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icyred
29-08-2004, 03:39 PM
Some time recently I read about the average lifespan of an un-firewalled PC being 20 minutes on the net before it got infected or attacked-now I want to refer to this for my assignment, I canít find where I saw it-has anybody else seen this, and if so, where was it ? Also, while I'm at it, did anybody else see the news item where it was recommended by some large American agency (can't remember who) not to use IE at all due to security risks-also would like this for assignment, but as above, can't remember where it was.

Cheers

icy

stu120404
29-08-2004, 03:45 PM
Hello icyred

I think I have these thing book marked, I will do some digging in a wee while & post the links to those thing.

Spacemannz
29-08-2004, 03:57 PM
Well its true if u have XP, and no patches for worms like blaster, or sasser, or for any of the vulnerabilities for XP. If you're patched, you'll last longer.

merlin-nz
29-08-2004, 04:59 PM
i people,

I beg to differ here, I have Win ME for three years no updates no sp's no firewall, ok I did have AVG, Spybot S&D and ad-Aware.

In that time I had no viruses some spam but hey you can't have every thing.

I have now got win XP Pro same thing, no updates no sp's no firewall and only one (1) virus in twelve months.

I don't use IE or Outlook Express (only if it is very nessary) I run Opera only on the internet.

Thats my 2,5 or 10 cents worth.



cheers merlin-nz ;-)

tweak\'e
29-08-2004, 05:34 PM
merlin-nz.......you have a firewall running. either windows or router, which is the only thing stopping you from being infected withen minutes (going by the amount of worms trying to connect to me at the mo).

no offence anyone but often those who claim to be never infected often are infected, they just don't know it and happly trying to infect the rest of us :( however i have come accross a few who don't get infected simply because they are very rarly ever on the net, don't go to any "fun" sites, don't have kids useing the pc, practise safe email and are on dailup.

drcspy
29-08-2004, 05:50 PM
yeh I cannot believe that xp without a firewall would last more than hour..........I stupidly put my newly built xp pc online lol without the firewall and it took about 30 seconds to catch netsky - or was it blaster ? anyway it was FAST

WalOne
29-08-2004, 06:06 PM
The most recent reference I recall was in a mailer from Nick Bolton - Mailwasher. I didn't keep the email but try Mailwasher Click here (http://www.firetrust.com/support/)

Cheers

drb1
29-08-2004, 06:10 PM
> Some time recently I read about the average lifespan
> of an un-firewalled PC being 20 minutes on the net
> before it got infected or attacked-now I want to
> refer to this for my assignment, I canít find where I
> saw it-has anybody else seen this, and if so, where
> was it ? Also, while I'm at it, did anybody else see
> the news item where it was recommended by some large
> American agency (can't remember who) not to use IE at
> all due to security risks-also would like this for
> assignment, but as above, can't remember where it
> was.
>
> Cheers
>
> icy

Came out of the "U.S. Dept of Defence" Close to the one about wheather you could really "afford" to use I.E .

Possibly "Mandrake" in their news posts. Was A genuine Art gave: names, quotes, and Admin possitions.

Search: Mandrake, Google, U.S. D.O.D. Should come up, if it doesent, post and I will see if I kept a copy.

stiven
29-08-2004, 06:32 PM
Try here (http://news.com.com/Study%3A+Unpatched+PCs+compromised+in+20+minutes/2100-7349_3-5313402.html?tag=nefd.top)

dwnz2003
29-08-2004, 06:35 PM
I have a fully patched web server. How at risk is it if it only has port 80 open to the internet?

Cheers
Daniel

dwnz2003
29-08-2004, 06:37 PM
O sorry, it is running windows 2000 advanced server

tedheath
29-08-2004, 06:42 PM
My neigbour has a p1 166 with w95 been running since 1998. No antivirus or internet security or anti bot software.
Mainly used for surfing and downloading porn and its still running sweet.


tedheath

Spacemannz
29-08-2004, 06:51 PM
most probably coz its so old nothing would hit it. Sasser or some variants will run on 95 BUT not infect it. As it hasnt got the right files to be infected with.

And blaster doesnt affect 95/98 either. Only NT systems.

mark.p
29-08-2004, 07:07 PM
> most probably coz its so old nothing would hit it.
> Sasser or some variants will run on 95 BUT not infect
> it. As it hasnt got the right files to be infected
> with.
>
> And blaster doesnt affect 95/98 either. Only NT
> systems.
>
>
>

Or ME. The exact reason I use OS/2, Linux or Win98(first edition) when using the internet. Who said newer was better?( awaits replies with glee ;)

Spacemannz
29-08-2004, 07:33 PM
Well I guess it depends on, whether u want to keep up with the times.

And whether you want to use a later version of Windows or not. Its only people who cant be bothered patching / updating XP, or NT systems, why they'll get worms like Sasser or Blaster. They've only got themselves to blame.

There's been enough coverage of what can and will happen if you dont
update when an update comes out.

tweak\'e
29-08-2004, 07:35 PM
while blaster and sasser only effect 2k/xp systems variants of it can hide in 9x/me systems (not sure about unix tho) and infect others from that pc. as per normal people are more worried about being affected by virus and are less concerned with being infected and certain not worried about infecting others. :(

mark.p
29-08-2004, 08:14 PM
NT4, NT4 server variants are also affected btw.

theother1
29-08-2004, 08:14 PM
So right about people not believing they are infected. Have some friends who "knew they wouldn't have any infections". I ran AVG free on the laptop which was only used for email. 148 infections. They now run AV software.

mark.p
29-08-2004, 08:21 PM
Did the same last weekend on a freind of a freinds ME box. Install AVG, Firefox , Kario and a few other goodies. Some folk just have no idea at all-got 2 doz bevys for it ;). OS updates aren't a pancia either, especailly NT based MS Windows. Hope MS learn a lesson for their next incarnation. But it will be a long wait till we find out......