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vk_dre
05-11-2002, 09:15 PM
where does one buy domain names from, like for example,

http://www.vk_dre.co.nz, if i wanted this address how would i go about on acquiring it? how much would it cost and is it mine forever once i buy it?

Thanks in Advance,

cheers,
v.K

vk_dre
05-11-2002, 09:18 PM
and wot's the difference between xxx.net.nz and .co.nz?

thanks,
v.K

wuppo
05-11-2002, 09:27 PM
The 'standard' cost for a .nz is $44 + GST per year, with a one off fee of $30 + GST to become a 'name holder'. (The name holder effectively 'owns' the domain name - beware of discount name providers that say you don't need to be a name holder. If you are not the name holder for a domain, you may find you can't transfer it to a host of your choice).
There are 'discounters' around if you search, but I use registerdirect.co.nz They park your domain for free (or more correctly for payinfg the annual registration fee via them), provide you with pop/imap email accounts and URL redirection. You have full control over these features via a control panel.

A .co.nz name is intended for commercial operations, a .net.nz is more specifically used for network operations e.g. ISPs.

Have a look around domainz.net.nz - the NZ registry.

SoniKalien
05-11-2002, 09:33 PM
http://www.freeparking.co.nz

easy as, cheap as with them. I had no hassles. They even warned me about the Ozzie scam.

-=JM=-
05-11-2002, 10:11 PM
Register Direct (http://www.registerdirect.co.nz)
Free Parking (http://www.freeparking.co.nz)
Domainz (http://www.domainz.net.nz)

I'm looking at getting one my self. The cost is $49.95 for the domain but you may need to pay ~$30 for a new name holder fee with some places.

You need to pay the $49.95 each year to keep it. That will usually include basic URL redirection and email accounts. Hosting will cost more.

Heather P
05-11-2002, 10:24 PM
In the beginning you could register a domain name and not use it. This led to the squatters grabbing them then selling them off to the highest bidder.

To try and combat this the system changed so that you actually needed to tie your name to a couple of IP addresses.

Poeple like freeparking and 2day.com (based on the North Shore) came along and offered free parking of the name. They provide the IP addresses and don't charge you for hosting them until you actually activate the account by paying them money and uploading pages.

Their theory is that if they offer the free space the Law of Lethagy will see to it that most people, once they come to use the name, will leave it right where it is. They then make their money out of hosting your site.

You can always free park the name and, once you come to use it, transfer it to the host of your choice. If you already have a host in mind then you may be able to register the name through them and start using it immediately. Check out your proposed host's website for this. Just watch that you are the Name Holder so that you, not the host, are the registered owner of the domain name.

The Name Holder fee is a once off for you not the domain. If you register another domain name you are already a name holder so don't pay this fee again.

vk_dre
06-11-2002, 04:23 PM
thanks guys, but i'm still kinda lost, so if i buy the domain name, i have to pay each year for it to be kept active?

Graham L
06-11-2002, 04:25 PM
Exactly. TINSTAAFL.

SoniKalien
06-11-2002, 05:34 PM
It goes like this with freeparking:

You give 'em your name
You give 'em the domain you want
You give 'em your credit card.

Once it is approved, you log in to freeparking, and type the address of your web site that you want the domain to point to.

My domain is http://www.design4web.co.nz and currently pointing to http://pages.quicksilver.net.nz/ejnmare/

try it.

You do this every year.

SiK

Heather P
07-11-2002, 10:15 AM
Name holder fee - pay once to register yourself. Bill comes with first domain name.

Domain name(s) fee - pay annually. You will be sent an invoice for each name once a year. Pay it and the name remains yours. Don't pay it and the name returns to the pool of available names.

Clueless
07-11-2002, 10:38 AM
>and wot's the difference between xxx.net.nz and .co.nz?

.net.nz is much cooler
.co.nz is intended as commercail

mine are:
millerton.co.nz, which currently has a boring website which i can't wait to pull down and put up one of my P.A./lighting gear. you know the sort of thing... ooo look at all these huge stacks of flash looking toys, wanna play with them? Cost ya! (i just need the time to get photos and build a page)

something.net.nz which is down because that points to my own server which is down till i have the spare time to understand and fix it. something.net.nz was intended as a network of band related promotional material, and anything i felt like.

Both these domains are registered through interspeed and cost me $50/year

I have another couple they are in my name, but for other people.....

Clueless
07-11-2002, 10:42 AM
o yeah thats 50/year inc GST
which i think equates to the same as anywhere else

Interspeed had no problem pointing something.net.nz at my IP address, some of the people i contacted played dumb or refused, they were there to get a domain registered that they could then host (at a charge, of course)

.Clueless

Heather P
07-11-2002, 11:42 AM
All New Zealand domain names are registered with Domainz. You can either register with them direct (horrible site and you will need to have the IP address of your host sorted in advance) or register through a third party - like freeparking or 2day.com, xtra, ihug...

Some of the third parties make it dead easy, others more complex. Some will merely pass on the charge domainz charges them, others will add their fee to it (and not necessarily tell you about it!)

Some sites will also only charge you for the domain name NOT the name holder fee. Try to avoid this - it means the host then owns the name. If you then want to move your site to a different host you may find yourself locked in.

Places to visit to find out more:
http://www.domainz.net.nz/Domainz.asp
http://www.2day.com/home/index.cfm

2day no longer register names on your behalf but give you the instructions on how to do it yourself.

vk_dre
07-11-2002, 04:07 PM
thanks everyone. :)

-=JM=-
07-11-2002, 05:13 PM
So what about somewhere like Free Parking (http://www.freeparking.co.nz) which state

New Name Holder Account Fee (if no existing Holder ID) $0.00

is that good or not. ?:|

Clueless
07-11-2002, 07:37 PM
Domainz dropped the nameholder fee some time ago, there is no good reason i can see why an "agent" should still pass the "fee" on

.Clueless

-=JM=-
07-11-2002, 08:00 PM
This from Domainz (http://www.domainz.net.nz) Clueless ;)

New Domain Annual fee $44
New Nameholder Fee $30
New Secondary DNS Fee $18
Exclusive of GST

Clueless
07-11-2002, 08:04 PM
Bugger!!!!!!!

:8} Shows how long since i registered any domains! :8}

.Clueless

wuppo
07-11-2002, 08:17 PM
Domainz, themselves, is still charging the nameholder fee.

Quote:

"If you are a direct customer of Domainz, i.e. you receive your annual renewal from us, you should soon receive a 'postcard' detailing some upcoming changes.

In summary, the changes are as follows:

as from 1st February 2003, the new name holder fee (which only applies to new accounts) will no longer apply

as from 1st February 2003, the annual renewal fee will be increased from $49.50 to $61.87 (inc. GST) "


But it would appear that other .nz providers are no longer 'beholden' to Domainz. Quote:

"Following the implementation of the Shared Registry Service (SRS) on 14 October 2002, Domainz ceased management of the “.nz Register”. In some of the system-generated emails Domainz currently sends, reference is made to the .nz Register in the subject line. We are endeavouring to remove any references made to Domainz’ previous management of the .nz Register in our correspondence and also on our website."

godfather
07-11-2002, 09:48 PM
Some ISPs are offering to act as the party for annual registration. Xtra being one. Beware the massive price difference though, annualised its far higher than continuing to pay the (new higher) fee to Domainz, which you can still do.

SoniKalien
08-11-2002, 07:43 AM
<free plug=" http://www.freeparking.co.nz ">

I'm with Freeparking. They rock. They even sent me e-mail about the Ozzie domain name scam to forewarn me.

</free>

SiK

ain't html fun :D

wuppo
08-11-2002, 12:56 PM
But RegisterDirect (www.registerdirect.co.nz) gives you 10 x 10MB POPmail accounts against your parked domain, all for the annual rego fee.