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johnboy
15-03-2003, 11:40 AM
could someone explain how to calculate the time it takes to download
ie. 330 mg on a 56 k dailup as a example . or is there a site to go to to do this..
thanks in advance ?:|

tweak\'e
15-03-2003, 11:53 AM
a bit of an open question. how fast do you download at and how fast can the server upload to you?

on a good connection your proberly looking around 20-24 hours.
most download managers will give you an estimite on the time it will take.

sc0ut
15-03-2003, 11:57 AM
if you want to use all of your bandwith to make it faster download a program called DAP
it is like connecting to the download 3 times and downloads 3 seprate parts at the same time (there for optimising your connection)

http://download.com.com/3000-2071-10127147.html?part=speedbit&subj=dlpage&tag=button

sc0ut
15-03-2003, 11:59 AM
oops on a 56k there is no true way to detrman yout download speed, not here in New Zealand atleast. some ISPs in USA give you a full 56k in newzealand it veries. and it is also determand on how fast the other computer is sending the information to you

utopia
15-03-2003, 12:04 PM
I've used DAP both on 56k and ADSL. Have seen NO improovements in download speed, but in my opinion, it's the best download manager.

tweak\'e
15-03-2003, 12:09 PM
> oops on a 56k there is no true way to detrman yout
> download speed, not here in New Zealand atleast. some
> ISPs in USA give you a full 56k in newzealand it
> veries.

i don't mean to be rude thats bull. most phone lines won't allow a full 56k speed anyway(and the states are restricted to 52 or 54 kbs). as far as isp's go it depends on if they get overloaded or not.

to determine actual download speed, download a compressed file (mp3 or movie) from a good server during offpeak times and use an app (either network analyser or dowload manager) to see the actuall speed you are downloaing at. repaeat a few times to get an average.

sc0ut
15-03-2003, 12:20 PM
i was reading a site and it said there cables support 64 Kbps.
the reson why they run at that is because of the ISPs T1 and T3
"A dedicated phone connection supporting data rates of about 43 Mbps. A T-3 line actually consists of 672 individual channels, each of which supports 64 Kbps."
So is this bull?
because most sites i've been to say that the lines are 56/64kbps
..........

roofus
15-03-2003, 12:25 PM
Scout this mutli-downloading you talk about, it is good if you are getting low speeds from a single connection, lets say you were only getting 2.5k hence by creating another connection you could therefore double it and get your 5k that your modem runs at.
however if you can connect to a site and download at 4.8k or above i would not recommend having multiple connections, this is because it brings in TCP/IP overheads, so while by making multi connections you might move from 4.8k to 5k it fails to take into account the added overheads.

sc0ut
15-03-2003, 12:31 PM
>however if you can connect to a site and download at 4.8k or above i would not recommend having multiple connections, this is because it brings in TCP/IP overheads, so while by making multi connections you might move from 4.8k to 5k it fails to take into account the added overheads.

wooow w8 what is this? i'v never herd of it and it kinda makes sence. i use DAP at home on my ADSL and sometimes at work with 10Mbps Fiber. how do i find out more info on this?

kiwibeat
15-03-2003, 12:42 PM
about an hour on 256 cable on 56k modem 15x as long depending on your line and speed fluctuations

tweak\'e
15-03-2003, 12:49 PM
>i was reading a site and it said there cables support 64 Kbps.

think adsl/isdn.

with reguards to multiable connections yes there is an overhead for each one. thats why you don't run 50 connections with a 5kB/s connection. with most good connections 2-3 is fine. what you lose in overhead you gain by having a more constant download. for slower eg 2-3kB/s connections a single connection is best. however if the site(s) is running really slow then you can simply add aother connection. however be warned, some sites do not like muliable connections and can dissconnect if you have to many.

bmason
15-03-2003, 01:45 PM
Dial up is around 20MB/hour assuming your getting a reasonable connection. Which would make it ~17hours.

johnboy
15-03-2003, 02:56 PM
thanks a lot have downloaded dap to try which was 1.66 mb and took 7 minutes at 46.6 kbps thanks

sc0ut
15-03-2003, 04:24 PM
;-) DAP is good but there is some spy where in there i THINK
a firewall or Ad-Aware will stop this
i have noticed the lates version has 3or4 connections, my verion allows upto 7 :-)

kiwibeat
15-03-2003, 04:27 PM
Flashget is even better than DAp

sc0ut
15-03-2003, 04:42 PM
off to download Flashget

sc0ut
15-03-2003, 04:50 PM
hay thats pritty cool
the true test will be when i get to work ;-) i wonder if with eathe of them i can get a full 10Mbpps on one computer

tweak\'e
15-03-2003, 04:54 PM
i perfer flashget myself but there are some tricks to it. install it in shareware mode (so you don't get the spyware) and if you have the fake cydoor spyware you may be in for a nice surprise ;-)

other tweaks you can seach pf1 for :)

tweak\'e
15-03-2003, 04:58 PM
> thanks a lot have downloaded dap to try which
> was 1.66 mb and took 7 minutes at 46.6 kbps

1.66mb in 7 min = ~3.9kB/s.
a logon speed of 46.6kb/s dosn't mean jack.