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Rod ger
10-08-2003, 11:03 AM
I am about to install w98 on a 60GB HD and, while I'm reasonably OK with it, I wondered if anyone had a link or two so I could refresh my memory.
Its more the size of the disc and partitioning sizes and making them accessible to w98 I'm a bit muzzy on.

Susan B
10-08-2003, 11:24 AM
Try the forum's FAQs. There is one on installing Windows by Heather, one on partitioning by tweak'e and probably one or two more that may be helpful.

Be patient when loading them though, they may take a little while to "wake up". Link top right of this page.

Rod ger
10-08-2003, 12:05 PM
Hi Susan,
Thanks for the reminder about FAQs. That's about what I know at the moment, but I know there's a limit to size of partition that w98 can access and there is a workaround, also I would be interested to see a bit more info on alternative plans for using partitions.

Rod ger
10-08-2003, 12:35 PM
Just been doing a bit of Googling and found reference to " interrupt 13 extensions" in relation to partition size and W98.
Seems the BIOS must support these, to be able to create larger partitions over 8.4GB, so I should be OK with that.

10-08-2003, 07:15 PM
From the M/S Knowledge base:-

The following limitations exist using the FAT32 file system with Windows operating systems:
Clusters cannot be 64 kilobytes (KB) or larger. If clusters were 64 KB or larger, some programs (such as Setup programs) might calculate disk space incorrectly.
A volume must contain at least 65,527 clusters to use the FAT32 file system. You cannot increase the cluster size on a volume using the FAT32 file system so that it ends up with less than 65,527 clusters.
The maximum possible number of clusters on a volume using the FAT32 file system is 268,435,445. With a maximum of 32 KB per cluster with space for the file allocation table (FAT), this equates to a maximum disk size of approximately 8 terabytes (TB).
The ScanDisk tool included with Microsoft Windows 95 and Microsoft Windows 98 is a 16-bit program. Such programs have a single memory block maximum allocation size of 16 MB less 64 KB. Therefore, The Windows 95 or Windows 98 ScanDisk tool cannot process volumes using the FAT32 file system that have a FAT larger than 16 MB less 64 KB in size. A FAT entry on a volume using the FAT32 file system uses 4 bytes, so ScanDisk cannot process the FAT on a volume using the FAT32 file system that defines more than 4,177,920 clusters (including the two reserved clusters). Including the FATs themselves, this works out, at the maximum of 32 KB per cluster, to a volume size of 127.53 gigabytes (GB).
You cannot decrease the cluster size on a volume using the FAT32 file system so that the FAT ends up larger than 16 MB less 64 KB in size.
You cannot format a volume larger than 32 GB in size using the FAT32 file system in Windows 2000. The Windows 2000 FastFAT driver can mount and support volumes larger than 32 GB that use the FAT32 file system (subject to the other limits), but you cannot create one using the Format tool. This behavior is by design. If you need to create a volume larger than 32 GB, use the NTFS file system instead.
NOTE: When attempting to format a FAT32 partition larger than 32 GB, the format fails near the end of the process with the following error:

Logical Disk Manager: Volume size too big.

Adding to that:- I just yesterday installed Win98SE on a Western Digital 60 Gig drive.

I booted off the A: drive with a Win98 boot disk and ran FDISK. The person I was doing it for wanted four partitions and that's the way I set it up. I could have had just the one partition under Win98SE if I had wanted.

To cut the above down to size I think your limitation will be with the Win98 scandisk program which would limit you to 127.53 Gigs. :-)


Rod ger
11-08-2003, 09:56 AM
Thanks Elephant, I've got it all set up to my satifaction . You write clearly but MS need lessons in unobfuscation!