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Lizard
26-09-2004, 12:19 PM
I know some people might get sick of a thread like this - if you're like that, look away now..

For the others, come on everyone, help me build my next computer! :)

I have a budget of $900
I'm performing an upgrade/replacement of core components
It will be used mainly for FPS LAN gaming (head to head mostly), Internet, dvd movie watching, and MP3s...
I'm looking at AMD for the processor...
Components needed:
CPU
MoBo
RAM
Hard Drive
Graphics card
Sound Card

Recommendations on spec arrangements, prices, stores?

Cheers
Lizard

Patrick 2003
26-09-2004, 01:43 PM
hey there, im thinking for 1000 bucks you should easily get a amd 2800xp,512mb ram,120 gb HDD, a good mobo and a average graphics card, most of you cash will go into the graphics card if you want a decent one,AGP or PCI-e? for AGP and FPS im thinking a Radeon 9800XT 256mb ?? if you can wait a while you can get a card that has 512mb and that will play doom 3 maxed out in its graphical settings.im not too sure on which brands are the best for components but be sure you do get a brand that is well known because they are mostly likely better quality and last longer, be sure to check out pricespy.co.nz for the cheapest and latest prices in nz.
HTH :D
patrick

alphazulusixeightniner
26-09-2004, 01:47 PM
You'd be pushing it for under $1000. What sort of games would you be wanting to play? A system well under 1Ghz can use the internet, watch DVDs and play MP3s, the games you want to play will be the deciding factor.

You're probably looking at an Athlon XP system for that price and you wouldn't be able to factor in many of the best graphics cards on that budget, but you could get something reasonable.

More info? :)

Pete O\'Neil
26-09-2004, 02:24 PM
Its a stupid idea to buy a 9800XT its one of the worst bang for your buck cards. They're still retailing for around $600, you better off considering a 9800PRO but for $1000 its highly unlikely you'll be able to fit it into your budget. Its getting harder to source AthlonXP's now that the Sempron has been released so you can probably scratch the 2800+ idea.

Your going to have to increase your budget unless all you want to play is Quake3.

dirtbag
26-09-2004, 02:49 PM
If your making your own computer:

2600xp (150 dollars approx)
512mb ram (130 dollars approx)
150 dollars on mobo
radeon 9200 (100 dollars approx)
120gb (140 dollars approx)
670 dollars, plus mayb 200 dollars for monitor and 130 or so for case.

under 1000, i have a friend running this setup, runs doom 3, farcry etc. fine. I kid you not, he runs that exact setup, i think he has a gigabyte motherboard. It runs farcry 1024x768 with details at reasonble levels. Doom 3 is easily playable at 800x600. You say you're a lan FPS, would this mean CS and BF1492 etc? This computer would run them sweet.
I am running a 1.3Ghz pentium 4, 384mb RD ram, geforce mx400 32mb 120gb HD and it runs farcry, bf1942, nfsu, nfshp2, cod all fine.

You dont need to spend much anymore to get a decent machine
You could always go with bigger HD if you wanted the extra space for leeching etc @ lans

dirtbag
26-09-2004, 02:51 PM
Oh yea by the way, for soundcard just get a mobo with inbuilt sound, they work fine unless you are wanting special features that only certain soundcards have

Patrick 2003
26-09-2004, 03:04 PM
> radeon 9200 (100 dollars approx)

dont be silly, the minimum you wanna go for desent graphics is a Radeon 9600.

Lizard
26-09-2004, 05:09 PM
Thanks for the comments, guys
Won't be needing monitor/case - am using those from present system (already upgraded in anticiaption of this upgrade...)
Dirtbag - I was thinking along those lines myself, except perhaps a 160gb SATA HDD. As for gfx, I've been looking at the ATI 9600XT 128MB.
There are plenty who will dismiss any attempt to play FPS on anything less than the best. Personally, I've squeezed pretty satisying FPS games out of my Athlon 500 (original Slot 1 Processor), so even an AMD 2600 or 2800 Xp processor will be a paradigm jump in terms of performance. Games like Doom 3 I'm not expecting to run at 1024x768 at max settings and achieve 60fps on the kind of system I'm planning, but so long as it runs and looks better than the original doom, I'd be happy.

How do the Semprons comapre with the existing XP range? It's looking like the XPs are fading away, so a Sempron may be the only option soon (won't be getting a Duron)
I'm happy with onboard sound, can always change that later.
Gfx is kind of important, but can't really blow more than $300.
Also, stores to buy from. Would prefer to buy in one place. Currently in PN, but making a trip to Auckland soon, so any suggestions?
Cheers,
Lizard

Lizard
26-09-2004, 05:10 PM
PCI-express is probably out of my range, but haven't seen any motherboards in NZ that have it yet. Have heard about the gfx cards, but not the mobos? Any one else heard of one?

metla
26-09-2004, 05:31 PM
>>Also, stores to buy from. Would prefer to buy in one place. Currently in PN

I would suggest asking Computer Medic in Wanganui for a quote,but thats me,and if i done so it would be using the forum to promote my company so i won't bother to mention it.

alphazulusixeightniner
26-09-2004, 05:40 PM
:^O

Elephant
26-09-2004, 05:51 PM
>
> > radeon 9200 (100 dollars approx)
>
> dont be silly, the minimum you wanna go for desent
> graphics is a Radeon 9600.

Why not something like this:-
Powercolor ATI X800Pro 256MB 256bit DDR3 $887.63 incl GST.

I do realise that there won't be a lot of budget left over for minor other hardware like Motherboard, CPU and ram and hard drives and sound etc.

I also realise that you may shop around for better prices. I haven't as I don't need one right now.

Elephant
26-09-2004, 06:04 PM
> >>Also, stores to buy from. Would prefer to buy in
> one place. Currently in PN
>
> I would suggest asking Computer Medic in Wanganui for
> a quote,but thats me,and if i done so it would be
> using the forum to promote my company so i won't
> bother to mention it.

Palmerston North is not a long way from Wanganui is it?

My advice is to shop local. If there is any reason why you don't trust or like a local PN supplier then Wanganui or Wellington seem to be your best bets. Appromately equidistance by road as I remember it.

Pete O\'Neil
26-09-2004, 06:15 PM
>How do the Semprons comapre with the existing XP range? It's looking like the XPs are fading away, so a Sempron may be the only option soon (won't be getting a Duron)
Sempron is the new Duron, luckily though the Sempron isnt as bad as the Duron. The sempron has 256k Lvl2 cache and 266MHz FSB, the PR ratings have also been adjusted.

If you could stretch the GFX budget a lil further a FX5900XT would be a good choice. Its faster than a 9600XT but slower than a 9800PRO.

There are heaps of reputable places to buy your parts from, do you need the machine assembled for you? Or will you do it yourself? A few of my favourites are StylesPC and Ascent.

If you want people to help you with your choice of componets you are going to have to provide my infomation. WHAT GAMES DO YOU WANT TO PLAY? Perhaps consider a smaller harddrive so that you can invest the money saved into better hardware? Do you want to overclock your system?

Assuming your not into overclocking you should consider a system similar to this:

AthlonXP 2600+ $188.78
Gigabyte GA-7VT600-P $127.13
512mb Kingmax DDR400 $179.25
Seagate 80Gb SATA $136.47
Gigabyte FX5900XT $395.64

Total: $1028.27*
All prices taken from Ascent

As you can see you dont get alot for $1000, if you want the best bang for buck in terms of gaming a better graphics card is a wiser choice compared to a faster CPU. Some mug is probably gonna come along and say get the 2800+ over the 2600+ you cant afford it. Before you even consider a better CPU get more ram. RAM and Graphics will affect game preformance far more than CPU speed. You cant afford a 160Gb drive, you can only just afford a 80gb drive.

I chose the Gigabyte KT600 board assuming you dont want to overclock as its cheaper than a nForce2 board and has superior SATA support. Kingmax probably isnt the cheapest RAM avaliable but its also a better brand. You can save money and buy cheap ram but you will regret it later. The FX5900XT offer 30-40% more preformance compared to a 9600XT, and your going to need if extra bit of preformance with DOOM3 now avaliable and HLF2 just around the corner.

Pete O\'Neil
26-09-2004, 06:18 PM
> Why not something like this:-
> Powercolor ATI X800Pro 256MB 256bit DDR3 $887.63 incl
> GST.
OMG Elephant, that advice is nearly as bad as suggesting a 9200 for gaming. The guys only got $1000 to spend. Blowing $800+ on a video means at best hes got $200 to spend on CPU, MOBO, RAM, and HDD. If you can find a AMD system capable of playing modern games with the above parts for $200 then i'll personally drive to where ever you live and give you a big gold star.

A Slot 1 Athlon 500MHz with a X800 would probably preform worse than a 1800+ and a MX440.

alphazulusixeightniner
26-09-2004, 07:38 PM
I thought Elephant was joking? :^O

Patrick 2003
26-09-2004, 07:49 PM
> OMG Elephant, that advice is nearly as bad as
> suggesting a 9200 for gaming.
:D harsh but true

The guys only got $1000
> to spend. Blowing $800+ on a video means at best hes
> got $200 to spend on CPU, MOBO, RAM, and HDD.
why buy brand new graphics card there are sometimes ok deals on trademe, sometimes brand new too, but be sure to check pricespy
>
> A Slot 1 Athlon 500MHz with a X800 would probably
> preform worse than a 1800+ and a MX440.

mind you ive seen on the net a celery 333 with a radeon 9800 :D