View Full Version : LCD & Gaming: Any Cost = what is it?

John Doe1
09-03-2004, 07:41 PM
1. A flat screen 17" monitor is too "fat"

2. I want a 17" LCD screen, and when I want to I want to play games.

3. I really don't care how much it's going to cost, but obviously don't want to waste my money.

3. What's the deal? Ditching my Philips 107E 17" Monitor and Nvidia Geforce FX5200 128meg AGP Video Card I'm moving on up to:

- Philips 150S 15" LCD $400
- Philips 150B 15" LCD $450
- Philips 170S 17" LCD $620
- Philips 170C 17" LCD $670
- Philips 170B 17" LCD $720
- Philips 170W 17" Wide $720
- Philips 170T 17" Wide TV $1050
- Philips 180P 18" LCD $1120
- Philips 190B 19" LCD $1190

Do I need to kill my graphics card and move on up as well?

- GeForce FX 5600XT 256MB VIVO $120
- GeForce FX 5700 128MB $170
- GeForce FX 5700 256MB VIVO $220
- ATI Radeon 9600XT 128MB $150
- ATI Radeon 9800SE 128MB $370

Crumbs, I just wanna LCD I can play games on, it's 2003, what's the deal?

09-03-2004, 08:01 PM
I've heard they still aint quite there with LCD's that are suitable for fast framerates. Even the ones over a grand you can see some blurring. The new, good ones that are nearly suitable are coming out at about $6000 atm.

Look for some that have really low pixel latenency.

If you're doing graphic design it also pays to get your colours absolutely correct and the LCD's for that are just emerging now at very high price.

John Grieve
10-03-2004, 01:39 AM
LCDs are susceptible to image blurring caused by slow "response" rates in high framerate games like First Person Shooters and Third Person games. If you play these sorts of games (Counterstrike, Unreal Tournament, Quake 3, Call of Duty etc etc) and do not want blurring to occur then you need to look for a rate of 20ms or less (some LCDs now have 16ms rates now). Anything over 20ms will produce the blur if you are running a good vidcard capable of producing high framerates. Even 20ms produces blur with very fast vidcards (such as those you list). What is really needed is a 12ms or even less response time but they do not exist in the market yet.

Do not believe any salesman who tries to tell you different. All those cards you mention are capable of generating framerates that will blur on a monitor with a rate 20ms and over. I have Lans at home every 2 weeks. Over the last year various attendees have experimented with LCDs and consequently sold them off until they purchased ones with 20ms or less rates that they were happy with.

However hardcore gamers still stick with CRTs worldwide as LCDs still are not really good enough for fast framerate games.

10-03-2004, 01:44 AM
hi.. where did u get those prices? they seem so cheap...online?

anyway, 15inch lcd=17crt, and your fx5200 is abit too slow for high spec games, like u said, its 2003/2004, so if i were u, i probally go for the phillips 150B and 9600XT the minimum.

I have a phillips 150B, its great :D

11-03-2004, 09:59 AM
Sub 16ms respnse is the go. Dell has a good one on their US site.

Stay away from the SE Radeon cards. Watered down performance.

11-03-2004, 03:27 PM
Gotta be careful though. Some are rated at 15ms up and 15ms down making 30ms total which is really bad.

Tom B.
11-03-2004, 03:45 PM
My 17" G-MAX LCD by Gigabyte Cost $700 odd about 5 months ago. It has 16ms "response" time and with a FX5600 ultra goes perfectly on Flight Sims.No blurring,no juddering and colours just fine. Should be readily available.

Tom B.

11-03-2004, 06:16 PM
Flight sims aren't known for there blistering fast framerates though,and i do believe people have said thats where the blurring occurs.