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10-10-2004, 09:42 AM
What is the last version of Windows to run as a GUI please



10-10-2004, 09:47 AM
You mean a version of Windows with MSDOS??

98/98SE/ME/2000 has DOS. XP does but its not that great. BUT still works

Terry Porritt
10-10-2004, 10:26 AM
MS Windows is a Graphical User Interface..GUI.

Just a slight correction to spacemannz Win 2000 doesn't have MSDOS as neither does NT or XP, and in ME Microsoft tried hard to hide MSDOS.

Now Windows 1 and 2 were virtually just DOS programs, it was not until Windows 3, that you could say "Windows" had arrived.

The last MSDOS with Windows 3.x was version 6.22, then with Windows 95 MSDOS was version 7.

Even with Win95, Microsoft were pretending during and before it's release that it didnt need DOS, and/or that DOS wasn't there. That was just MS hype :)

10-10-2004, 10:29 AM
win 95/98/98se all have dos easy enough. winME has it but its hidden. NT as far as i know dosn't, w2k i'm not to sure of as its not dos based at all but it may have emulation. XP has dos emulation, not all dos programs will work with it.

10-10-2004, 10:40 AM
I know XP doesnt have DOS u can boot into. BUT u can use DOS after u boot into XP.

10-10-2004, 10:54 AM
> I know XP doesnt have DOS u can boot into. BUT u can
> use DOS after u boot into XP.

No. You can olny use the emulator, cmd.exe

10-10-2004, 11:03 AM
well whatever its called it still lets u type in whatever!

Terry Porritt
10-10-2004, 11:08 AM
Actually Spacemannz is more correct than ugh :)

There is a dos 16 bit command.com in XP, it runs as a window in XP, whereas cmd.exe is the 32 bit command line program.
The 16 command.com is intended for running old 16 bit dos programs, it is actually the command.com version from Win ME.

Command.com is in C:\windows\system32, if you make a shortcut to it on your desktop it has the MSDOS icon.

11-10-2004, 09:41 AM
The last Windows with true Dos was 98SE.
Open Windows Explorer, select 'msdos.sys' & right click go to properties and untick 'read only' & 'hidden'.
Load 'msdos.sys' into Notepad.
Look for the line 'GUI = 1' & change the 1 to 0.
Save the file.
Select it with Windows Explorer and tick 'read only' & 'hidden'.
Now when you boot Windows you will have a Dos screen with C:> at the cursor. You may have to open 'autoexec.bat' and install the mouse.
I think the mouse is in 'Windows\command' but if not just install a simple mouse driver.
To load Windows just type C:>win
You can install a Dos Menu or make a Bat file, & keep all your Dos tools on it.

11-10-2004, 08:01 PM
Thanks to one & all for the edifying responses.


11-10-2004, 10:21 PM
Windows 1 and 2 are DOS programs.

Windows 3 is a 16-bit Windows that runs on DOS.

Windows 9x and ME are also DOS based, but 32-bit. MS tries to hide DOS in Windows ME but it is there.

Windows NT, 2000, and XP are NOT in any way DOS based, but can run DOS programs in CMD.EXE, the command line program. It can also emulate 16-bit DOS for DOS games etc.

You can also run COMMAND.COM which is DOS itself, 16-bit.

You can multiboot NT/2000/XP and DOS as well.


11-10-2004, 11:17 PM
> The last Windows with true Dos was 98SE.
Actually it was Win ME but MS thought out of site was out of mind.