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fergie
26-01-2003, 05:38 PM
I'm planning on creating a website.
I don't no much (hardly anything really) of HTML - well - not enough to do wot i'm planning.

I once made a site with Geocities a few years ago, but tht was a bit limietd, and i already have my own webspace.
Now all i need is a What You See Is What You Get web page designer.
Anyone no wots good, and not good?

Wot is MS frontpage like?
cheers

tommy
26-01-2003, 06:00 PM
I would strongly recommend that you learn HTML, it is not that difficult. You are then able to take control of your own webpages, even if you still use a WYSIWYG editor. There are many very good HTML tutorials on the internet as well as books in the library to borrow.

1stPage 2000 is an excellent free HTML editor that includes a reference page to help you along.

sal
26-01-2003, 06:00 PM
im guessing the website your planning to make is gonna be a personal one of sorts, so nothing too flashy, well free comes to mind, so maybe AceHTML 5 (http://tucows.swko.net/preview/194452.html) might be a good look, cant comment on how good it is, but its been brought up in a few 'free wysiwyg' threads

theres also Composer, which comes with the mozilla (http://mozilla.org/)/netscape (http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp), which is a great little program

but if you want to know the best, imho, it would have to be DreamweaverMX, but only for the high end stuff, a bit excessive for maintaining a personal site,

dunno bout frontpage, was reading bout it in netguide, and they reckon its 'for larger sites', but im not too sure...

grtz sal.
tga

segfault
26-01-2003, 06:45 PM
> I would strongly recommend that you learn HTML, it is
> not that difficult. You are then able to take control
> of your own webpages, even if you still use a WYSIWYG
> editor. There are many very good HTML tutorials on
> the internet as well as books in the library to
> borrow.

I would also suggest that - I learn't HTML a couple of years ago and I find that WYSIWYG editors just don't cut if for me now. I always end up modifying the code by hand. Since learning HTML, I have also grapsed XHTML and CSS2 which I now use for all my web pages. Like tommy said, its not very hard to learn but you'll be much happier with the end result.

Baldy
26-01-2003, 07:01 PM
You can enrol in the HP learning centre, and get a free HTML course

http://www.hplearningcenter.com/

There is a HTML course starting soon - not sure if its full or not

BALDY:-)

blank_harry
26-01-2003, 07:20 PM
@fergie

Would have to agree with other comments posted here - learning HTML is a better bet but if time is of the essence then you can't go too far wrong with Composer which is bundled with Netscape/Mozilla v7.0x/1.2.

I found Composer useful, initially.

Then I followed my nose to lissaexplains (http://www.lissaexplains.com) and away I went, in a manner of speaking.

Also, webmonkey (http://www.webmonkey.com) is a fantastic resource as well.

fergie
26-01-2003, 07:32 PM
thanks all.
Yeah, i was hoping to start creating my site in the next few days - i've already 'brainstomred' it and planned it out, now i just need to create it...
so, i was planning to use a wysiwyg editor.
Where one of you said 'Front page' is for large sites - does tht mean sites with lots of pages.
Also, i've read tht some things aren't supported by FP or vice versa.
anyway, thanks for all help - i'll have a look at some of those progs and mite take up leaning HTML in my free time.
Also, tht HP learning centre - is tht all free?
cheers

tommy
26-01-2003, 07:49 PM
> Also, i've read tht some things aren't supported by FP or vice versa.

FrontPage is optimised for Internet Explorer browsers. Pages viewed in other browsers such as Netscape, Opera, Mozilla may sometimes look different to what was intended and seen using IE.

> Also, tht HP learning centre - is tht all free?

Yes, the tutorials are free.

mejobloggs
27-01-2003, 11:27 AM
1st page is not getting updated anymore, and their website hasnt changed since 5 September, 2002. And the people seem to have dissapeared. Go th tho forum and read about it.

Instead of 1st Page, try HTML Builder XP

It was made by a company who split, one made 1st Page, and the other did HTML Builder XP.

http://www.code-builders.com
They update their program regularly, and are still active.

somebody
27-01-2003, 11:52 AM
If you have the time, download a trial version (30 day trial) of Dreamweaver MX. It's a great program (except for the pricetag), but 30 days will be enough for you to have a decent play around with it, and create whatever webpages you want. Of course, if you plan to use it long-term, then pay for it (over $1000).

It is also available on some recent PC World CDs, and Netguide CDs (to save you downloading)

tommy
27-01-2003, 04:19 PM
> 1st page is not getting updated anymore, and their website hasnt changed since 5 September, 2002. And the people seem to have dissapeared.

That does not mean it is a bad program. It is very good.

> Instead of 1st Page, try HTML Builder XP

I would not say "instead of....", I would say try them both and see which is preferred.

Finerd
27-01-2003, 04:28 PM
learn HTML
use examples and copy paste code to and fro
I use this site for all my HTML
http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_examples.asp

stu140103
28-01-2003, 12:30 PM
> I'm planning on creating a website.
> I don't no much (hardly anything really) of HTML -
> well - not enough to do wot i'm planning.
>
> I once made a site with Geocities a few years ago,
> but tht was a bit limietd, and i already have my own
> webspace.
> Now all i need is a What You See Is What You Get web
> page designer.
> Anyone no wots good, and not good?
>
> Wot is MS frontpage like?

It is not bad for people who want to start out making there own websites that is how I started building websites.
The best WYSIWYG is Macromedia Dreamweaver!

> cheers

antmannz
28-01-2003, 02:38 PM
Dreamweaver costs so much tho.

I've just d/loaded Selida (http://www.amaryllis.8m.com/). It's a freebie WYSIWYG & code editor a-la Dreamweaver, but a little rougher round the edges. Seems to do the job tho :)

Susan B
28-01-2003, 03:09 PM
Selida looks good antmannz.... but what's the catch? You sure it hasn't got spyware in it? Sounds too good to be true, that's all. ?:|

fergie
28-01-2003, 03:32 PM
hi ya - thansk for all your advice/links etc
I've installed a trail version of Dreamweaver off a PCW cd.
I spent a while (3 hrs) doing a few tutorails - which is all ok, but when u start doing your own thing.... its just 'to big' and powerful i think for me, and a bit to complicated for wot i'm planning to do.
I have wot the site should look like all in my head - but i'll try a few other programs.
cheers

Chilling_Silence
28-01-2003, 03:32 PM
Im with 'somebody' on this (interesting name...)
Dreamweaver MX is excellent and poweful with changes updated in real-time.

There is a nice wee price tag on the end of it though (Well..Its not really a small tag).

Learning HTML is so much better though and I'd recomend that.

If you're stuck for cash though, Try MS Word!?

fergie
28-01-2003, 03:36 PM
yeah - i think i'll just have to keep at the tutorials for a while longer...
i hope it doesn't come to using word (arrrr - the bad memories....)

antmannz
29-01-2003, 03:54 PM
Nothing found after running Ad-Aware, SusanB