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leonidas5
02-06-2003, 01:25 PM
Would welcome any advice on the current Compaq Presario offer via Warehouse Stationery Flier. Integrated graphics yes, but does have one 4x agp slot. What would people put in to "disable" the integrated graphics.

Any other comments? Thanks

Billy T
02-06-2003, 01:41 PM
You disable the integrated graphics in the set-up (bios) screens, but for anyone to judge the package fairly, you would have to post the full specs and price.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)

leonidas5
02-06-2003, 02:12 PM
Specs:

AMD Athlon 2200, Bus 266MHz, 384kb integrated on chip cache, 40GB HDD, 256mb PCI 2100 DDR, 56k modem, 6 2.0 USB slots, and usual other I/O stuff
HP scanner/copier/ Printer

$1487 +GST

Ideas requested

somebody
02-06-2003, 02:24 PM
no monitor???

sounds ok... could be a bit pricey, considering it has no monitor, but otherwise sounds ok.

Maybe a bit more RAM might help

~~~~~ s y ~~~~~
02-06-2003, 02:36 PM
One of my friend just brought one of these, the specifications are as follows:

AMD 2200+, 40gb, 256 DDR, 48x12x48 (I think) cd-rw, onboard sound/graphic, multimedia k/b, optical mouse, 6usb ports, 17" monitor, HP PSC1210 Multifunction machine, Windows XP Hm, NAV, MS Words, MS..... loads of other software.

These are off the top of my head, but I did say to him that it was a good deal, and still think so, considering they don't know much about computers, its a Compaq branded (they're always bit dear, but good quality but good backup, as they brought it cause they had suffered more than enough with their old PC) Software, if brought retail would of cost HUNDREDS.

Still, I believe its a good deal, you might want to buy the extra warranty to a total of 3 yrs for $1850 incl. GST total I think

somebody
02-06-2003, 02:48 PM
hmm... yes if it does have a monitor, and all the bundled things (MFC and Software), it does sound like quite a good deal.

Lohsing
02-06-2003, 03:03 PM
Ha! Yeah, my flatmate is Business Computers Manager or something for Warehouse Stationery and was going on about how good these computers are...

Seems like a good deal if you ask me, although the prices of Athlon XP CPU's is coming down ridiculously low anyway...

Lo.

Chilling_Silently
02-06-2003, 03:20 PM
Try here:
http://www.compaqcare.co.nz

:-)

tedheath
02-06-2003, 05:49 PM
I think this Warehouse Stationery deal is very good.
I hope it drops the price of secondhand models with slower clock speeds, memory and HDD capacity.
Have you looked in the T&E, see the dreaming noddies who still want moonbeams for their secondhand junk.

tedheath

Terry Porritt
02-06-2003, 05:58 PM
I often wonder whether those 'dreaming noddies' ever do sell their 486s or pentium 75s for $600 or so :) Well maybe not as much as that, but that was the sort of asking price from them was a year or two ago. Talk about living in a dream world.

Like a local 2nd shop trying to sell an old 14" monitor for $75. A week or two ago at Turners Auctions, good 4 year old ex ACC Compaq monitors were going for $70.

nomad
02-06-2003, 06:25 PM
the deal is great. i would buy it. we are thinking of a CPU box soon. but shame we already have scanner and printer both inket and laser. we bought a 17" monitor jus month ago..

this is a deal with too many peripherals for us.... and yes a great name.

N.

Terry Porritt
02-06-2003, 06:33 PM
Forgot, that Warehouse Stationery deal sounds as good as one will get, maybe another new line is coming out soon.

Those $70 Compaq monitors were 17".

segfault
02-06-2003, 06:57 PM
> I often wonder whether those 'dreaming noddies' ever
> do sell their 486s or pentium 75s for $600 or so :)
> Well maybe not as much as that, but that was the
> sort of asking price from them was a year or two
> ago. Talk about living in a dream world.

I saw someone selling a P166 in the T & E the other week. It was "Internet Ready" with Win98 and they wanted $1100 for it.

~~~~~ s y ~~~~~
02-06-2003, 06:57 PM
> Forgot, that Warehouse Stationery deal sounds as good
> as one will get, maybe another new line is coming
> out soon.

You're exactly right.... BUT..... if you're continually waiting to get something, you'll never get it. The best time to get something, is when you think its best for you, when you need it, otherwise don't bother thinking about it.

Like me, I was thinking of getting a good AMD couple of months back, but ended up for this 'cool as' second-hand PIII. Works just as well, do I need a new one? NO.... In this time, I have saved myself hundred if not thousand....

If you want it, get it, if not, leave it.... easy :D

Hope you make a wise decision, ;-)

segfault
02-06-2003, 06:59 PM
> Try here:
> http://www.compaqcare.co.nz
>
> :-)

I would watch them - "Please choose carefully as we DO NOT take returns for any reason." Aren't they breaking the law by doing that?

~~~~~ s y ~~~~~
02-06-2003, 07:01 PM
> I saw someone selling a P166 in the T & E the other
> week. It was "Internet Ready" with Win98 and they
> wanted $1100 for it.


I'm sure my Dad won't mind giving his, "Internet/Network Ready" P200 with monitor and 32mb ram, 1GB *WOW! some might say* for $1000+ ($100 discount) :p anyday

Otherwise, you can have my P75 overclocked to P100 for $100 ANYDAY ;-) Reply if you're interested ;-) Very genuine.... :D

metla
02-06-2003, 09:50 PM
looks like a cheap nasty and not-worth-spitting on system.

You only get what you pay for and the only good component i can see in that is the cpu,which id guess would be restricted by the 2 dollar mobo.

From what ive seen those all-in-one printer-scanners do a poor job of printing and scanning(looked into getting one for the office a couple months ago,needless to say we ditched the idea quick smart.

The bundled software is rubbish,id get rid of the lot apart from ms-word.

And what exactly would you do when it went knees up?...take it to the pen salesman you bought it off?...warehouse stationery policy is to tell you to contact the manufacter,....nice one,.....the good old help line then bundle your entire box into a courier so someone in another city can have a look at it.

I pity the fool who walks into that "deal".

You get what you pay for,and thats all you get.

Rod J
02-06-2003, 10:50 PM
I've had a good look at the flyer, and I'd say it's a very good deal for the price, especially if it has an AGP slot.

Bazza
02-06-2003, 11:21 PM
Have many posters on this thread read the advertising for this PC deal?

It seems some have, and there are several favourable comments.

I wonder if anyone would care to comment on a statement on this thread like 'a cheap & nasty system restricted by a $2 mobo', and suggesting getting rid of the 'rubbish' microsoft software apart from MS-Word.

To be helpful for the original poster, is that fair, accurate & informed comment?

metla
02-06-2003, 11:55 PM
Bazza,there was more in my post then just that comment,but as it stands they are my view on that system and its software.

Many people out there would be more then happy with it as it stands.

I certainly wouldnt recomend the hardware or the software.

Perhaps your saying i should just agree with the other posters rather then forming my own opinion?

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

nomad
03-06-2003, 12:06 AM
true u get what u pay for. for most people even for myself if i am not too fussy and i can stand buying a setup box than building my own - it will suit them fine.

what do most people do? unless ur a ultra keen gamer. even for some gaming members have said an MX AGP card is fine thus this system will be acceptable. we cannot accept the best of everything. and hey, there's many things to quearm about other than a PC.

nomad
03-06-2003, 12:12 AM
i have a laptop P3 only. it does the job, i can email, surf, work, go online, dvd and occasionally do some photohop, scan, pagemaker and some website developments... its jus a tool. we don't all live in a mansion and drive exotic cars.. jus an individual thing i guess and how people set their priorities. but for the avg household its fine for work and the avg game.

one quearm, i would prefer a full intel soln. more stable, less fast u can argue but thats my priority.

~~~~~ s y ~~~~~
03-06-2003, 12:25 AM
I AM NOT trying to create a fight, but perhaps, metla, I suggest you use better phrasing, and better words. Currently, you don't sound very professional.

Yes, its good to have your own opinion, but definitely not in a way that they should all listen to you, because they're wrong and your right, like always, this query does not have a right OR wrong answer.

Instead of saying, "needless to say we ditched the idea quick smart" you could always say, "but we found it didn't suit our needs, therefore looked for other models on the market"

You say the software is rubbish, why? What do you use? For the majority of the people here, we would find the software more than 'excellent'. You also mention 'cheap'? But do you think of the millions of children out there in poverty, who would think of food, let along computers, as been 'cool and posh'.

Next time, think more about what you're saying. Why their are reader like Bazaa trying to change your attitude....

*sorry, I may seem not as welcoming, but I am very dissappointed that you have given this kind of comment to other users seeking help. after all, they wouldn't be asking if they knew*

Anyone interested in my computer(s) :p?

metla
03-06-2003, 12:44 AM
> I AM NOT trying to create a fight, but perhaps,
> metla, I suggest you use better phrasing, and better
> words. Currently, you don't sound very professional.
>
> Yes, its good to have your own opinion, but
> definitely not in a way that they should all listen
> to you, because they're wrong and your right, like
> always, this query does not have a right OR wrong
> answer.
>
> Instead of saying, "needless to say we ditched the
> idea quick smart" you could always say, "but we found
> it didn't suit our needs, therefore looked for other
> models on the market"
>
> You say the software is rubbish, why? What do you
> use? For the majority of the people here, we would
> find the software more than 'excellent'. You also
> mention 'cheap'? But do you think of the millions of
> children out there in poverty, who would think of
> food, let along computers, as been 'cool and posh'.
>
> Next time, think more about what you're saying. Why
> their are reader like Bazaa trying to change your
> attitude....
>
> *sorry, I may seem not as welcoming, but I am very
> dissappointed that you have given this kind of
> comment to other users seeking help. after all, they
> wouldn't be asking if they knew*
>
> Anyone interested in my computer(s) :p?

uh,they were my opinions and quite obviously ,my own opinions.The software is outdated and extremly limited to what else is on the market,as I stated I would remove it,i never said anyone else should.

The points i made are valid.

Its cheap,but you get what you pay for.
There is no customer suport.

I would steer clear of any system marketed by chainstores.

As to you not liking my style?

Tough,get over it,If you want to contest my points please continue to do so,if im wrong,point it out.

Since ive been visiting this forum i would feel i have helped out a great deal of people,or at least pushed them in a direction that may have helped there situation.

I do not apreciate your comments that i should post in a manner pleasing to you.

And what is this rubbish?


Instead of saying, "needless to say we ditched the idea quick smart" you could always say, "but we found it didn't suit our needs, therefore looked for other models on the market"

screw you buddy,ill say it as i see it.

Bazza
03-06-2003, 12:57 AM
of course some can form their own opinion, & do not have to agree with others, but what is their opinion worth, in regard to the question here?

We are talking about a Compac deal.. Many have recommended it, but one has rubbished it.

What is his opinion worth? Maybe he can support his opinion with facts, helpful information, and his experience with systems like this.

metla
03-06-2003, 02:47 AM
> of course some can form their own opinion, & do not
> have to agree with others, but what is their opinion
> worth, in regard to the question here?
>
> We are talking about a Compac deal.. Many have
> recommended it, but one has rubbished it.
>
> What is his opinion worth? Maybe he can support his
> opinion with facts, helpful information, and his
> experience with systems like this.


hmmmm,Baaaaaazza,what exactly(apart from turning this place into shortland st)is your agenda here?

Are you saying i only have the right to a different opinion once i have satisfied to you that i have the credentials to make one?

How bizarre and arrogant.Does everyone else have to go through the same rigoures testing or just the ones that you personally dont agree with?

What is my opinon worth?...The same as everybody elses.I suggest you find some other less petty way to fill your time.

If you see statements of mine you dont agree with,then say why,rather then making posts purely to attack my credability.

Thomas
03-06-2003, 07:41 AM
I agree with your comments Metla,but why so full of venom?

Terry Porritt
03-06-2003, 09:08 AM
This is OT and nothing to do with the current 'dispute' going on.

Dear sy, I must absolutely congratulate you on your command of English. Do you remember when you first came to Press F1 and various people misunderstood what you were trying to say? A few of us stood by you as we could see what the problem was.
Your sheer determination saw you through, and now you are a master.

Your P75 is a classic collectors item with a lot of history, I would keep it as a souvenir. :)
Best of luck.

robsonde
03-06-2003, 09:18 AM
as allready stated, its a good home system for the price and you get what you pay for.

from what I have been told the shop near me has sold 150 systems in only 5 days.

as for customer support:
it is a bit limited just as it would be if you got the system for bond & bond or such like.

the first line of help is an 0800 number to techs in auckland if they cant help then its back to the shop for repair or replace.

overall I would say this is a very good deal for beginers and small home users, it is NOT a gameing system.

Robbie O
03-06-2003, 09:58 AM
> I agree with your comments Metla,but why so full of
> venom?

From what ive read Thomas I think he learned it from you. I've not been here long and maybe i shouldnt say it but you have a sharp tounge yourself. I thought we south Islanders were meant to be friendly people? Why cant we all be nice to each other?

Robbie

Thomas
03-06-2003, 11:15 AM
Ha Ha Robbie,I only have a sharp tongue when wrongly accused.

lardass
03-06-2003, 02:52 PM
Now that's funny
$1100!!!
Just purchased a Celeron 466MHZ with 6GB hard drive and 128MB RAM for $210 off Trade Me site and that was my upper limit too re: price wise!!
Of course the seller didn't have the motherboard drivers which took several hours of web scouring to locate and get to work.

Graham L
03-06-2003, 02:54 PM
Compaq don't make equipment as solidly as they used to. They started by aiming to beat IBM on quality. But they still have standards. That "Compaq" brand has a value.

The price of this one is low .. probably because there will be a new model soon, and also because the Warehouse buys things by the container load, not by ones or tens. That lets them offer lower prices. They are not a computer specialist. That keeps their prices down.

Some "computer specialists" aren't computer specialists, and charge high prices. :D

The goods are still covered by guarantees. If a computer doesn't fail in a short time, it will run for a long time. If it's not being "fixed" and "improved" all the time. :D

Abuse, either of members here, or companies' business methods or products doesn't make for calm and rational discussions. It has no place here. It is totally pointless and a waste of time.

Thomas
03-06-2003, 03:12 PM
Good post there Graham,untill you decided to tell us what is good and not good,like you we old enough to decide.
Compaq was taken over by H/P was it not?

~~~~~ s y ~~~~~
03-06-2003, 05:37 PM
Hehe :) yea, I do remember, but I think metla does know a bit of computering stuff. To be honest, I started with about one or two computer terms, now, I can rebuild a whole computer :p

I do hope the original author of this thread has not ran away. I have seen many instances of this on this forum as other have, I, myself, have left and rejoined months later at times.

Hopefully, the original poster (sorry, I can't remember your name) will be able to decide for himself. We shall just let the "argument" go, forget about it..... No more.

P.S. Metla> You mention the phrase "screw you", is this appopriate here? Maybe you've come to the wrong place, we're here to help. You "feel" you have helped enough? I do not believe everybody does, we're also excited to be here, helping others out continually and also learning for ourselves, continually. I myself have learned a lot through this.

We shall all go for a walk :D

sandyb
03-06-2003, 10:44 PM
i always remember you get what you pay for!
and it depends on what you want it for!
I brought a similar deal comp and it was brilliant cause i was use to a 486
but inreality it has a lot of bugs and it is not what it should have been.
Over all though, it was all i could afford and i had had more than my moneys worth from it.
i wouldnt swap it for my 486 anyday...lol...!!!
(Its a athlon 1200).

Lohsing
04-06-2003, 12:09 AM
> From what ive read Thomas I think he learned it from
> you. I've not been here long and maybe i shouldnt say
> it but you have a sharp tounge yourself. I thought
> we south Islanders were meant to be friendly people?
> Why cant we all be nice to each other?

All turned to custard when the Blues beat the Crusaders... ;)

Lo.

Stumped Badly
04-06-2003, 02:11 AM
Keep buying those brand name machines folks, I make quite a good living from repairing them.
They are cheap for many reasons, as has been gone over here enough already.
They are a reasonable buy for the dollar but don't expect miracles.
If it needs any major sort of repair, be prepared to box it all up send it away & watch TV for 3wks to 3months.
If you want to do any sort of gaming, have an extra $150-$300 for a decent graphics card handy.
Don't expect any sort of decent backup from the store you bought from.
I've been asked to look at 2 of these this week alone.
One was locking up continually & the other kept shutting down sporadically.
But to be fair other new PC's can have problems also, not just Compaqs.
Another friend of my wifes bought one & wanted to hook up with his old HP for the kids to game on.
He went back to Warehouse Stationary & asked what he needed.
He was sold 2 network cards, an 8 port hub, a patch lead & 20m cat6 all for $260.00
I took them back on his behalf to return them & was told by the manager that the salesman was their top computer specialist, knew what he was doing & assured me I needed all the gear.

When I told him one of the PC's (the new pressario) already had an onboard NIC & that we only needed one card for the old HP & 20m of cat6 crossover & no hub or patch lead, I was told it would never work.
I got the money back, went down to Dicky Smiths, grabbed a card & some cable for $45.00 & an hour later we were playing UT on the lan.
A saving of $215.00
I wonder how many people actually get stiffed like this.

Chilling_Silently
04-06-2003, 02:33 AM
> I suggest you use better phrasing, and better
> words. Currently, you don't sound very professional.

Well, Im not proffffffessional, nor am I intending to pretend to be, but I still believe I know a lot, and am willing to share :-)

"Its not the size or your car austin.. its how you use it", and the same can be said for your knowledge.
Metla has provided some valuable insight on many occasions, and just because PressF1 doesnt have a grammar checker doesnt warrant that little speach.

As for Quality vs. Price, I work for a CyberCafe who are part of a Compaq FactoryShop program.
Things went a bit up the creek when HP took over Compaq, but things are back on track.

The PC's we use in the Cafe are all Compaq, except for the server we run which is an IBM PC which AFAIK was already owned before the shop started around 1 1/2 years back.

Now, my employers (Two ladies) have a Compaq and a Toshiba Laptop. I know the Toshiba laptop was purchased with the idea that 'quality is #1 and price is not much of an object', the IBM along the same lines...
Now, I can safely say that there is much less problems with the Compaq PC's which have customers using them all day every day doing who knows what on them, than the two laptops have!
Hardware-wise, we've had no problems at all, and Compaq are still a good quality company.

Now, which ever way you want to dice it, there's always a bigger fish out there, but the thing is do you really want it?

There comes a point where you simply have to say "I dont need it, my wallet will thank me later", and purchase the best you can for the amount of money you have.

I made a PC with what is supposed to be a rather cheap motherboard, yet Ive found it fine.. it hasnt melted on me, so it has to be good, right?

Anyways, that's my ramble for the night.. Im off to sleep :-)

Cheers


Chill.

Breezzee
04-06-2003, 06:34 PM
If anyone does buy 1 of these systems.....install Ad-aware & Spybot as soon as you can. I was given 1 of these new computers last night to set up for a co-worker. Installed the spyware programs once I had sorted out the common faults with preloaded systems & found lots (& I mean lots) of spyware.
Was possilbe that some arrived from being demo in store ? I don't know, but be warned.

Chilling_Silently
04-06-2003, 06:41 PM
Dont forget that you are getting spyware with IE 6 SP1 now, amongst other things...

Could just be that matey?