View Full Version : Sick of the updates (messenger).

22-04-2004, 10:52 AM
I don't have my messenger on all the time but I turned it on a few weeks ago only to have the nag about a new version. So I downloaded it, took ages and by the time it downloaded I was doing something else so didn't get to see if my friend in Italy was online.
So I finish browsing this morning, and think I'll check again to see if I can catch my friend online as I have a little time only to be nagged again and this time its forcing me to download another version before I proceed. Again I see its going to take ages to download (dial up) and by the time it downloads I'm going to have to do other things. I find this very frustrating and just discourages me from bothering with messenger but its the only contact I have with my overseas friend. Grrrrrrr...........

22-04-2004, 11:24 AM
Try aMsn.

Its natively a Linux app, but has been ported to Doze. Its great.. No advertising, and you cant beat the Hybrid sorting mode...


Greg S
22-04-2004, 11:54 AM
Try ICQ lite

22-04-2004, 12:01 PM
or use trillian or miranda which can handle most chat protocols all at the smae time. (saves running mulitable programs to chat to all your mates)

22-04-2004, 02:44 PM
Gaim is nice too if you're going Multi-protocol....


Greg S
22-04-2004, 02:50 PM
I don't have any use for any of the multi-protocol chat apps, but am curious to know how nice/lousy their gui's are?

22-04-2004, 04:10 PM
> I don't have any use for any of the multi-protocol chat apps, but am curious to know how nice/lousy their gui's are?

Trillian is the nicest. Not too keen on the default skin but with the range of skins available it beats all the other IM programs hands down. ;-)

22-04-2004, 04:21 PM
Gaim has a solid interface, and the Emoticons are pretty basic but can be changed :-)

Kopete looks nice with Kde's Keramik theme... :D

I didnt like how Trillian stored the contacts locally.. When I last used it I had mates add me on MSN and they were only on my Trillian buddy list.
Does it still do that?


22-04-2004, 06:47 PM
Thanks, think I'll give Trillian a try and uninstall messenger.

22-04-2004, 06:53 PM
I'm getting fed up with the updates too. I have recently downloaded the latest one and it has crashed a few times, made my system unstable forcing me to reboot twice and now it takes about 10secs to send each blimin message. Useless!

27-04-2004, 12:01 PM
So I checked out some of the alternatives and decided to just update messenger after all. (Trillion does not support chat via headset and various reasons for the others). So I go to use it again today and it prompts me to download yet another version. I'm guessing the version I downloaded last week never worked for some reason. Guess I better have another look at the alternatives cos I'm fed up with msn messenger yet again!

27-04-2004, 12:08 PM
I haven't had the message to update messenger (windows or msn) for quite some time. I looked and can't find an option not to check for updated versions, my current versions are 6.1.0211 msn messenger or 4.7.2009 windows messenger.

27-04-2004, 12:16 PM
We've just had to update all MSN Versions in our shop, otherwise it wont let our customers sign in :-(

So what's so grand about MSN 6.2? There's a guy with a big aff' on the website (messenger.xtramsn.co.nz), and they try and infect the work PC's with more poison, but I see little differences otherwise?!

Man Im glad I use aMsn today... ;-)


27-04-2004, 12:19 PM
If you find another messenger program that you like to disable Windows Messenger with this little script.


Rob ;\

27-04-2004, 12:32 PM
Just uninstalled it. Its gone!!! Sick of the damn thing! Will look for an alternative when I have time.

27-04-2004, 04:00 PM
Install WinXP SP2, it'll let you stop it from loading at startup.. Then simply disable it in Outlook Express (Again, get a better email client).

If you're not happy with MSN, then try aMsn:

Origionally a Linux app, its been ported to Windows. Dont forget to grab imagemagick so you can have the User pic's too :-)


27-04-2004, 05:05 PM
So far this is what Ive noticed is different:
Contacts with a Mobile Device now show as Yellow
When writing a message, if you type an emote hotkey such as ( H ), it automatically changes it to the graphic rather than waiting for you to send the message

Anybody noticed anything else?

27-04-2004, 09:28 PM
Apparently it doesnt have a character limit (i only know of the linux app)

27-04-2004, 09:51 PM
> If you're not happy with MSN, then try aMsn:
> http://amsn.sf.net

Do you know if it's possible using aMSN for Windows to specify the connecting port?

By default MSN uses 1863, apparently it used to be able to fail-over to 80 however I am yet to be able to get it out of the rather draconian firewall at work.

27-04-2004, 10:00 PM
I think microsoft are getting too cocky... expecting everyone to download their huge exe just so we can use use their crappy commercialised messenger... expecting everyone to be on broadband...

I say suck my d**k MS... I'm going to aMSN.

And as soon as I get the backing, I will start a better network than MSN, start a better OS than Windows so everyopne can be at peace and get the most out of their pooters...

Your days are numbered microsoft....

28-04-2004, 11:24 AM
Yes, it allows you to run it over port 80 :-) Download it and try it, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how good it really is! No more ads should be reason enough ;-)

Jabber.org has all the info you need :-)

28-04-2004, 01:37 PM
Here's just to clarify what you'll need for aMsn:

This is the basis of aMSN. This is really the only package you actually need

If you want the pics (User Pics... Emoticons work regardless) then you'll need ImageMagick:

Enjoy :-)


29-04-2004, 11:38 PM
That don't work and I find their website confusing and I don't know what to download, theres all this Tarball stuff and installers stuff, its all a bit much.

30-04-2004, 12:01 AM
Well Windows Messenger works for me. I just type to family and a couple of friends from time to time.

Running WinXP Pro with SP 2.

No updates to Messenger for a few weeks now.

I don't use Microphones or speakers on MSN.

30-04-2004, 12:04 AM
> Yes, it allows you to run it over port 80 :-)

Cheers for that... my current strategy is putting it out through *cough* open HTTP proxies which is working at the moment.

Shame the MSN client just will not go out on port 80... used to back in the day.

30-04-2004, 12:15 AM

Did you think to download the Win32 (Windows) Executable (exe file)?

Windows runs EXE files... So download them... Either that or I provided the URL's above for everything you need :-)


Try out aMsn, I'd be keen to hear what you think?!


30-04-2004, 12:27 AM
> Try out aMsn, I'd be keen to hear what you think?!

Will do at some stage next week, am currently on leave from work for a week of block university courses.

I use aMsn on Debian at home and have no probs with it.

30-04-2004, 01:03 AM
i'm downloading aMSN for xandros... its great... i use it on windows now...

coldfusion is a non-believer tho... lets convert him :D