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stu140103
04-04-2004, 05:57 PM
Hello every one

Does any one know of any Good free Bandwidth usage program (which has no ad-aware /spy were)???

At the moment I am using BWmeter, but it is about to expires in two days time

Hope some one can help me here? ?:|

PS: I am still on Jet Stream Starter (but not for long ;) hopefully)(but with a new ISP Xtra & lower Bandwidth cap 3 GB :(, that is why I am looking for another Bandwidth usage program)

whiskeytangofoxtrot
04-04-2004, 06:00 PM
You'd be wise to use the Telecom usage meter as that's the on you're billed off.

Relying on something on your machine could lead to some unpleasant bills.

stu140103
04-04-2004, 06:11 PM
> You'd be wise to use the Telecom usage meter as
> that's the on you're billed off.
>
> Relying on something on your machine could lead to
> some unpleasant bills.

I am not the bill payer( My mum/dad is), so I don’t have access to that :(

& we know how crap it is any way :D :p

Susan B
04-04-2004, 06:58 PM
> You'd be wise to use the Telecom usage meter as that's the on you're billed off.

A couple of weeks ago PoWa drew attention to the fact that the Telecom meter usage is higher, sometimes much higher, than a user's ISP meter. Are you able to shed some light on this please, WTF?

I have been keeping an eye on both and Telecom's meter definitely records higher usage than my ISP's which is a bit of a concern. I can limit my usage if necessary to keep under my cap but by the same token if my bill is going to be based on my ISP's meter then I can soon use more than what Telecom's meter indicates.

Your thoughts on this please?

stu140103
05-04-2004, 06:39 PM
**Bump**

PoWa
05-04-2004, 08:03 PM
> You'd be wise to use the Telecom usage meter as that's the on you're billed off.

Wouldn't base my usage on that thing if you paid me too.

Gee I feel sorry for those poor suckers on Surf and Jetstream plans. Jetstart you're relatively safe from the scam, as thats based on ISP usage. Doesn't mean your ISP is safe though, as they must pay to onsell some of the bandwidth.

I made a cool little c++ program (http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/decimato/UsageMeter.zip) that calculates what your usage will show up as on the Telecon usage meter. :^O

Compare that to your telecom usage meter and you'll prolly find its spot on.

stu140103
06-04-2004, 12:16 PM
** Bump **

Does any one know of any Good free Bandwidth usage programs (which has no ad-aware /spy were)???

At the moment I am using BWmeter, but it is about to expires today

Susan B
06-04-2004, 12:39 PM
Don't know of any free ones Stu. I have been trying out DU Meter which expires in 12 days then I will have to fork out $US19.95 if I want to keep it. Also tried BMExtreme which I didn't like as much as DUMeter but I don't know how much that costs.

So far, by keeping an eye on Telecon's meter I think I might be able to get away with not having a bandwidth meter to keep track of my usage as 3GB appears to be quite generous for my use so far. I will have to see how much I miss the meter once it is gone. :p

How on earth do you manage to use more than 3GB? :-)

unbiasedadventure
12-04-2004, 02:56 AM
It's no secret, but Telecom has offered with it's CDMA-1x mobile data services "Down2Home" for free on a CD. I don't know why this isn't offered to JetStream broadband customers as well, but it works great.

Down2Home has an easier interface than DUMeter (yes, even simplier!) - a giant graph that can be set any way you chose (2D, 3D, bar, line).

It's free, read about it or d/load it from here: http://home.tiscali.be/yuc-joachim/

Jester
12-04-2004, 12:49 PM
Heres a question...

Do those programs that measure the data downloaded, work only on one machine? At home I have two PC's networked thru a router. I would therefore have to run the program on both PC's and add them together to get my net total, right?

If I go into the web interface for the router it shows a summary of data for the current connection

http://sal.neoburn.net/imagef1/files/routerdata.jpg

So, if the connection began on the anniversary date of my account and was kept alive continually it should be accurate as far as my set-up is concerned (although it appears that Telecom calculates differently)?

I'm waiting for 256K at end of month :)

J
:D

unbiasedadventure
13-04-2004, 12:02 AM
Down2home monitors the host it is installed on. If you have 2 PCs then you'll need to install it on both.

I noticed a feature is "Logging of volume in database" so maybe if you have PC's and they can talk to each other / are networked, then maybe both can log to the same common database file, worth a crack - else just add up the totals from each PC ;)

http://home.tiscali.be/yuc-joachim/

In terms of your "rollover date" do yourself a favour and reset your router/modem at midnight, or sometime before hand. It creates a "stop" record that summarises your JetStream traffic up until that point, and a new record is created. Helps out your official Telecom JetStream Usage Meter @ http://www.telecom.co.nz/chm/0,5123,200343-202482,00.html to reflect usage from the midnight rollover time. Don't ask....

With Telecom counting higher than what your router stats show, I'll leave that for others to comment on...

Greg S
13-04-2004, 01:21 AM
When I was on Jetstart with Orcon, their usage figures always matched what my Telecom Usage Meter showed, over a year. For the last few weeks I've been on Surf 3gig and all appears to be quite accurate (based on my average usage by this time of the month)

falvrez
13-04-2004, 08:51 AM
I was interested in this down to home product as a tracker for usage on telecom's mobile jetstream but as far as I can see after installing it, it only monitors the network card? I saw in the specs you can choose your network adaptor but I can't see where to do this.
Keen on any software that *solely* tracks usage over MJS using cellphone...otherwise you have to ring telecom to check your current usage - that is just such a modern way to do things (sarcasm, sorry).

Big John
13-04-2004, 10:23 AM
> > You'd be wise to use the Telecom usage meter as
> that's the on you're billed off.
>
> A couple of weeks ago PoWa drew attention to the fact
> that the Telecom meter usage is higher, sometimes
> much higher, than a user's ISP meter. Are you able to
> shed some light on this please, WTF?

I was the one that drew the attention to it due to the fact I was looking to go to the 256 plan but when I looked Telecoms meter said I used 21GB of data in 4 weeks. This was not just a one off but nearly all the time. Paradise however was recording around the 4-5GB per month mark. This is a 4-5 times difference.

Asked Telecom what was going on and they told me it was due to the different billing cycles. This was even though I told them that it was not.
They said for me to get the data for my current billing period and see what both said.

I did that. I was 3 weeks into a billing cycle and JetStream usage said I had used 17GB of data. Went and checked Paradises meter and it said I had used only 4GB. E-mailed this information with the proof of both meters and waited for an answer. It finally arrive 5 days later saying that they could not comment but their meter was correct and that I should take the issue up with Paradise.

Now I know I had not used 17GB of data even with all the overhead of TCP/UDP packets so there was not much else to do except take it and stay on the JetStart plan because if I had gone on the 256 plan I would be down to 64Kb within a week.



>
> I have been keeping an eye on both and Telecom's
> meter definitely records higher usage than my ISP's
> which is a bit of a concern. I can limit my usage if
> necessary to keep under my cap but by the same token
> if my bill is going to be based on my ISP's meter
> then I can soon use more than what Telecom's meter
> indicates.
>
> Your thoughts on this please?

Susan B
13-04-2004, 11:01 AM
> Do those programs that measure the data downloaded, work only on one machine? At home I have two PC's networked thru a router. I would therefore have to run the program on both PC's and add them together to get my net total, right?

One of the ones I tried (either BMExtreme or DUMeter, can't remember which one now) allowed you to count the traffic on the network. I am sure it could be customised even further but that meant that the entire traffic, including sharing files, etc over the network was counted, not just the internet traffic. It almost gave me a heart attack to start with (before I RTFM :p) when the meter's reading went through the roof after transferring a folder full of pics. :p :D

> So, if the connection began on the anniversary date of my account and was kept alive continually it should be accurate as far as my set-up is concerned (although it appears that Telecom calculates differently)?

I have noticed that Telecom's billing period begins and ends a little earlier than my ISP's billing period which is where the discrepancy lies - in my case, anyway.


> When I was on Jetstart with Orcon, their usage figures always matched what my Telecom Usage Meter showed, over a year. For the last few weeks I've been on Surf 3gig and all appears to be quite accurate (based on my average usage by this time of the month)

Greg, does your Telecom billing period match Orcon's? If not, how many days difference is there?


> I was the one that drew the attention to it

Now that you mention it I do remember your thread on that matter - sorry John.

> Asked Telecom what was going on and they told me it was due to the different billing cycles.

That applies to my situation. Telecom's cycle begins five or six days earlier than my ISP's so there is a couple of hundred MB difference between the totals. Your case sounds a pretty extreme though, I hope you manage to achieve a satisfactory outcome.

Greg S
13-04-2004, 11:04 AM
Suzie - 1 day's difference

Susan B
13-04-2004, 11:22 AM
> Suzie - 1 day's difference

Ah.... you're lucky. :-)

stu120404
23-05-2004, 10:29 PM
I know this post is a month old.

Since I made this post I have tried: Bwmeter & Traffic Calculator ( which has just expired on me today :(, at the moment I am trying Down2Home which unbiasedadventure suggested, but I am not liking it much as soon as I restart the computer ( Iam running win ME so I have to restart 2 a couple of time a day) the count restarts?!, does that sound right, for the people who used it, or is it install incorrectly?

Any other suggestion?, I might try DU Meter & BMExtreme soon…

> How on earth do you manage to use more than 3GB? :-)
Hmmm, I will tell ya via MSN or chat one day… lets just say forum surfing & website surfing, takes up a bit…

No, I don’t look at porn sits! Dad would kill me if I did!!!!! :_|, Iam telling the truth here.

Budda
24-05-2004, 09:01 AM
Now I know I had not used 17GB of data even with all the overhead of TCP/UDP packets so there was not much else to do except take it and stay on the JetStart plan because if I had gone on the 256 plan I would be down to 64Kb within a week.


Big John?? wouldnt this mean that they were charging you a couple of hundred extra dollars for going over your 10Gb limit on jetstart?????

Jester
24-05-2004, 12:59 PM
I know this thread's getting on a bit, however I just checked my usage on the JS meter, and saw that in 7 seconds I apparently downloaded 1.06 and uploaded .7 , is this possible on a 256k connection? In my experience Jetsurf takes generally 30 secs for 1 meg to download.

Screenshot (http://sal.neoburn.net/imagef1/files/usage7seconds.jpg)

Comments?

J
:D

Jester
24-05-2004, 01:08 PM
If I do the math on the other statistics, it also reveals interesting facts.

Taking the downloaded figure only into consideration, it says that in a 1454 minute period (10.49PM on 20 May to 11.03pm on 21 May), I downloaded 192.92 MB. This is 7.54 MB / min.

I'm not getting that speed on 256. Could it be that they are including the JSG realm traffic?

J
:|

godfather
24-05-2004, 01:31 PM
7 Seconds?

11:03 to 11:10 (HH:MM) is 7 minutes?

AFAIK JSG realm could easily be counted these days.
Is there any statemnt on the Telecom or ISP sites now that says otherwise? I do not use JSG so have never looked lately, but a while ago I could find no linkage promulgating the free nature.

Jetstream Surf will be all traffic as well, not just international like JS Starter was?

Jester
24-05-2004, 01:36 PM
>7 Seconds?
>
>11:03 to 11:10 (HH:MM) is 7 minutes?

Oh dear, you are right.... damn I must have been away that day of school

:8}

I'll calm down a bit now and get back to my lunch, wondering if the kind folks at Telecom will notice my error in the email I send them ... got a rock I can hide under, GF?