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bk T
15-10-2004, 09:02 PM
I understand that XP doesn't support HDD larger than 137 GB (correct me if I am wrong); it requires a patch or SP1 to overcome this problem.

If the above is correct, how do I set up a new pc with a 200 GB HDD?

Cheers

Spacemannz
15-10-2004, 09:06 PM
Go here

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;303013

drb1
16-10-2004, 06:59 AM
Bkt,

I under stood it to be reversed,

However. With my 200 gb 8mb,b Seagate drives. I have all ways created 1 partition non active/active in F disk and formatted it fat 32 with out difficulties.

In the format you get wrong size messages but if you read the bytes formated size, at the end, all is well.

The upgraded version of fdisk specked to handell 64GB partitions is a little quicker.

once formatted xp does not SEEM to have problems with these drives.

Warning.

xp disk manager does not like WORKING with drives/partitions that big.

r/rw, scandisk, defrag, boot, not problem.

IMH experience.

D.

Spacemannz
16-10-2004, 09:29 AM
That depends how much of the hdd u formatted in FAT32. NOT much since FAT32 cant go beyond 32GB. When u format a hdd using 2k or XP.

Its better if u format in NTFS (in most cases), BUT since 98/ME cant read NTFS, obviously u cant use it on these OS'es. Without installing 3rd party programs.

And without some form of patch as in SP1, or a registry tweak, you'll never get the full 200 gb (or more) . Well you wont with FAT32 anyway. If u use 2k or XP.

Its better if u do a clean install with SP4 or SP2 and XP, and the info on the MS site added to the CD. (then it'll all get added once u do the clean install and well u can partition the drive in XP's setup.

Chilling_Silence
16-10-2004, 09:33 AM
> That depends how much of the hdd u formatted in
> FAT32. NOT much since FAT32 cant go beyond 32GB.
> When u format a hdd using 2k or XP.
Errr... Since when? Ive got a 95gb partition (Fat32) on my external HDD.....

> And without some form of patch as in SP1, or a
> registry tweak, you'll never get the full 200 gb (or
> more) . Well you wont with FAT32 anyway. If u use 2k
> or XP.
The limit is something like 4 terrabytes IIRC for a Fat32 partition?!?! Obviously Win98 may have some difficulties reading it.... ;-)

Chilling_Silence
16-10-2004, 09:34 AM
Google turns up:
http://www.iamnotageek.com/a/24-p1.php

Spacemannz
16-10-2004, 09:39 AM
Well thats what the ms site says. Obviously its wrong.

Chilling_Silence
16-10-2004, 09:43 AM
Well, you're half correct. If the partition is over 32GB, during installation of XP/2K it simply wont give you the option of Fat32 :-)

Terry Porritt
16-10-2004, 10:57 AM
It is quite odd really that formatting using XP limits a FAT32 partition to 32GB, but in Win98SE say, with the fdisk large drive patch you can go up to 137GB, and that also if you format a large FAT32 outside of XP, then you can use it within XP.

Now there are 3 relevant Microsoft kb articles that explain this, sometimes they are quoted out of context, and that's why there are misleading statements such as FAT32 is limited to 32GB.

kb263044 (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=263044), this is the fdisk patch for Win98, large drives.

kb263045 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/263045/EN-US/), this is about format reporting the wrong parition size at the beginning of the format process.

kb314463 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314463/EN-US/), this explains the limitations of the FAT32 file system in XP, and the max. partition size of 32GB formatted within XP.

There is a similar kb for Win2k and is referenced in there.

drb1
16-10-2004, 11:03 AM
Space,

I did not come here to argue.

please Explain how I have 197 GB inf on a drive only 32 GB formatted x 2?

Do not Fall into the M/S NTFS trap, If you wish your data to remain compatiable/available to other O/S.

D.

Spacemannz
16-10-2004, 11:43 AM
Well dont answer then :D

drb1
16-10-2004, 12:11 PM
Spaceman,


No you CANT Explian. Can you?

D.

Spacemannz
16-10-2004, 12:19 PM
Well as i said thats what the MS site NOT me. So as I also said thats wrong, since thats where I got the info from.

Terry Porritt
16-10-2004, 12:36 PM
Come on you two, just read the MS link I posted about FAT32 in XP, then your differences will be resolved :)

Spacemannz
16-10-2004, 12:38 PM
LOL I reckon. I HAVE better things to talk about. Its not the end of the world.

Altho I dont use FAT32 on either of these PC's. So, don't really care what it does.

drb1
16-10-2004, 12:39 PM
Space,

I said.

However. With my 200 gb 8mb,b Seagate drives. I have all ways created 1 partition non active/active in F disk and formatted it fat 32 with out difficulties.

Note I said F DISK.

You then said.

That depends how much of the hdd u formatted in FAT32. NOT much since FAT32 cant go beyond 32GB. When u format a hdd using 2k or XP.

So I ask you to explain. you cant, fine.

Not a problem, untill you post this.

Well dont answer then .


Now It is all Microsofts fault, you did not read what I said.

How do you explain that piece of reasoning?

D.

Spacemannz
16-10-2004, 12:44 PM
Give it up drb .. Not wasting my time answering somneone who thinks they know better.

drb1
16-10-2004, 12:49 PM
> Give it up drb .. Not wasting my time answering
> somneone who thinks they know better.
>


Not a bad bluster,

From someone spurting M/S without personal use Experience.

And Contradicting, long know FACT, in the process.

D.

Spacemannz
16-10-2004, 12:58 PM
whatever makes u happy I do use it actually

drb1
16-10-2004, 01:55 PM
> whatever makes u happy I do use it actually

If you had the level of experience you claim to have, you would not make such errors in the first place, and then try to save face with bluster.

D.

Graham L
16-10-2004, 02:10 PM
Hey kids, knock it off. Save it for next week and playtime at school. ;-)

Pheonix
16-10-2004, 02:13 PM
I second that Graham L :)

Spacemannz
16-10-2004, 02:22 PM
Yer go and play with ya toys dr