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honeylaser
26-11-2002, 02:05 PM
Hi all

I'm in the middle of revamping the company website again, trying to get some better responses when searching with Google for one particular two word product. I have edited the meta tags to include all relevant keywords, and have included them multiple times in the body of the page but yet... when I search Google (and yes, giving the bots enough time to do their funky thing), 20 or so pages come up before ours. When looking through the source code for the rival pages, I don't see anything different - if anything, they skimp on the keywords and don't really have much info.

In short, how do I do it? Is there some magik way I don't know about to get on the good books of the Googles of this world?

I'll use the example product "Jim's Database Software". Say I have included the meta tag keywords "jim's database software management tools CRM enterprise" etc etc, and I search Google for: Jim's Database Software site:nz, why does it come up with 20 sites which have little or no relevance? They may only have the keywords "database software"..

Graham L
26-11-2002, 02:20 PM
I hear that the search systems are set up to watch for people trying to improve their scores, with abuses of the method you are using,;-) and take appropriate action. :-(
I'm pretty certain that the way to get your "relevance" score up is to get big numbers of links (on [i]other[/b] sites) pointing at your site.

gibler
26-11-2002, 02:28 PM
Google likes to keep the details of their ranking system under wraps.

Read some good info here though:

http://interviews.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/03/1352239&mode=thread&tid=95

honeylaser
26-11-2002, 03:13 PM
> I hear that the search systems are set up to watch
> for people trying to improve their scores, with
> abuses of the method you are using,;-) and take
> appropriate action. :-(

I've been making sure not to overdo it.. i.e I use keywords once only, and all repetition in the body text is just part of my article. I don't think thats the case.

> I'm pretty certain that the way to get your
> "relevance" score up is to get big numbers of links
> (on [i]other[/b] sites) pointing at your site.

Good point. Now I've just got to get someone to link to us!

sal
26-11-2002, 04:02 PM
apparently they also base your rank on how many links from other sites to yours there are, mm, well, thats what i was told

grtz sal.
tga

*ooh, i found it on slashdot...

>>>8) Favoring Big Guys
>>>by PenguinRadio

>>>Does google's policy of "ranking" the sites that have hits favor
>>>the "big guys" over more specific smaller traffic websites? That is,
>>>would a story on a site like CNN get a higher ranking in google on a
>>>keyword "Gulf War" than say a site (gulfwarveterans.com) that deals
>>>100% with the Gulf War? Do you think you are leading to the
>>>commercialization of the web (i.e. the big power players) over smaller
>>>sites?

>>Craig:

>>Hmm, everything I wanted to say here has already been said in the
>>Slashdot discussion on this question.

>>But in my own words: Google doesn't actually use traffic ("hit")
>>analysis in its rankings: the rankings are based entirely on how sites
>>link to each other. One consequence of this approach is that sites like
>>gulfwarveterans.com, which maintain a consistent focus on one issue,
>>are more likely to accrue lots of links than a transient news story,
>>even one on a major site.

>>Indeed, searching for "gulf war" on google turns up two Gulf War
>>veterans sites in the top 5, including gulfwarvets.com.

:)

sal
26-11-2002, 04:03 PM
argh, didnt read the other posts properly, sorry :8}

grtz sal.
tga