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Megaman
05-06-2004, 02:10 PM
Hi all. I just got the full version of Alcohol 120%, and am having a few problems making images. The CD-ROm drive spint up at full speed, then slows to a crawl, giving "disk read errors". This is a 52x Cyclone Computers OEM drive. The disks run fine if playing the games off the physical drive, but my favourites take a long time to load, and I have H/D space to burn. I haven't tested the copying, because I don't have a CD-RW drive (but will soon). What could be the matter? The disks are clean, so should I just give the drive a clean with a cleaning disk?

Pheonix
05-06-2004, 02:14 PM
Chances are it has copy protection. Maybe check with a program called ClonyXXL

Megaman
05-06-2004, 02:46 PM
apparently it has safedisk 1.14.001- and alcohol says it can do lazerlock, secuROM, safedisk and safedisk2

Megaman
05-06-2004, 02:47 PM
the disk, by the way is SimCity 3000 (yes it's old, but it's still good ;))

Pheonix
05-06-2004, 02:56 PM
Now look for a program called Alcoholer , which reads the settings from ClonyXXL and puts them into Alcohol 120% so it can correct for the protection.
http://www.softpedia.com/public/cat/3/7/3-7-53.shtml

Megaman
05-06-2004, 03:20 PM
1. Where do I get an english version on ClonyXXL? (I was using A-RAY scanner before)

2. Where do I download Alcoholer? I found I place, which had it in .RAR format >_>

metla
05-06-2004, 03:39 PM
If u want to send me an email ill mail u an english version....of clonyxxl that is.

Big John
05-06-2004, 03:42 PM
It is the copy protection and will take some time to go through the errors as the drive slow to try and make sense of them. It should finish okay though.
As for re-burning them and getting them to work again on a CD-R or CD-RW you might be a bit disappointed in the results. Some drives can write the errors back and some cant. Not sure if Alcohol can even write the errors back. I know it can by-pass them when running the files from the images made though. CloneCD used to be good for making backups but again you need a drive to be able to read/write the data for the copy protection.
Do a search on the net for copy protection and have a look through some of the articles if you are more interested.

kiki
05-06-2004, 04:03 PM
With safedisk protections you should have the fast error skip feature turned on. With safedisk they fill the first part of the cd with 1000's of errors to fool copy protection software. Fast error skip, goes through them really quick and continues with the more important stuff.

Chilling_Silence
05-06-2004, 05:09 PM
ClonyXXL is both English and German

Click on the Button that says "Optionen/Tools" and choose English!

If I were you I would right-click on the little A Icon in your Systray and enable Emulation for at least the upper three options under "Emulation" :-)


Chill.

ilikelinux
05-06-2004, 05:19 PM
in the alcohol settings, (somewhere) you need to tick fast skip error blocks.

Chilling_Silence
05-06-2004, 06:01 PM
> in the alcohol settings, (somewhere) you need to tick
> fast skip error blocks.


Kiki has already mentioned this, and it is done on the first screen when you click "Copy Wizard" or "Image Making Wizard" :-)

Megaman
05-06-2004, 06:04 PM
checked it, and giving errors faster. good ;)

@ilikelinux, yes I have installed the thing you uploaded for me (had to system restore to get drives back into "my computer")

ilikelinux
05-06-2004, 09:10 PM
>@ilikelinux, yes I have installed the thing you uploaded for me (had to system restore to get drives back into "my computer")

;)

Megaman
06-06-2004, 11:57 AM
it's been 3 hours, it's reported 8139 error blocks (out of 319559 blocks) and i'm annoyed. Is it supposed to take this long?

ilikelinux
06-06-2004, 12:15 PM
some times on cdrom drives that dont support fast error block skipping, it may take ages.

Megaman
06-06-2004, 01:26 PM
> some times on cdrom drives that dont support fast
> error block skipping, it may take ages.

stupid bloody budget computer...

ilikelinux
06-06-2004, 01:40 PM
>stupid bloody budget computer...

LOL!
When i used to use my dvd rom drive for making images, it took AGES, then i tried my cd burner, and it flu like a jet!

Note: both dvd rom and cd burner are Samsung.

Megaman
06-06-2004, 01:51 PM
> >stupid bloody budget computer...
>
> LOL!
> When i used to use my dvd rom drive for making
> images, it took AGES, then i tried my cd burner, and
> it flu like a jet!
>
> Note: both dvd rom and cd burner are Samsung.

My drive cost about $20...

ilikelinux
06-06-2004, 01:52 PM
ouch! what do you expect for that much money?