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heni72847
14-08-2003, 11:53 PM
is it normal for a AMD 2000+ 17GHz to reach 60 degrees
normally it's 50-54

agent
14-08-2003, 11:58 PM
I seem to recall something about AMD processors overheating a fair bit, so it could be normal for an AMD CPU.

However, I'd still say that even 50 degrees celcius is quite high, and 60 verging on unacceptable.

Murray P
15-08-2003, 12:10 AM
I have a 950 Duron that hums along at 60C+ but my xp 1800 rarely gets over 50C its 35 at the mo. Check out AMD's site for running temperatures. AFAIK, get worried if its getting around 75 hit the off button if its 80. The overclockers should be able to tell you more.

Cheers Murray P

Murray P
15-08-2003, 12:12 AM
BTW, what are you doing/running when it hits that temp?

Cheers Murray P

heni72847
15-08-2003, 05:18 PM
can't really remember...
just ms word, IE and something els

nothing that needs heaps of cpu like encoding video or anything...

Pete O\'Neil
15-08-2003, 05:32 PM
What core is that Athlon? The 2000+ was released in both Palimino and Throughbred. The original Palimino was very hot especially the 2000+ & 2100+ as these were the last two Athlons released with the Palimino core. The throughbred was a far better core, Intel fans often claim their CPU's run cooler but the lower speed Throughbreds were very cool and often get a bad rap because of their predessors(Thunderbird + Palimino).

Those temps are too hot for either of these two cores, but if it is a Palimino then dont expect it to drop by much. A Throughbred should be running alot cooler than that. Personally i would call a Throughbred thats running over 40 degress not under load too hot. What sort of cooling do you have on that CPU? Did u install it yourself? Did you apply thermal paste? Did you buy that CPU new? Retail or OEM?

The best way to lower those temps is to take off the HSF, grab some decent thermal paste(such as Artic Silver) and remount the processor. It may turn out that your HSF isnt up to the task of cooling that CPU( E.g you upgraded and are using the HSF off an older system).

Dont worry its not goin to blow up but it will pay to keep an eye on temps till you fix the problem. Athlons dont tend to blow up untill about 85-90 degrees c. I once had my ole trusty Duron up at 80 degrees and it survived.

roofus
15-08-2003, 08:17 PM
from recall 110 degrees is meltdown for an athlon so 60 degrees is nothing to worry about, I would argue that it is probably running hotter than a normal set up, but who cares, its no where near a danger zone

Terry Porritt
15-08-2003, 09:30 PM
Yes, it wont blow up at 60 degC, but that is too hot. Remember we are in winter, what about when the ambient temperature is another 10C or so higher?

Even allowing for measurement uncertainty, the aim should be to get the cpu temp. down to about the 50C mark. My 1.33Ghz Athlon is currently said to be 40/41C, with system temperature reported as 25C.

Big John
16-08-2003, 02:50 PM
> from recall 110 degrees is meltdown for an athlon so
> 60 degrees is nothing to worry about, I would argue
> that it is probably running hotter than a normal set
> up, but who cares, its no where near a danger zone

Well I have a new Gainward Nivida FX5900Ultra video card and the warning is set at 104 degrees to slow it down which means it will go above this temp.

It humms along at about 50 to 60 degrees

Odin
16-08-2003, 02:55 PM
My Athlon was reading a temp or 63 Degrees but after a Bios update it came up as 36 degrees, turns out there was a problem with the Bios temperature polling which was fixed with the bios update, maybe yours is the same. I believe it affected several motherboard using the award bios

agent_24
21-08-2003, 10:39 PM
ive got a Duron 1.3Ghz that goes from 46-53 but it does have a volcano 9 on full power on it - Durons are overheaters, but the athlon should be cooler, if its a new one

heni72847
22-08-2003, 05:16 PM
i just installed MotherBoard Monitor 5 on my compuer
i set my sensor on LM90 Local
it gave results that looked like the cpu temperature

but now instead of the 54 or 55C from the health status in bios
it is showing around 37C

is there a way to test which reading is correct?
or closer to the actual value

55 and 37 is a big difference...

Graham L
22-08-2003, 05:24 PM
Open the lid and put your finger on the heatsink. If it feels "just warm" it will be a bit over 30 C. If it feels hot, it will be nearer 60°C. If you can bear your finger on it for only a second, that's 70°. If it raises a blister, it's hot.

Pheonix
22-08-2003, 05:39 PM
If it glows..it's way too hot :)

heni72847
22-08-2003, 08:09 PM
um.. isn't the fan above the heat sink...
how exactly do i put my finger on the heat sink?


and lucky..no .. it doesn't glow...

heni72847
22-08-2003, 08:14 PM
..i touched the side... couldn't really feel much heat at all...
just slightly warmer than my finger,,

Susan B
22-08-2003, 08:36 PM
> ..i touched the side... couldn't really feel much heat at all...

Touched the side of what? The computer case? :^O


Sorry, I couldn't resist it. :D

Graham L
23-08-2003, 03:45 PM
You touched the side of the heatsink ... that's fine; behave yourself Susan :O. It was "warm" ... that's somewhere in the 30s. That's fine. The "measurements" made by the hardware are no more accurate than what you've just done. The thermister and the simple A-D conversion gives an indication. It might cost 20 or 30 cents to put a proper temperature sensor on the motherboard. :D

The actual temperature inside the chip would be interesting to know ... it would be considerably higher: a couple of datasheets for Mosfets I have on my desk right now show maximum allowable Junction temperature as 175C, and the thermal resistance Junction-Ambient of 62.5C/W. :D

How many watts do these modern CPUs dissipate? That Mosfet figure is for the unit without heatsink ... and the usual mode is hard on and hard off, so there's virtually no dissipation. In fact I've just used my digital calculator -- fingers -- to work out that an STP30NE06L dissipates 1.5W at maximum current of 30A, so it would get the junction 93C above ambient, so I think I'd use a heatsink if I was working it that hard. :D

wintertide
23-08-2003, 04:33 PM
I have an Athlon XP 2000+ (Family 6, Model 8, Stepping 0) and I'm using cheap DSE thermal grease with two fans running (one exhaust, one intake) and my one runs at 47 degrees Celsius (according to Gigabyte EasyTune 4) under full load, so yours should be a fair bit cooler if you have extra fans in your case.