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ApeNz
26-09-2004, 09:40 PM
Hi

Im about to upgrade my AMD XP 2800 , ATI 9200 graphics from 512 megs to 768 megs - i have heard people say that unless your computer needs the extra ram their is a little preformance boast - what can i expect from 256 megs more ram

the highlander
26-09-2004, 10:55 PM
You can never have too much ram. 512 megs is fairly average nowadays. You are unlikely to notice any real performance boost in everyday apps but you will if you are using mem intensive apps such as photoshop, 3d rendering programs such as max and lightwave and of course gaming.
A decent graphics card might be a better upgrade.

Pete O\'Neil
27-09-2004, 08:26 AM
You really need to tell us what you use the PC for before we can tell you whether it will be a worthwhile upgrade.

ApeNz
27-09-2004, 01:16 PM
I use the computer for mainly gaming Doom III etc , i intend to put half life two one it so i decieded to get a upgrade of some kind.

ApeNz
27-09-2004, 01:17 PM
What would you call a decent graphics card ?

metla
27-09-2004, 01:23 PM
a 9800pro

Or one of the new GT series from Nvidia if you have plenty of dosh.

Pete O\'Neil
27-09-2004, 01:23 PM
If you want to play DOOM3 and HLF2 then you really really need to consider upgrading your video card. At the very least consider a FX5900 or 9800PRO, if you can scrap together some more cash a 6800GT would be a very good purchase. The 6800GT would last alot longer but also costs alot more.

What motherboard do you have? It might be a good idea to increase the RAM to 1gb, if you have a nForce2 motherboard this would then enable dual channel memory and offer a small preformance gain. If your going to upgrade the ram dont bother with 256 make the jump to 512mb, but if thats all the budget will allow then so be it. DOOM3 really likes 1gb of RAM, and i suspect HLF2 will be the same.

ApeNz
27-09-2004, 01:31 PM
yeah i got a n force 2 mobo - what is so good about duel channel. 1 gig of ram does sound nice but my graphics card does need a upgrade - what you think of the Radeon 9600 its better then what i got - Which runs Doom III quite well i might well ( I think thats my CPU )

ApeNz
27-09-2004, 01:43 PM
which will you consider better 256 more ram or a 9600 graphics ( i think thats all i can afford at the momment )

Pete O\'Neil
27-09-2004, 01:47 PM
I'd get the 9600 over 256mb RAM, if you think a 9200 runs DOOM3 well then you'll think your in heaven when you play it on a 9600. Dont expect to get more than a few months from a 9600, they are already considered entry level in terms of gaming. Your better off saving your money up for a lil longer and buying better video card. By then the X700XT and 6600GT should be avaliable, both will offer 9800PRO preformance at around $300ish. Personally i think upgrading from a 9200 to 9600 is a waste of money.

ApeNz
27-09-2004, 01:51 PM
Are the system requirments of Half Life Two equal or higher then those of Doom III

metla
27-09-2004, 02:00 PM
Both games will require the best hardware your prepared to purchase.

If that makes any sence.

Pete O\'Neil
27-09-2004, 02:00 PM
> Are the system requirments of Half Life Two equal or
> higher then those of Doom III
Both games use completely new game engines, and both are completly different. DOOM3 uses openGL where as HLF2 uses DX9.0. But yes in a nutshell HLF2 is as demanding as DOOM3

metla
27-09-2004, 02:01 PM
>>By then the X700XT and 6600GT should be avaliable, both will offer 9800PRO preformance at around $300ish

My bet is they appear for around $400 to $450.

alphazulusixeightniner
27-09-2004, 02:09 PM
On the other hand Doom3 likes to use a good Gb+ of RAM, so you might benefit from a RAM upgrade and a video card upgrade. 512mb RAM doesn't go far in Doom 3, you get a bit of stuttering at the beginning of levels because it's using the swap file, but it generally sorts itself out.

ApeNz
27-09-2004, 02:17 PM
The technology just keeps changing - can't keep up with it

Pete O\'Neil
27-09-2004, 02:41 PM
> On the other hand Doom3 likes to use a good Gb+ of
> RAM, so you might benefit from a RAM upgrade and a
> video card upgrade. 512mb RAM doesn't go far in Doom
> 3, you get a bit of stuttering at the beginning of
> levels because it's using the swap file, but it
> generally sorts itself out.
If you had read the thread carefully you would have seen that Apenz said he cant afford both ram and a video card upgrade.

ApeNz
27-09-2004, 03:17 PM
what pete said

Pete O\'Neil
27-09-2004, 03:37 PM
Apenz if i was you i'd grab another 512mb of RAM, preferably the same brand and speed etc. This will enable dual channel and along with the benefit of extra ram you'll get the small benefit of dual channel.

Then wait another 3 months and save your pennies and wait for the video card market to settle. Then buy whatever is the new mid range card, probably the X700 or 6600. These will have preformance similar to the 9800 and should be good bang for your buck.

By this time we should see games based on the Doom3 and HLF2 engines, making a high end system more of a necesity. A X700 or 6600 should offer resonable preformance without breaking the bank. This should also mean that you wont have to upgrade anytime soon as the next "big" game engine should be a long way off.

ApeNz
27-09-2004, 04:35 PM
Thanks for that Pete , i think i will do that - get my computer up to speed with the new games that are coming out at this time