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Mike
22-12-2002, 09:14 PM
Red Cross bans Christmas in the UK... here

and ummm... not too sure what to say about this one :) here

Mike.

Clueless
22-12-2002, 10:24 PM
people are weird

.Clueless

-=JM=-
22-12-2002, 10:35 PM
hahhhahahahahahah

Bambi
22-12-2002, 10:51 PM
It's a Christian country for gods sake, whats this bloody world coming to.

-=JM=-
23-12-2002, 12:03 AM
Are we a Christian country?? I'm not, each to their own I reckon.

Clueless
23-12-2002, 01:43 AM
This was in the UK if i recall, which is more multicultural and multi religeous than we are. I would call this country "largely christian" as it seems christianity is the most common beleif system, but not the only one by any means.

.Clueless

cyberchuck
23-12-2002, 08:50 AM
hmm...
reckon the first one sounds painful...
I thought XMas was a universal thingy ?:|


CC

Clueless
23-12-2002, 10:16 AM
You recon the first one sounds painful??????

.Clueless

Graham L
23-12-2002, 02:26 PM
Xmas is specifically a Christian commercial festival. The Catholic church hijacked a lot of the old fertility/solstice ceremonies, and it grew from there.

Clueless
23-12-2002, 02:40 PM
And why we have pictures of snow scenes here in the Southern hemispere at the slightly delayed summer solstace celebrations i do not know.

Face it people, this is NZ, there aint going to be snow on the roof!

.Clueless

godfather
23-12-2002, 02:59 PM
Oh really? From the Web...

Climate

New Zealand has a temperate climate. Summer daytime temperatures vary from 10 - 25 degrees in the south and 15 - 30 in the north. Then again there are odd occasions where for example, Dunedin has had snow in December..

godfather
23-12-2002, 03:00 PM
But .... don't let Baldy see this thread! His sporran may freeze to his nether regions

Clueless
23-12-2002, 03:03 PM
OK... so it's not impossible to get snow, just very very unlikely, paticually in the North Island where most of the NZ population live for some reason.

.Clueless

Heather P
23-12-2002, 03:07 PM
I've been snowed on in the Nelson Lakes in January. But there again the blizzard wasn't exactly reminiscent of a snow filled scene with a robin singing merrily in the foreground.

So what should we have on a Christmas card then? Surf lifesavers in red togs?

Clueless
23-12-2002, 03:39 PM
>Surf lifesavers in red togs?

Thinks: *most of my female friends would prefer that!*

.Clueless

Graham L
23-12-2002, 03:40 PM
Or not in red togs. ;-)

Heather P
23-12-2002, 03:45 PM
Tut, tut Graham. How do we show the Christmas theme WITHOUT the red togs then?

<on second thoughts - perhaps I shouldn't ask>

Graham L
23-12-2002, 03:51 PM
Let's go back to the traditional celebrations. Totally approriate for the fertility rites. :D

Dyan
23-12-2002, 04:17 PM
Yep... hijacked is the word - made it easier for the conversion process. Anyway, for the neo pagans, summer solstice is over, and with over a billion christians in the world, Xmas Day will be acknowledged by most of 'em. Still, that's just under 1/6 of the globes population - the unchurched and the rest of us have other things to do...

Clueless
23-12-2002, 04:50 PM
Well Chick, it looks like yet another year where both of us leave the trees outside where they belong!
I'll email you soon.
.Chris A.K.A .CLueless

argus
23-12-2002, 08:59 PM
Errrm....and displaying a Red CROSS doesn't offend Muslims?

Clueless
23-12-2002, 09:06 PM
I think the red X would be ignored as a christian thing, in much the same way as we ignore the commandment about coveting, and other bibilical policys about greed and materialism, and cellebrate the biggest commercial guilt trip ever in the name of "God" and celebrate the Oester fertility festival, complete with the eggs, but ignore that it is a pagan thing because we have put "Gods" name all over it.

.Clueless

Heather P
23-12-2002, 09:14 PM
Well I dunno. We visited a couple of Muslim families the other day armed with boxes of chocolates. We said "Hi, how are you?" They said "Merry Christmas"... go figure...