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XOtagoScarfie
16-11-2003, 10:07 AM
Ok so the motherboard doesn't have agp (damn it)
Whats the best pci card under $150 available at the moment and whats the difference between radeon and Geforce?

Only want it to be able to play age of mythology etc

Cheers

Duron 1400 256Ram Asus A7v-ve on Win ME

chiefnz
16-11-2003, 10:18 AM
Ummm well you should be able to get a GeForce4 MX440 64MB DDR SDRAM, for about $129, depending where you buying it from but it would be able to run most of the recent games available.

cheers
chiefnz

XOtagoScarfie
16-11-2003, 12:26 PM
thanks how do the radeon's compare against the Geforces?
i.e is it worth spending another $40 for a 128MB 9200 radeon

Cheers

Chilling_Silently
16-11-2003, 12:31 PM
Is that PCI?

That price looks comparatively like AGP Pricing to me (Or do Radeon not differentiate much between pricing for AGP and PCI Graphics Cards?)

If it IS a PCI card, and it'll work on your system, then yeah, I'd say its worth it :-)

XOtagoScarfie
16-11-2003, 12:38 PM
well according to pricespy anyway it is the correct'ish' figure

XOtagoScarfie
16-11-2003, 12:40 PM
ummm what do you mean 'and it'll work on your system'? as I'm not that knowledgeable in this department. Are there other things I'm forgetting to consider?

Cheers

XOtagoScarfie
16-11-2003, 06:54 PM
bump

Pete O\'Neil
16-11-2003, 08:12 PM
if you can find a PCI Radeon 9200 or Geforce FX5200 that fits ur budget buy it, either will be better than a GF4MX. Im sure u could pick up a second hand SKt A motherboard off trade me or out of the trade & exchange for under $100 and then get a cheap AGP card. It would offer better preformance and future upgradability.

Chilling_Silently
16-11-2003, 08:40 PM
Agreed Pete!

And by that comment, I wasnt sure if they actually made raedon 9200's in PCI... :-)

XOtagoScarfie
16-11-2003, 09:03 PM
yup see here (not the best price though) cheaper thru pricespy
http://www.gamesman.co.nz/product.php?id=2247

Cheers thanks guys

Elephant
16-11-2003, 09:13 PM
You may be able to do yourself a favour here. I don't know what sound card you have but the creative audigy pci card comes with Firewire as well as the sound. Just a thought.

Get the Firewire and beef up sound as well!!!

Elephant
16-11-2003, 09:17 PM
Ooooopppps replied to the wrong post. Thought I was looking for Firewire.

Curious George
16-11-2003, 09:45 PM
Arrrgh! Not the pci card!
If you can splash for a $130 pci card, save a bit more and buy something like a soltek sl-75mrn which has integrated graphics, and you can add a decent card at a later date.
Check this will accept the mem you have, and that could be something nice to built around.
my 2c

metla
16-11-2003, 09:45 PM
The 9200 card uses the exact same chipset as the 9000 card, the only difference being that the 9200 is 8xagp,Which is irrelevant in this case as the mans after a pci card, and irrelevant completely because the 9000/9200 chipset isn't fast enough to outperform the 4xagp standard.

Plus, the 9200SE is the slowest of the entire range, slower then the basic 9000.

Probably irrelevant anyway seeing as the prices of the cards are all much the same anyway but you have to keep an eye on video card manufactures, they are dishonest with their product to the point of fraud.(kinds reminds me of Apple and their product)


Which brings us back to the pci dilemma, Any modern card that runs on the pci slot is limited not by the chipset on the card but by the speed of the pci slot, So there is no need to buy a fast performing card as it wont run any faster or better then a cheaper one.

Ati or NVIDIA, it won't matter just buy the cheapest you can find (within limits of course but a g4mx would do you fine)

Chilling_Silently
16-11-2003, 10:30 PM
That was part of my concern metla...

And Im going to debate getting a new mobo with OnBoard graphics... They're never going to be as good as AGP, or probably PCI for that matter. They certainly arent now.

And its ever worse if you have Shared Memory, as opposed to dedicated OnBoard!!!!

A PCI card would be better than a mobo upgrade ATM IMHO.

XOtagoScarfie
17-11-2003, 08:30 AM
Thanks a heap guys you make a lot of sense, so I think i'll go with the el cheapo pci card. One other question though what is the expected lifespan of the card as I have a voodoo banshee 16MB but games life age of mythology doesn't support it. Is this going to happen reasonably soon to the GeForce4 MX card as well?


Any thoughts

Cheers

XOtago

XOtagoScarfie
17-11-2003, 07:43 PM
any difference between sdram and ddr on the board for a video card using pci or are they the same.

Interestingly Noel Leemings are the 2nd best price for a 128MB geforce4 pci (not that I'll go for that prob. just the 64MB but interesting just the same) on pricespy

Cheers