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karent
15-04-2004, 11:54 AM
Hi. I have some really cute mpgs of my 2 year-old daughter doing things 2 year-olds do. One of them is so cute I would like to email it to some rellies overseas. Problem is, although the clip is only about 90 secs in length, the file is 30 MB. Can such a file be compressed into a mailable size? Would it be best to set up a web page? Thanks.

godfather
15-04-2004, 12:00 PM
Mpeg format is already compressed, so further compresion (using ZIP or similar) will not work.

Re-encoding the stream at a very low resolution will make it mailable but of poor quality. A 90 second clip will still be a few MB, and people on dial-up may not be impressed.

Most "free" web hosts have only a 10 MB maximum space, so you may need to use a paid host to get 30 MB.

aNtzy
15-04-2004, 12:08 PM
> Hi. I have some really cute mpgs of my 2 year-old
> daughter doing things 2 year-olds do. One of them is
> so cute I would like to email it to some rellies
> overseas. Problem is, although the clip is only about
> 90 secs in length, the file is 30 MB. Can such a file
> be compressed into a mailable size? Would it be best
> to set up a web page? Thanks.

I'd say setting up a web page and letting your rellies download the mpg off the net would be a good way to do it. That way you won't need to alter the bitrate/resolution of the mpg file.

If you don't have a webpage or one that is less then 30MB storage then try this free web hosting (http://members4.freewebs.com/) site. Comes with a 50MB storage. Enough room for your mpg.

Susan B
15-04-2004, 12:17 PM
I wonder if you could use Virtual Dub or something like that to chop the file into three or four smaller files, upload them to a website and let your rellies download them at their leisure? They might even be able to join the files back together again if they were handy enough. :-)

I have edited some of my .avi files in this way but I am not sure about .mpg files.

Where's Metla? He's good at this sort of thing. :p :D

karent
15-04-2004, 12:25 PM
Thanks for your replies. It looks like I'll have to snailmail them a S/VCD or a DVD. Shame. I might still set up a web page for photos though. Pardon my paranoia but are such web pages secure? Not that I imagine loading anything secret or offensive. It's just that I don't like the idea of any old tom, dick or whatever accessing it.

Susan B
15-04-2004, 12:31 PM
Some webpage hosting sites can allow you to set a password to prevent unauthorised access, otherwise your files are available to all and sundry.

Oxie
15-04-2004, 12:52 PM
karent

Are you able to resave the files with a different name and apply a different method of compression? For example my camera saves the files as .avi files. Before I save them I can choose manual compression which then gives me alternative ways of compressing. I usually choose Cinepak Codec by Radius. However, if I want to email them I will choose MPEG4 Video High Speed Compression. This method sometimes results in the receiver not being able to view the files. If this is the case Microsoft Video 1 compression works well.

Oxie (Lyn)

karent
15-04-2004, 01:53 PM
Hi Oxie. The original aim was to save my movies in a format that I could then save to DVD so they could be played on a PC or a DVD player, hence MPG2. I used ULead VideoStudio 7 to download the files from camera to PC. That worked fine, although it took about 3 hours to transfer 15 minutes of film(!!) I know absolutely nothing about how the software works - I just followed my nose and tried a few things to see what happened. How do you save as .avi? Is that a Windows format?

Oxie
15-04-2004, 02:06 PM
I suggest you have a look at the software you are using, as it will probably offer different compression methods.

AVI (Audio Video Interleave) format was developed by Microsoft. It is a common format on PC's, and comes with the Windows operating system.

Oxie (Lyn)

Graham L
15-04-2004, 02:14 PM
It doesn't really matter what format your movies are in, Karen, 15 minutes is going to be enormous. :-( That's how it is. Remember what a movie is: 30 (or so) pictures ("frames") for every second. If you camera connects to the computer with a USB cable, you should see it as a "disk" in My Computer, and you will be able to copy files directly. That might be faster than a clever programme. (Almost anything is quicker than clever programmes ;-)).

No-one's going to like getting a 30 MB email. A lot of free services make 5 MB available for each user.

If you could get storage for a web site it would probably need to be a
paid hosting service, which ought to allow passwording of pages. Though "what 2 year olds do" isn't likely to be much of a problem. There's more interest in what 20 year olds do (or 19 ... Paris Hilton ... :O).

Susan B
15-04-2004, 03:35 PM
> There's more interest in what 20 year olds do (or 19 ... Paris Hilton ... ).

Who?!! :O

Jeez Graham, you do surprise me sometimes. You are supposed to be a Geek! :p :D

karent
15-04-2004, 04:09 PM
GrahamL - surely you (or anybody) could do better than Paris Hilton! BTW how do you get video from digicam to PC via firewire or USB2 without using specialist software? And if it can be done using some Windows bit, can the files then be edited/saved to DVD? And please don't get technical on me - I have no desire to know about the complicated bits of the equipment I've got. I just want to make/save my little home movies.

Graham L
15-04-2004, 05:41 PM
If your camera has a USB cable, plug it in. If you are using XP, there should be a new "removable disk" on the "My Computer" page. Browse through that --- there may be a few directories which contain "administrative things", but you'll find files with a little movie camera icon for movies, and some "picture" type icon for stills. If you have a directory called "My Pictures" or something like that, you should be able to "drag and drop" files from the camera to that (Or anywhere else ... I often just move things to the desktop and sort it out later).

Firewire might do the same ... I don't know. Let us know the camera make and model ... there's sure to be an expert around. Or someone who owns that or a simlar one, anyway. ;-)

I believe there was a bit of interest in the short home video of PH multitasking answering the phone while engaged in other activities. The ex-boyfriend was expecting to make some money for the clip. Obviously he gave up hope of sharing in the Hiltn hotel chain.

godfather
15-04-2004, 06:35 PM
Trouble is Graham, the movie will exist only on tape, and be available as a video stream I suspect.

A file will not exist untill its been "captured" on the PC. What you describe will be the case for still images on a memory card, but not for DV tape?