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~~~~~ s y ~~~~~
30-04-2003, 11:25 PM
Dear all,

I have today been given a massive assignment for English. We are expected to make a professional production/presentation of William Shakespeare from a whole list of topics. I have chosen “William Shakespeare’s Life in Theatre”. However, the difficulties are yet to arrive…

I am choosing to go the extra miles, which means to create a full workable website. Thinking of this is giving me a nightmare, as I want the feature from some of the better sites I have seen. These include:

a) a moving object on entrance, flash or video/sound…
b) a forum which visitors can post messages
c) a chatroom which people can talk in

As I said, it won’t be used for a long long time, but needs to be good and bold, etc. I need it to work when the teacher goes there for marking.

I have had experiences making very very simple sites, so I know how to upload them, but I have no idea otherwise…. I am going to probably use Office XP Frontpage on Orcon server, to create my “masterpiece”…B-)

Anyway, if anyone could tell me where to start and how to make the 3 functions stated above work, then I’d really appreciate it, as we really do not have long. I would prefer if the entrance was a flash animation or something similar…. Basically I want the best! Please help with suggestions as to how to go about this…

Thank you very much in advance,

stu140103
30-04-2003, 11:34 PM
I can help you here, I will chat to you more about it on MSN

cyberchuck
30-04-2003, 11:36 PM
> I am choosing to go the extra miles, which means to create a full
> workable website. Thinking of this is giving me a nightmare, as I want
> the feature from some of the better sites I have seen. These include:
> a) a moving object on entrance, flash or video/sound…
> b) a forum which visitors can post messages
> c) a chatroom which people can talk in

Ok.. the Moving Entrance - that is easily done in FlashMX or Swish - and can be made interactive.. just download the 30 day demo and you'll be sweet for that... However both programs just use premade images and stuff, so you import your images, add your features, text, etc and then do what you want - so you might want to find some good images.

The forum and Chatroom will be your hard part. You will need to use a server which supports Dynamically Created Pages - either PHP, ASP, etc. You can find some free servers around, so if you are willing to setup an ASP page (pretty easy stuff), just go to www.brinkster.com (http://www.brinkster.com) and get a Free Account, then head off to www.hotscripts.com (http://www.hotscripts.com) and get a free ASP Chat Script... The same can go for the forum... - however, when editing pages, just make sure you edit the HTML and don't touch the ASP otherwise you will run into problems.

As for using OfficeXP Frontpage - just be aware that it is a WYSIWYG (What you see is what you get) HTML editor, you cannot make your Chatroom or Forums in there (well you could do the HTML side of things and just paste it over to the ASP Scripts)...

I would reccomend going to google and searching for "free website templates" - get an idea of some and then you can start work. Good Luck


CyberChuck

Jester
30-04-2003, 11:43 PM
Sounds a great idea sy :)

Just don't go too overboard with the presentation and whizz bang effects without ensuring you have done the research into the subject and have enough material to put on the site.

I remember at school spending all my time on 'title pages' (no, we didnt have PC's in schools then), and would fall down on actually researching and presenting substantial topic.

have fun though :D

J.

falcon
01-05-2003, 05:45 PM
Swf....

Flash will take a little while to get your head around..... and will do a whole lot more that you need....
Swish will do 80% of what flash will do... Swish rocks...

Chat rooms and forums...
These need database driven pages... dynamicly driven....

bit of a mission... specaily with access..... i wouldnt even bother.....

you can get little javascripts that will emulate a dynamicly driven page....
fo things like forums.....and guest books....
javascripts.internet.com
there are heaps of others... but my memory fails me....

Stick to static pages.... and focus more on content....
after all a website is a form of getting infomation across...

later

Falcon
http://www.easypeasypages.co.nz

~~~~~ s y ~~~~~
01-05-2003, 07:39 PM
Thanks all for replying, I really appreciate it....

First of all, apologies to stu *talk to you later...*

Now, I really, really honestly like the web template in Office Xp Frontpage, therefore, cyberchuck, I do not know what you mean....

I would really like the discussion board to function properly.... like in Frontpage, so far I have

http://www25.brinkster.com/wslitfc/index.htm

but whenever I try post or search it leads me to

http://www25.brinkster.com/wslitfc/_derived/nortbots.htm

so... what is this, how can I stop it and make it function properly.... please include details

Also, its meant to have the "bubbles" web theme in the background, but does not show up, why?

THANK YOU ALL SOOOOOOOOOO MUCH

cyberchuck
01-05-2003, 07:44 PM
Okay
Well the bubbles aren't loading because the page is looking for "http://www25.brinkster.com/_themes/bubbles/bubkgnd.gif" and that page does not exist! (hence the "bubbles" are not loading)
Would you be able to make a whole zip file of your website (all files and everything) then put the zip file up on your website... that means others will be able to see the entire website and change things so it works...

Thanks


CyberChuck

stu140103
01-05-2003, 08:12 PM
> Would you be able to make a whole zip file of your
> website (all files and everything) then put the zip
> file up on your website... that means others will be
> able to see the entire website and change things so
> it works...

I have to agree with cyberchuck here, then we can help you even more...

~~~~~ s y ~~~~~
01-05-2003, 08:20 PM
Thanks,

I have uploaded a zip file onto my other personal space

http://www.hitech.orcon.net.nz

When finished editing, please reply and tell me, and I'll arrange for it to be uploaded.

stu140103
01-05-2003, 08:25 PM
> I would really like the discussion board to function
> properly.... like in Frontpage, so far I have
>
> http://www25.brinkster.com/wslitfc/index.htm
>
> but whenever I try post or search it leads me to
>
> http://www25.brinkster.com/wslitfc/_derived/nortbots.h
> m
>
> so... what is this, how can I stop it and make it
> function properly.... please include details

The resign why you that is not working is because the account you have (free) does not have support for FrontPage extions which the message board & search uses,

If you want to use FrontPage extions I suggest that you sign up at tripod.com.

Also I can set you up a message board/forum for free & host it for free as well :)

~~~~~ s y ~~~~~
01-05-2003, 08:28 PM
Can you go on MSN?

Thanks,

stu140103
01-05-2003, 08:32 PM
> Can you go on MSN?

yeath, I will be on the account at 8.00pm :)

if that is ok???

~~~~~ s y ~~~~~
01-05-2003, 08:34 PM
COOL.... :D

~~~~~ s y ~~~~~
01-05-2003, 08:36 PM
might as well ask too...

if i host with you like we previously said, can I still use the Frontpage format, and have total control over it, i.e. upload, etc. And will YOU have control as in modifying it, etc.

~~~~~ s y ~~~~~
01-05-2003, 09:26 PM
stu, while youre emailing the host.... *i just found this in a install.txt file in phpmychat pack*

Requirements
""""""""""""

PHP 3.x or greater

A web server supported by PHP (Apache is most widely used)

A database with adequate support compiled into PHP


does this mean you might need to get a third database?

~~~~~ s y ~~~~~
01-05-2003, 09:28 PM
Ok, thanks to stu, I have the forum sorted.... he is also hosting it!

so, can anyone help with the following,

build a chatroom using phpMyChat just like the ChatF1 forum.
help me in designing a moving entrance

everything else i'll be able to do on my own! :D

thanks to all for your support,

~~~~~ s y ~~~~~
02-05-2003, 12:26 AM
sorry stu but I do not understand you by...

Stuart says:
I have some bad news for you

Stuart says:
I need to move host

Stuart says:
your forum will be http://virtualspectator.crediblehost.com/ hosted here

so will i not be able to have one of my own, instead having to use this one. Is it old, or is the date/time thing just broken...? Talk to you later on MSN

Thanks,

stu140103
02-05-2003, 11:58 AM
What I mean is,

You know I was going two hosts your forum on that other host (the one with the IP address).
I got the forum set-up (on the host which has IP address) but it was mirroring the 1st forum which I had really set-up.

So because of that, I will have to host it instead on this other host: http://virtualspectator.crediblehost.com

Sorry about that.

I hope that makes sense, if not I will chat to you on MSN.
Talk to you latter.

~~~~~ s y ~~~~~
02-05-2003, 05:47 PM
> I got the forum set-up (on the host which has IP
> address) but it was mirroring the 1st forum which I
> had really set-up.
>
> So because of that, I will have to host it instead
> on this other host:
> http://virtualspectator.crediblehost.com

Sorry, but I do not understand, that it might be better if we talk on MSN, I'll be on from now...

Thanks,

stu140103
02-05-2003, 05:59 PM
> > I got the forum set-up (on the host which has IP
> > address) but it was mirroring the 1st forum which
> I
> > had really set-up.
> >
> > So because of that, I will have to host it instead
> > on this other host:
> > http://virtualspectator.crediblehost.com
>
> Sorry, but I do not understand, that it might be
> better if we talk on MSN, I'll be on from now...

Can you come over to chat F1??? Because I cant sign in too msn messenger at the moment. I will be in room 2

stu140103
02-05-2003, 06:08 PM
I am going to ICE Now, so I will be back on the room or on MSN messenger around about 8.00 pm aprox

~~~~~ s y ~~~~~
02-05-2003, 09:42 PM
ok, I'm on MSN anyway, or if u can't sign in, just reply to this

stu140103
04-05-2003, 12:05 AM
Hello ~~~~~ s y ~~~~~

Just in case & as a backup plane or just in case we have more problems with our host (which we should not but just in case ;)),

I suggest that you put in a request in for free hosting here:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=32

This thread I had better luck with finding a host: (my user ID is stu17)
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=124419

If you are not too sure what to ask for,
Write something up (something like the above thread) then e-mail me it & I will let you know if that is ok if you want :)

We have two weeks that will give them some time to reply.

Like I said this is just a backup Plan :)

Note: they may nag/ ask why you don’t pay: to see what I mean see these three threads:

1. http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=124128

2.http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=123427 ( My first go at asking for hosting)

3. http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=122997

~~~~~ s y ~~~~~
04-05-2003, 09:16 AM
stu,

I have just joined up as member "newbiebuild". if anyone asks you to confirm whether you are friends with me and is working together, please say yes.

Otherwise, hows my forum going, has "tonight" in the USA passed...?!

~~~~~ s y ~~~~~
07-05-2003, 10:28 PM
Thanks to everyone who has offered support, especially to stu

*sorry about wasting your time*

I am please to say that I have completed my mission of making a chatroom and forum, all working nice and well, forum using Snitz Forum 2000 .asp format and pimps to setup. phpMyChat for chatroom.

I am now focusing on information now.... have 3 weeks left....confirmed!

Once again, thanks for your support

Sorry, I am not able to give you the link just yet, but will do when it has been marked.

Cheers,

stu140103
07-05-2003, 11:26 PM
He did not even need my help after all.

Well done :) doing it all by your self with out any help by me.

I hope you get a good mark :D