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Terry Porritt
22-10-2004, 08:41 PM
HTOTW stands for Hot Tunes Of The Week.

Name as many tunes as you can think of that have Ain't or Tain't in the title.
Now there are some rules. The tunes must be from the 1920s/30s and be hot jazz or dance band music. NO modern stuff allowed, ie nothing after 1935 :)

Here is an example, Fats Wallers' Ain't Misbehavin'

Then we'll see how many of the suggested tunes I can find in streaming audio to listen to. If no one responds then there will be my list.

Laura
22-10-2004, 09:13 PM
How long have we got to reply before you do?
(And of course, you would remove the most obvious from everyone's list, huh)

Terry Porritt
22-10-2004, 09:18 PM
We can't make it too easy Laura, so lets say you have until sunday evening.

Laura
24-10-2004, 03:19 AM
Been woken in the small hours, so putting my list in early.

As you've started with Fats, Terry, there's also his: "T'Ain't Nobody's Business if I Do."
(Bessie Smith & Billie Holliday versions use "Ain't," I think)

Billie Holliday also did:" I Got it Bad & that Ain't Good,"
" You Ain't Gonna Bother Me no More,"
"Gee, Baby, Ain't I Good to You? (Recorded by Ella as well - plus her "T'Ain't What You Do, (It's the Way that You Do it)"

Bing Crosby/Paul Whiteman did "T'Ain't So, Honey, T'Ain't So." Don't know the date of Crosby's "Is You Is, Or Is You Ain't My Baby?"

"It Ain't Necessarily So" from Porgy & Bess just sneaks in at 1935.
And I don't know when "Ain't She Sweet?" first came out. Sinatra did it later.

Terry Porritt
24-10-2004, 07:59 PM
HTOTW stands for Hot Tunes Of the Week, this week the tunes have ain't or tain't in the title.

To hear the streaming audio, Real Player or Real Player Alternative is required. The very latest version of Real alternative can be downloaded here:

http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/1054136293/1

Thanks Laura for a fantastic selection of ain't tunes.

Let's start with Ain't Misbehavin', music composed by Fats waller and Harry Brooks with lyrics by Andy Razaf, in 1929.

On all the Fats recordings I've heard, from memory, he only plays the chorus, and doesn't include the verse.

It may be worth while digressing here as to what is meant by verse and chorus.
In those days the structure of songs tended to be along the lines of having a few bars introduction, giving a hint of the theme to come, then a verse which tells you what the song is about and tells some of the story, and then this leads into the familiar chorus or refrain in which everyone joins in.

In even older times the verses were extended, the chorus's short and simple for everyone to participate. Then verses tended to be left out, and songs were played as a succession of chorus's.

Dont ask me what happens with todays songs, I wouldn't have the faintest idea. :)

This brings me to my choice, one of my favourite recordings of this tune is the Jack Hylton version from 1929, with Sam Browne doing the vocal, and they play the verse which is seldom heard. First the band plays the chorus, then Sam Browne sings the verse followed by the chorus.

Ain't Misbehavin' (http://www.petefaint.co.uk/jackhylton/aintmisbehavin.ram)


Laura's choice of "Tain't Nobody's Biz-ness If I Do" is interesting, it was the first song recorded by Fats Waller in 1922.
Here is Bessie Smith (http://www.redhotjazz.com/songs/bessie/taint.ram) the greatest of the blues singers in 1923.

In 1923 of course, all recordings were made without electrical amplification, ie they were acoustic, and were recorded at nominally 78rpm. Singers and the quieter instruments were placed nearest to the horn collecting the sound, whilst louder instruments were placed further away. In Bessie Smiths case I reckon they had to stand her well back from the horn :)

I couldn't find all of Lauras' selection, but she chose one of my all time favourites, "Tain't So, Honey Tain't So".

Gee, what can I say about this? Bix Beiderbecke, Bing Crosby, Frankie Trumbauer, Bill Rank, and the rest of the Paul Whiteman gang.

Now many 'jazz purists' scorn Whiteman for not playing 'real jazz', and they cringe when they hear Whitemans' title 'The King of Jazz'.
Now he never set out to play 'real jazz', he played popular music to the masses, at dance halls, concerts, and on the radio.

However he did have some of the best and hottest white musicians of the day in his orchestra, and they were free to record as sub groups like Frank Trumbauer and His Orchestra.
Also many of the sides recorded as Paul Whiteman and his Orchestra were hot alright, there's no denying that, and when you compare what was played in those days to what passes as 'jazz' today, well, there is no comparison at all.


Ok, enough waffle, hold onto your seats and lets hear Bix n' Bing letting rip in 1928 with Tain't So, Honey Tain't So (http://www.redhotjazz.com/Songs/Whiteman/taintso.ram).


Another of Laura's selection, "Ain't She Sweet", gives me the excuse to have Annette Hanshaw my favourite female singer, with her 1927 recording, but she says Ain't He Sweet (http://www.redhotjazz.com/songs/hanshaw/ainthesweet.ram).


Let's get back to Paul Whiteman with Bing Crosby and The Rhythm Boys, Bix and Trumbauer in 1928 with There Ain't No Sweet Man That's Worth The Salt Of My Tears (http://www.redhotjazz.com/Songs/Whiteman/sweetsalttears.ram).


What about the great singer and entertainer Sophie Tucker? Let us hear her together with that fine trombonist Miff Mole, Jimmy Dorsey clarinet, Red Nichols cornet, Eddie Lang guitar, Vic Berton drums, Joe Tarto tuba and Ted Shapiro piano, all first class jazzmen, I Ain't Got Nobody (http://www.redhotjazz.com/Songs/mole/iaintgotnobody.ram)

Now to finish, Annette Hanshaw again from 1927, backed by Joe Venuti, violin, Eddie Lang, guitar, Adrian Rollini on 'hot fountainpen'( a tiny clarinet) and bass sax. Ain't That A Grand And Glorious Feeling (http://www.redhotjazz.com/songs/hanshaw/AintThatAGrandAndGloriousFeeling.ram). "That's All"

Laura
24-10-2004, 09:47 PM
Nice collection, Terry.

You told me stuff I didn't know.
Like- Fats was part-composer of Ain't Misbehaving.( So many people have recorded it, I didn't realise he was more than an early performer)

Thanks for the wonderful Bessie Smith, plus some more Annette Henshaw, whom I didn't know until a thread of yours a few months ago.

I'm a bit mortified I didn't remember I Ain't Got Nobody as a title, but even so, I wouldn't have associated it with Sophie Tucker - rather Billie or Ella - so good to remember the blues/jazz links there.

And of course my Porgy & Bess suggestion (which I heard/saw sung by Inia Te Wiata in a great production) doesn't fit your dance band/jazz category.

And having said all that, now comes the confession ... I can't listen to any of your choices now. Not only are my speakers out of commission, but my Real Player software has been removed because it stuffed up my system.
Fixing the speakers is simple. Not sure how long the software (for Win98SE) will take.I'll have to check out your Real Player Alternative on my fairly low-specs system.
I hope the links don't wear out..?

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Terry Porritt
25-10-2004, 09:12 AM
Thanks Laura, you must get Real Alternative installed as soon as possible :)

It will go ok on your setup. I just installed Real Alternative 1.28 which was released a few days ago, on my Win98SE Compaq SFF Deskpro, 500MHz PIII, 384MB ram, it goes a treat. You can also from View-Options-Formats select which formats you want it to be the default player for. It will pretty well play all common file formats including video.

Fats Waller was a supreme entertainer and prolific composer, a pity he died so early on in his career. He is exempt from my 1935 limit!

Here are some urls to him on the RedHot Jazz site, I dont know how life could go on without that site:

http://www.redhotjazz.com/rhythm.html

http://www.redhotjazz.com/rhythmorchestra.html

http://www.redhotjazz.com/buddies.html

http://www.redhotjazz.com/fats.html

http://www.redhotjazz.com/twmhb.html

Laura
27-10-2004, 01:30 AM
Thanks, Terry
I'll follow your advice as soon as circumstances let me.
Really looking forward to hearing the greats as they sang it...