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Chilling_Silently
12-08-2003, 01:47 AM
Just was curious:
When playing ONLY and MP3, what is your CPU usage at.

No Visualisations...
No other apps running if possible,

Im just wanting people to post their:
1. CPU speed/type
2. The application used to play MP3's
3. MP3 Bitrate (eg. 192kbps, 128kbps)
4. Your OS
5. CPU Usage while playing the MP3 (Just a 30 second average perhaps?)


Im just rather curious, due to playing it on the family's Celeron 933Mhz, WinXP Pro, 192kbps MP3's, it sits with only WinAmp 2.91 going on about 20%
Close WinAmp and it drops down rather low to almost nothing.

Running on my PC however, and its totally different!

I know there's a ton of factors to consider, but I'm just interested in what other people experience for CPU Usage?

Cheers


Chill.

Greg S
12-08-2003, 03:25 AM
Would love to oblige, but which items should I be looking at in System Monitor - there seems to be hundreds (XP pro)

CYaBro
12-08-2003, 10:14 AM
1. AMD Duron 650 - 256MB RAM - Onboard video and sound
2. Winamp 2.80
3. 192kbs
4. Win2k SP4
5. 5% (most of the time sat on 0% but every now and then would go to 4,5 or 6%) This is with Mcafee Antivirus V7 and Pop-up Stopper still running in the systray.

godfather
12-08-2003, 10:40 AM
1 Intel P4 2GHz - 512 MB RAM - On board sound
2 Ultraplayer
3 192 kbs
4 Win XP SP1
5 About 5%, but not really able to be determined from the 0% to 7% background usage.

PoWa
12-08-2003, 10:57 AM
1. Athlon 1.1Ghz, 384sd-ram, integrated audio,
2. Winamp 2.9!
3. 192kbps, 128kbps
4. Xp Pro!
5.
192kbps: 0-2% cpu use (usually 0% after the first 5secs)
128kbps: 0-4% cpu use (usually 0 but sometimes it jumps to 2 n 4)

Winamp uses about 3,596K memory and Peak Memory is 7288K. Miles better than stupid media player 7, which uses 9,000 - 10,000K memory constantly changing (13,876K peak), and 18megs of virtual memory, 3-10 cpu. What a dog!

Chilling_Silently
12-08-2003, 12:00 PM
My AMD Athlon XP 1700+ with 512MB DDR RAM will sit happily on 2% and not go over it.

The only time it gets to around 4% is when it's changing song.. Buffering up I believe.

Working it out from a different perspective, its using around 30Mhz a second of my CPU... That seems a rather "interesting" way of putting it I suppose.

If I run upstairs and sit down on the family's XP Pro PC, its another story altogether?

Im using XMMS 1.2.7

Does anybody want to offer reasons for the difference here? Soundcard? Drivers? Optimisation for the system architecture?

bmason
12-08-2003, 03:13 PM
P400, win98, winamp 2.something: 8-12% depending on quality.

Athlon 2100, win98, winamp 3, onboard sound: 8-10%.

Any measurements in linux will be a bit inaccurate because of the way it uses the cpu. I forget why exactly.

Halwende
12-08-2003, 03:25 PM
1. Athlon XP 2600+ @2.09Ghz
2. Windows Media Player 9 Series
3. bitrates from 328Kbps - 380kbps
4. WinXP Pro
5. Usage between 2-4% (app minimised) raises to 34% if brought up but only because I have a fancy visualisation!

Hope that's useful.

Pete O\'Neil
12-08-2003, 05:30 PM
AMD Athlon @ 2.2ghz / 512mb RAM / Onboard Sound
Winamp 2.81
192kbps
Windows XP Pro
4%

-=JM=-
12-08-2003, 05:35 PM
1. AMD Athlon XP1900+ @ stock (1600MHz)
2. foobar2000 (http://www.foobar2000.org) 0.667
3. Anything from 64k MP3 to 320k OGG.
4. Windows XP Pro SP1
5. Approximately nothing, around 11% on change of file and up to 50% when fast forwarding.

This using onboard sound on a GA-7VRXP.

agent
12-08-2003, 06:40 PM
1. Intel Celeron 800MHz
2. Windows Media Player 9
3. Both 128kb and 192kb
4. Windows XP Pro, SP1
5. With both qualities, it hung around 20% CPU utilisation (WMP, that is, not overall), averaged about 18%, ranged from 15% to 23%.

Jen C
12-08-2003, 07:14 PM
1. Intel P4 2.4 GHz - 512MB RAM (PC2700)
2. Foobar2000 v0.62a
3. 192 kbs
4. XP Home + SP1
5. 4-6 %

J ZEP
12-08-2003, 07:20 PM
1. AMD Athlon XP1600+
2. Windows Media Player 8
3. 192kbps
4. XP pro SP1
5. Averaged about 5%

:-)

Mike
12-08-2003, 07:59 PM
1. Celeron 2.2GHz
2. Media Player 9
3. 128k
4. XP Pro SP1
5. 7% (oddly it rose to about 10% when minimised).

Mike.

i-gordon
12-08-2003, 11:03 PM
P4 on board sound with Sound Max
2.66Gb
512ram
Media player9
BitRate 128
CPU 7 -10
Mem Use 10216

southern_jas
13-08-2003, 12:51 AM
1. Athlon XP 1800, 1GB DDR Ram, Onboard Sound (Chaintech Summit M/B with CMEDIA audio chip)
2. WinAmp 2.78
3. 128kps
4. Win XP Pro with all updates
5. 0-7% but mostly background use as Nortons & Zonealarm both resident along with CMEDIA mixer & WinFast Wizard for the TV tuner card

PoWa
16-08-2003, 09:01 PM
Anyone notice the alarming trend here??? The suckers using SP1 for XP and windows media player have 5-35% more cpu useage than anyone else using WinAmp, and they have much more ram and CPU power as well.

When will you learn.. :p

-=JM=-
17-08-2003, 12:35 AM
> Anyone notice the alarming trend here??? The suckers
> using SP1 for XP and windows media player have 5-35%
> more cpu useage than anyone else using WinAmp, and
> they have much more ram and CPU power as well.
>
> When will you learn.. :p

Does it really matter though?

PoWa
17-08-2003, 01:23 AM
Of course it matters. Frees up cpu and memory for other matters. If your a gamer you can happily run winamp and play your game, whereas media player is out of the question.

Hawk
18-08-2003, 12:12 PM
1/ AMD Athlon XP 2400+ 512 MB DDR Ram
2/ Windows Media Player 9.0
3/ 128kps
4/ Windows XP Home
5/ 2-4% usage

Halwende
18-08-2003, 12:35 PM
> Anyone notice the alarming trend here??? The suckers
> using SP1 for XP and windows media player have 5-35%
> more cpu useage than anyone else using WinAmp, and
> they have much more ram and CPU power as well.
>
> When will you learn.. :p

lol, I'd rather have 5% minimised CPU usage with Media Player than 2-4% with crappy WinAmp!

I tried WinAmp and didn't like it, I had it going for two weeks and it crashed/hung at least six times. MP 9 has never, ever hung on me and I use it every day! Media Player gives me everything I need and a user-friendly interface my gf can use to make her own chick-flick CDs. Spyware? Pah! Resource-hungry? Hardly, have plenty to go around thanks.

Plus if I go to play a game of course I'll close it down! What kind of gamer leaves RAM-using apps like MP running in the background when playing? WinAmp is popular sure, well programmed maybe, maybe not, but just not my cup of tea thanks - I also prefer 382Kbps .wma's to 192Kbps .mp3's - what kind of sucker compresses music to a quality that's inferior in quality (yes I can tell) just to save a few MB's?

When will u learn :p

Chilling_Silently
18-08-2003, 01:16 PM
Windows Media player has hung on me many times, and I've used it on different machines, and OS's from 98 to Win2K3 server!

You can download a plugin for WinAmp 3 to burn CD's, not too sure about WinAmp 2.x though.

If I have a Game, I like my music going... I use XMMS in Linux which is a WinAmp clone, but why should I close down my music just because I want to play Quake 3, or Counter-Strike/Half-Life? C_S even has a plugin you can download to control winamp from within the game!

BTW - What's your PC stats?

Also, I can tell the difference as well, and can tell you there's a difference between the two codecs. If you really want best quality, ask Tweak'e for a Loss-less codec, he's mentioned a couple before :-)

Either way, Im not gonna nock you for using WMP, this was a survey just to see about CPU Usage while playing MP3's, not a flame war for Fav. Media players!

:-)

Fire-and-Ice
18-08-2003, 01:27 PM
> If I have a Game, I like my music going... I use XMMS
> in Linux which is a WinAmp clone, but why should I
> close down my music just because I want to play Quake
> 3, or Counter-Strike/Half-Life? C_S even has a plugin
> you can download to control winamp from within the
> game!

Isn't that distracting though, when you are trying to concentrate on staying alive? What about the games' own sound effects, how do you cancel them out in order to hear your music? Or do you have both the music and sound effects blasting you at the same time? :D

stu140103
18-08-2003, 02:01 PM
> > Anyone notice the alarming trend here??? The
> suckers
> > using SP1 for XP and windows media player have
> 5-35%
> > more cpu useage than anyone else using WinAmp, and
> > they have much more ram and CPU power as well.
> >
> > When will you learn.. :p
>
> Does it really matter though?

I agree with JM here

Does it really matter ?????????

Halwende
18-08-2003, 02:27 PM
Point taken about it turning into a bit of a flame war there, my apologies! So what conclusions have you come to Chilling Silently?

From my pov I'm happy with my results (I've posted them up previously) in comparison to all the others - how about you with yours?

Chilling_Silently
18-08-2003, 03:58 PM
What conclusions have I come to? Good question!

So far it would appear that most people use WinAmp, and that CPU usage no matter what the CPU speed will sit around 5%, probably due to other apps running in the background!

As for gaming, You can hear both at the same time, its not too bad really..

An you change the music when you've just wiped out all your enemies and you know they're waiting to re-spawn ;-)

I still manage to stay alive :p

PoWa
18-08-2003, 08:11 PM
> What kind of gamer leaves RAM-using apps like MP running in the background when playing?

Me. If winamp uses hardly any cpu cycles or memory then its perfect for the rock/techno music you use when playing something like Counter-Strike etc. You manage to find a good balance between music and the game sounds. The music is quieter than the game sounds.

>I also prefer 382Kbps .wma's to 192Kbps .mp3's - what kind of sucker compresses music to a quality that's inferior in quality (yes I can tell) just to save a few MB's?

I use Monkey's Audio lossless codec, so hah. Miles better than mp3 and wma for sure. Its basically a perfect wav off the cd, at half -> 3/4 the filesize. 382Kbps that filesize must be huge so why not just go lossless, and the filesize won't be much bigger. If you were even serious about lossy codecs you would go with lame or ogg-vorbis cos they whip the pants off wma or mp3.

Somebody should really do their homework.. :p