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Gods-Hitman
08-11-2003, 11:05 PM
Hey
Some people say that the new ati graphics card drive for radons and kill you screen has eny 1 had that prob? i installed it and got 40fps MORE! im a laptop but still i like my screen so shoud i keep the driver or roll back?

Thx

BIFF
08-11-2003, 11:35 PM
> Hey
> Some people say that the new ati graphics card drive
> for radons and kill you screen has eny 1 had that
> prob?

The only 'prob' is the inane tripe you keep posting. Do you talk like this???

Gods-Hitman
08-11-2003, 11:48 PM
1)My keybord has hard leters so if i say your im might come out as you
2)I'm bad at spelling
3)You NEED to chill out
4)Dont wast time

ilikelinux
09-11-2003, 08:31 AM
i didn't know there was a new driver?

and for what radeons?

p.s don't u hate those annoying keyboards?

You should chuck it out and get a nother one. for about $20 or so

ilikelinux
09-11-2003, 08:32 AM
oops forgot u hate a laptop.........

ilikelinux
09-11-2003, 08:33 AM
I hate my spelling. i correct my self here.

oops forgot you had a laptop

Gods-Hitman
09-11-2003, 10:12 AM
ok i get it i will use the spell check, but has any one had the problem?

tweak\'e
09-11-2003, 10:58 AM
i can't see how a driver is going to "kill" a screen. if its working fine then keep it.

Lohsing
09-11-2003, 11:16 AM
> i can't see how a driver is going to "kill" a screen.
> if its working fine then keep it.

There was something about the latest Catalyst 3.8 drivers which were supposed to over-heat your card, essentially killing the card. Can't remember where i read it, but a google will show the way.

Lo.

Lohsing
09-11-2003, 11:23 AM
Found this quote....

"RESPONSE TO ALLEGED MONITOR FAILURE ISSUE:

We have spent a great deal of time trying to reproduce this problem and analyzing our driver code. There is nothing in our driver code that has changed since CAT 3.7 to CAT 3.8 that could possibly cause this behaviour. We believe that our drivers are not causing these alleged problems. We do not currently believe these stories are valid. We have already confirmed that of the nearly 100 OEM customer programs have asked for and received this driver, we have received no reports on any such problem from the OEMs. We have also run comprehensive QA tests on the driver before releasing it and have had no cases of failed monitors.

Since we announced CATALYST 3.8 on October 8th, we have recorded hundreds of thousands of downloads, and thus far there have been absolutely no reports whatsoever to ATIís Customer Support department to report monitors failing.

TECHNICAL REBUTTAL OF MONITOR FAILURE ALLEGATIONS:

There have been many posts in the forums discussing this issue, it seems it is a common theory, picked up from one place and keep being circulated. One such theory suggests the following: ďInstead of reading the refresh rates from the PRIMARY display INF files, it is reading the SECONDARY display INF refresh rates.Ē

In XP and 2K, we donít have access to monitor INF information in our driver component that manages display capability. We have never used this monitor information for any purpose. We rely on EDID data or user override information to determine monitor capability. Even though the OS may use the monitor information to expose high refresh rate based on monitor INF content, the driver always restricts the actual refresh rate going to the monitor based on EDID or the user override. In essence, the user may be able to select from OS controlled monitor page (in advanced property pages) a high refresh rate but internally driver will restrict the refresh rate going to the monitor based on EDID information or user override information. If user set the override information incorrectly then incompatible signals would be sent to the monitor. In 9x, we can access monitor INF information but due to issues with how OS maps the INF to a monitor, we had disabled reading the monitor INF via registry. Unless someone deliberately changes the registry setting for this in 9x, they would not run into any monitor INF related issues.

RESPONSE TO ALLEGED HARDWARE OVERHEATING ISSUE:

We have spent a great deal of time analyzing the temperatures due to the CATALYST 3.8 drivers. We do not under any circumstance see anything near a 10 degree Celsius increase in temperature (but we donít overclock our test cards either). We do see a slight increase in temperature in certain cases (3Dmark2003 Nature Scene for example). However any temperature increase is well within our safety range. Investigation continues and we are trying to determine why this change in temperature exits. At this point we are reproducing individual driver packages with code being checked in and measuring the temperature. However nothing shows the alleged increase in temperature. One independent website (DriverHeaven.net) even tried to reproduce this issue, and found no measurable difference in temperature between CATALYST 3.7 and 3.8. "

Lohsing
09-11-2003, 11:24 AM
I think there is an issue if you try to overclock the card using their overclocking facility... but then the new 3.9 drivers are out anyway.

Lo.

Gods-Hitman
09-11-2003, 01:48 PM
Thx, Ill keep the drivers

tweak\'e
09-11-2003, 02:40 PM
i do hear there are a few problems with openGL with the 3.9 drivers.

tweak\'e
09-11-2003, 11:27 PM
just to add........

"http://www.driverheaven.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30303

recently, we had all had a heard a bunch of rumors about cat 3.8?s having thermal issues. So as most of you know. I went through and did some testing to get past the myth and get down to the facts. For those of you who missed it the article can be found here: Ati Drivers Put To The Test: Surprising results. Well I?m back again to follow through on the commitment and bring you the same test with the new official 3.9?s

Official Cat. 3.9?s GPU:
Idle 41.6
Full Load 45.3

Omegas based on 3.8.5
GPU
Idle 47.1
Full Load 55.6

Memory*
Idle 40.9
Full Load 52.1


Official Cat. 3.8?s
Idle 40.9
Full Load 46.3

Memory*
Idle 40.9
Full Load 52.1


Official Cat. 3.7?s
Idle 41.5
Full Load 47.6

Memory*
Idle 40.9
Full Load 52.1

Budda
10-11-2003, 08:06 AM
well dunno about catalyst probs, but i would readily admit to being a radeon fan boy, till recently when ive had probs with two seperate ati cards, a 9600PRO and a 7500.

Both seem to randomly put colored wavy lines running vertically down the page at random intervals and only way to get rid of them is reboot of computer. Have now had graphics card and mb replaced (also drivers and OS) and still no closer to fixing it :(, me is losing fan boy edge :(

Lohsing
10-11-2003, 09:31 AM
> well dunno about catalyst probs, but i would readily
> admit to being a radeon fan boy, till recently when
> ive had probs with two seperate ati cards, a 9600PRO
> and a 7500.
>
> Both seem to randomly put colored wavy lines running
> vertically down the page at random intervals and only
> way to get rid of them is reboot of computer. Have
> now had graphics card and mb replaced (also drivers
> and OS) and still no closer to fixing it :(, me is
> losing fan boy edge :(

Time to think about coming back to nVidia then? ;)

Lo.

Chilling_Silently
10-11-2003, 10:17 AM
> Time to think about coming back to nVidia then? ;)
>

..And that new nVidia FX 5950 is going to be all the more reason to support that statement when Half-Life 2 is released!!!