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Jen C
15-05-2003, 09:57 PM
I have my Parents old computer which has a dead hard drive. It is a Pent 75 MHz, 850 MB HDD, 64MB RAM. I was thinking of just getting a second hand small HDD as they only want it to play solitaire and other card games on it. However, after researching the motherboard - Elite Group (ECS) SI54P - AIO Rev 2.1, I found that the manufacturer website (http://www.ecs.com.tw/download/si54p.htm) has this to say about the mobo:

ELITEGROUP SI54 Serial motherboards are not compliant to Year 2000. This is a unsolveable limitation from the BIOS

Does this mean this mobo is going to cause more headaches that it is worth? I am thinking it might be best to just get a second hand box. The 15" monitor plug has only 10 pins - will this also cause compatibility problems with a newer box?

Thanks
Jen

tweak\'e
15-05-2003, 10:16 PM
just put the date back....eg to the year 1997 i think 1997 works ok.

however a 2nd hand pc is not a bad way to go. anything from 133-500mhz is cheap and will do everything they will ever want.

agent
15-05-2003, 10:16 PM
For playing card games, it shouldn't matter. Unless they're specifically worried about the date/time being wrong.

You could acquire an old Y2K-compatible mobo and a low-spec CPU for a very cheap price, and, depending on the mobo, the RAM should still work with it, as well as the HDD.

agent
15-05-2003, 10:19 PM
Oh, and you might care to try places like http://www.driverguide.com for a BIOS version that some disgruntled user may have made for themselves. Unlikely, but it could happen.

Chilling_Silently
15-05-2003, 10:29 PM
You guys make me feel guilty about the PC I gave my granny..
I was given a 386 (33Mhz I think) and I gave that to her.

Come a year down the track, it died, so I gave her a 486 DX 66 with 24MB RAM and a 220MB HDD.

Runs Win98SE quite well actually, and she was shocked that it had CD-ROM, especially when I gave her a CD along with it ;-)

agent
15-05-2003, 10:32 PM
Don't see quite how it makes you guilty.

Chilling_Silently
15-05-2003, 10:37 PM
...'upto 500Mhz'...

agent
15-05-2003, 10:44 PM
It's still less than one sixth of the processing power of today's CPUs.

tweak\'e
15-05-2003, 10:54 PM
>...'upto 500Mhz'..

>It's still less than one sixth of the processing power of today's CPUs.

you don't need a GHZ pc to surf the net and write emails. a cheap 2nd hand pc does the job fine.

one of the main reasons i see people upgrading at the mo is due to lack of support for win95.

Chilling_Silently
15-05-2003, 11:05 PM
Exactly, it prints to an old printer I got cheap.. it does cards.. plays music.. there's a 2.4K modem for her if she wants email (It wouldnt take my 56K one?) so why bother with a 3.06 Hyperthreading P4!?!

HadO
15-05-2003, 11:16 PM
It would be a good gaming system for old DOS games with Win98SE - an old SoundBlaster16 sound card would also be a good addition - were awesome cards back in the DOS days.

Chilling_Silently
15-05-2003, 11:21 PM
Still have a PNP16, and an AWE32 somewhere I think (Both ISA and un-used :().

We bought one for an ol' 286 with a 20MB HDD and 4MB RAM about 10 years back!

Man, it brought that thing to life!

Graham L
16-05-2003, 04:06 PM
Just set the date to 2003. :D The Y2K problem was just that when it reached midnight on Dec 31 1999 it didn't update to year 2000. Since the date doesn't go backwards, it won't matter. Microsoft distributed a number of OSs from about 1998 or so which were programmed to "know" that 2000 wasn't a leap year. Wrong. ;-)

The shortage of pins on the monitor plug is no problem. The manufacturers just saved some metal (and gold plating) by using pins only in the positions which actually have signals.

Jen C
16-05-2003, 04:38 PM
Thanks Graham

I decided to get my Parents a cheap PC for them to play on. I managed today to snaffle a Pent 2 400MHz with 128 MB RAM and a 3.2 gig hard drive. It also comes with a CD-ROM, 15" monitor, 56K modem, keyboard and mouse - a complete package all for a very reasonable price. It even works :D. I might even be able to convince them that the internet is not scary and get them online.

I will keep the Pent 75 MHz to experiment on as it is worth nothing $ wise.

Thanks everyone

Jen :)