View Full Version : Off Topic: HTOTW 'Stardust'

Terry Porritt
28-11-2003, 05:31 PM
(HTOTW = Hot Tune Of The Week, Real Audio Player is needed to listen, sorry folks, that's out side of my control)

This week the featured tune is Stardust, one of the most widely recorded ballads of the 20th century. Yet it started out as a jazzy tune composed by the immortal Hoagy Carmichael (1899-1981) in 1927, and inspired he said, by the lyrical phrasing of the equally immortal Bix Beiderbecke, with whom he was closely associated.

The first recording of this standard was also in 1927 by Hoagy Carmichael and his Pals, a band which included the Dorsey brothers Jimmy (clarinet, alto-saxophone) and Tommy (trombone, and also a mean, hot trumpet).

Click here (http://www.redhotjazz.com/songs/hoagy/stardust.ram) to listen to this very first seminal recording of Stardust.

My favorite version (it is very difficult to choose a favorite) recorded 2 years later, also features the Dorsey brothers in the Irving Mills "Hotsy Totsy Gang" band, this is also a hot version compared to the later ballads.
Click here (http://www.redhotjazz.com/songs/mills/stardust.ram) and listen to a superb arrangement.

In the same year Hoagy reworked the tune into a ballad version and words were added by Mitchell Parish. The ballad version (without words though) recorded by Isham Jones and his Orchestra became a best hit of 1931, and from then on the tune took off to be recorded by virtually all vocalists and dance bands of succeeding generations. There are hundreds if not thousands of versions recorded over the years.
Isham Jones version (http://www.redhotjazz.com/Songs/ishamjones/stardust.ram)

The other hit version of 1931 was Bing Crosby's recording. I used to have this on a Brunswick 78rpm, sadly long since gone. Unfortunately all I can find is a 30 second clip from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/recs/radio/krex/-/track/B0000045HS001004/ref=pd_krex_dp_t/104-2224269-2756714#) which doesn't do it justice at all.

Finally for a more detailed history of this 'song of the century' go to this Stardust (http://www.4stardust.com/history.htm) site. You can also get a few bars of Nat King Cole singing it to if you go to the main page.

Next week will feature Bing Crosby and the Rhythm Boys jazzing it up with the Duke Ellington Orchestra.

Happy listening :)

Terry Porritt
28-11-2003, 05:46 PM
Forgot Billys tip to number the post, so this is #1 :8}

Graham L
28-11-2003, 06:36 PM
Go on, find a source for "Remembrance". Played by Gil Desch (???) on every Saturday morning (?) request session on the National programme for many years. :D

Susan B
28-11-2003, 08:28 PM
> Real Audio Player is needed to listen, sorry folks,

I was looking forward to this but not sure that I am game enough to get that player. :|

Terry Porritt
28-11-2003, 08:45 PM
Real Player 8 off an older PCW disk is the thing to use Susan, just turn off Take 5 and disable start centre, and anything that wants to connect out or update etc. If it comes bundled with Jukebox which it may, then uninstall Jukebox. Run Adaware to remove Comet Cursor, the player is then "benign" and just a player :)

Poppa John
28-11-2003, 09:20 PM
Terry. Have downloaded a Free version of Real from :-
Played your links ok & loved them Thanks PJ

Susan Whats wrong with Real, in your opinion?? PJ

28-11-2003, 09:42 PM
Wow! That was great Terry (the old basic Realplayer did the job). I'm with you - the Dorsey's version has real gas, but......I've never heard Bing in other than the crooning mode - the guy could actually sing.

Good stuff - can't wait till next time.

Murray P
28-11-2003, 09:49 PM
> Susan Whats wrong with Real, in your opinion?? PJ

It likes telling momma little fibs about you PJ when it calls home and Comet Curser is just a malaware pest.

Thanks for the link, I'll have a look then start listening.


Cheers Murray P

Murray P
28-11-2003, 10:00 PM
You can get Real Player 8 (& others) at OldVersion.com. Looks like an interesting site with older versions of all sorts of goodies. So, if your old clucker won't run the latest wiz bang version of something or other you at least have a chance to get one that works.

Cheers Murray P

28-11-2003, 10:47 PM
Real Alternative it plays most real stuff.


Susan B
29-11-2003, 02:03 PM
OK, thanks Terry, I'll have a hunt around for the older version and try that. :-)

> Susan Whats wrong with Real, in your opinion??

It has some rather bad manners: has got spyware, takes over other file associations and makes it difficult to get them back. As Terry has explained Real Player can be kept under one's thumb with a bit of know-how but I have heard that the newer version, RealOne, is much worse so beware.

Terry Porritt
29-11-2003, 05:12 PM
I'll put a note in the next HTOTW about alternative players to Real One, including Murray.p's older version site and JM's alternative player site. There is also Ultraplayer which is quite ok for Real Audio.