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jacobdouds
21-08-2002, 03:29 PM
Hers a challenge, every anti-virus you install conflicts with one other during installation and asks wether you would like to uninstall it.
Most, you can continue with, but
PC-cillin conflicts with Norton, and won't install with it there.
Does anyone know a way a can trick it so i can install them both?
For example, does uninstalling Norton, installing PC-cillin, and reinstalling Norton work? or will norton also refuse installation?

Lohsing
21-08-2002, 04:16 PM
Why the heck would you want 2 different anti-virus progs when one is fine? It's like wanting 2 tyres for a unicycle... you only need one.

jacobdouds
21-08-2002, 04:22 PM
2? what are you joking? I have 8.

No, seriously, i collect programs, my current project is anti-viruses.

Im not stupid enough to have all their auto protects running, I only 'use' norton.

But I uninstalled norton, and then pc-cillin complained about mcafee, its a never ending spiral, so ill leave that one out.

Heather P
21-08-2002, 04:26 PM
If you're living in paranoid fear of viruses the best thing to do is back up regularly and keep your disks off site.

You are more likely to have a hard drive failure than contract a virus if you use one decent anti-virus program, install OS updates and keep your eye out for virus like symptoms (eg 2 emails from the same source at the same time, a love letter from the boss, an email telling you to install a program to prevent problems...)

Heather P
21-08-2002, 04:26 PM
Give up. Collect stamps.

Graham Petrie
21-08-2002, 04:33 PM
There are much better things to collect than useless apps you a) never use, and b) clutter your hardisk and make you PC unstable.

If you have to collect something digital, make it mp3's or jpegs or something. Collecting programs is loony!

G P

jacobdouds
21-08-2002, 04:44 PM
im not paranoid, and all collections are loony to someone, this is what ive choosen to collect, would you like to hear what ive already stored up on this computer? no, so, just answer the question if you may, but ive given up on that, ill just hold the install file for it.

Terry Porritt
21-08-2002, 04:47 PM
If you want a second AV, why not try the dos based F-Prot?
You can fit the program and signature files onto 2 or is it 3 floppies to disinfect a computer from the write-protected floppies. The program and updates are free, and it can also be run from your C: drive preferably in pure dos, but also from a dos window. It's purely manual, but offers a second line of defence.

Either:http://www.f-prot.com/index2.html
Or ftp://ftp.complex.is/
Also available a version for Linux.

jacobdouds
21-08-2002, 04:52 PM
yes ive seen this one around but havn't got it yet, thanks for been supportive to my collection, and it will be my: 8th, im slowing filling it up, I still need
panda
sophos
and pc-cillin installed
and a couple others around

Graham L
21-08-2002, 04:59 PM
This was a reasonable question. It is sensible to have a number of programmes which do "the same thing" in different ways. You want to use only one at a time, but you should be able to install the damn things.

The reason could be that the manufacturers assume that all users are incompetent fools. They might even be right. ;-) Running two antivirus programmes at once is likely to cause problems. And they find the level of "support" they provide costs enough without having users who work on the principle "if one is a Good Thing, then two or three must be a Much Much Better Thing".

I've got a good collection of programmes too. I've got a pretty good collection of Operating systems. And computers ... But I've never collected stanps. Or phonecards. Tastes vary.

jacobdouds
21-08-2002, 05:04 PM
yay, another collector, ive finsihed the operating system one, but i can't be bothered making multi-boots, so i jsut keep the installs.

Ive got windows 1 would you believe it? Thats even older then 3.0, and ive left out NT, as I got lost during the many versions of it.

I do see your point on the level of support they must give, but maybe atleast it could be like the rest, and let you install anyway if you understand the risk and know how to use regedit and msconfig

As a linux partition to actually use, what linux do you recommend? There are so many, but some are bigger known then others, what would be best?

Graham L
21-08-2002, 05:14 PM
Red Hat is what I like best, because it's what I use most. It's what has been on most Australian magazine cover CDs, since the English computer mags became too expensive for me. I've got a couple of boxes with an early Slackware. I never managed to get CorelLinux to load. I've had some of the European ones (not SuSe) going. People seem to like Mandrake.

But all the distributions are Linux. They all work.

Heather P
21-08-2002, 05:17 PM
My apologies for doubting the merits of a serious collector. I started the reply before you're second post was posted. By the time I finished and posted my own it was seriously out of date.

<Now... where's the nearest stamp site? ... have those 4 stamps increased in value from $500 20 years ago? Heads off into the ether to find out....>

kiwibeat
22-08-2002, 09:01 AM
I too collect programs have done so since my atari 600XL days , still have boxes of old games and 3 1/2 and 5 1/4 floppies lol be museum pieces in a few years .
Try pestpatrol its really a anti trojan adware program but very good ,I also recommend fix-it and Diskeeper for defraging your HDD

Gorela
22-08-2002, 10:37 PM
Hi Jacob,

If you are VERY serious about wanting to be able to run a large number of anti-virus programs you could use an expensive program like VMware (approx $500-$600). This allows you to run a number of different operating systems as by creating virtual machines. You need a reasonably large hard disk and RAM to get the benefits.

VMware would allow you to have a number of virtual pc's running their own operating system and their own anti-virus programs. Perhaps that way you could have both the anti-virus collection and the operating system collection all running and on the same pc.

If you're interested you can sign-up for a 30 day trial at http://www.vmware.com and see if it is any good for your purposes.

Kernal_Klonk
23-08-2002, 12:29 PM
If you want to collect some more AV progs such as Panda..... usually they have them as 30 day trials etc on the web sites. I have got a whole selection of them on computer magazine cover disks (although I have never installed any of them.

KK

Baldy
24-08-2002, 06:32 PM
What other gems of programs have you collected......

Run the Belarc Advisor, post the results, and give us all a gizz

BALDY ;-)

Jack Jackson
24-08-2002, 08:25 PM
I to, still have my old Atari (ST FM) I keep it for a couple of games that I love. yeeppppp yep yep