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Sam H
07-07-2002, 10:42 PM
How about us being able to see who is online and some form of private message service would be good, hey even a chat room.

:) Just some thoughts.

-=JM=-
07-07-2002, 11:03 PM
They've all been mentioned before and the general concensus was that it is not really needed.

If need be we could always set up a PressF1 IRC channel :

Elwin Way
08-07-2002, 12:10 AM
Perhaps SusanB can make a new FAQ: 'What can I suggest to improve the PressF1 forums?'

:^O

Iris
08-07-2002, 09:43 AM
Don`t think you can improve what is already so good (can you???)

Was wondering tho` if it is possible to get "printer friendly" options. Like to print out quite a few of the suggestions and the FAQ`s. for reference.

Hope everyone has a good day. It surely is getting water logged in The Heart of Kiwifruit Land

Iris

:^O :^O :^O

Graham L
08-07-2002, 04:54 PM
Quite right Iris. :-) It's puffick. :D :D :D We're puffick. ;-)

Susan B
08-07-2002, 06:18 PM
> Perhaps SusanB can make a new FAQ: 'What can I
> suggest to improve the PressF1 forums?'
>
> :^O


*snort* Do I have a reputation or something?? :D

Graham L
08-07-2002, 06:24 PM
"XXXX" at the end of your postings might be misunderstood. People don't read explanations. There's no such thing as bad advertising ...

Reputation? The word is notoriety. ]:)

Susan B
08-07-2002, 06:38 PM
> Was wondering tho` if it is possible to get "printer
> friendly" options. Like to print out quite a few of
> the suggestions and the FAQ`s. for reference.

Iris, don't know if you'd be interested or not, but what I do when I want to save a thread or something for reference, is to use my mouse to select the text, copy it and paste it into a Cardfile program that I've got.

Before Cardfile I used a Press F1 Word document and after copying the information in I would allocate a Heading1 style to the topic header. That way I could create a Table of Contents at the beginning of the document which provides links for me to click on and jump straight to a topic.

Using this method means that I can save heaps of info without having to print everything and amass a mountain of paper. In time a lot of the info passes its Use By date as I become more knowledgable or no longer require the information and the file gets a regular purge. At any time I can easily print out a few pages of any topic if I need a copy in my hands to refer to.


> Hope everyone has a good day. It surely is getting
> water logged in The Heart of Kiwifruit Land

My parents live in Papamoa and my sister at the Mount so I bet they've had enough of the wet stuff. We had an absolutely gorgeous day down here in ChCh after Jack Frost packed his bags. :-)

robo
08-07-2002, 06:47 PM
Yes, it is too soon to start suggesting.

I reckon the voting thing off PC World's main site but with more frequent topic changes and weirder questions.

Ones like:

- do you wear your best underwear when you upgrade your PC?
or perhaps
- can your PC sense when you are stressed?

robo.
(trying to cut down on the drugs but they don't appear to be working)

Susan B
08-07-2002, 06:50 PM
> Reputation? The word is notoriety. ]:)


Graham....

"Notoriety: the quality or state of being notorious"

"Notorious: 1. well-known, 2. widely but unfavourably known or talked about"

I thought you were my friend. :-(

You've spoilt my day now. :_| :_| :_|

John W
08-07-2002, 09:45 PM
Suggestions - being able to sort by Topic Title, User Name, Date & Time Topic introduced, something like that on Trademe.

A few years back, this was a really good site for learning matters PC. Today there far to many offbeat questions, like "Wet sunday", "And todays Word is". It apears this site is becoming infected with these rubbish type topics.

Thanks for those compiling the FAQ's. Suggestion, edit scroll & save the FAQ, save into Wordpad and save as the FAQ topic.

Billy T
09-07-2002, 01:32 PM
Hi John

I'm sorry that you are displeased with the occasional off-topic excursion. It is the friendliness and good humour of the participants that keeps us coming back to Press F1 to read the posts and try to help.

God forbid we ever become one of those forums where everybody calls themselves by weird names like T3Mp[], glutamine83, F**KeMaLL or voicumebunu. (These are all names I just picked up on another "almost reasonable" forum that I occasionally visit.)

With those sorts of names often come cryptic responses only understandable by people who wouldn't have needed to ask the question in the first place, and sometimes unreasonable attitudes to newbie questions. Not always, but often enough to flavour the overall picture and colour the experience.

Let's not pretend here, I'm probably as guilty as anyone of drifting off topic ,and WFTD or WFTWE are my personal babies ]:). I enjoy a bit of moderated lunacy once in a while, it keeps me sane!

I guess since this is a Forum I ought to offer some advice, so I suggest that if off-topic excursions offend you, just don't read them. There are plenty of other posts to get into and offer advice on. Just keep coming back because Press F1 is worth it.

Cheers

Billy 8-{) :D

Graham L
09-07-2002, 02:33 PM
Susan, you can take your pick of meanings 1 or 2. I didn't use a really derogatory word like "celebrity". :D

Iris
09-07-2002, 03:54 PM
Thanks for that advice Susan B. Am off to try it out now.

Not the cleverest of people but if I follow your instructions, which as usual are pretty easy to follow (how do you do it?) I should manage it.

I never cease to be amazed at what I learn from this page.

We live up in the hills of Te Puke and believe you me we have definitely had enough rain.

As you can see I`m getting quite good with the emoticons

Regards,
Iris

:D :D :D

godfather
09-07-2002, 04:19 PM
I support Billy in the matter of variation from the technical.

Without a human aspect (which includes humour) the forum would be daunting to newbies and a cold uninviting environment

Susan B
09-07-2002, 09:30 PM
John W, do you play sport or are you involved with any kind of (team) sports?

If you are then surely you would understand that half the attraction of team sports is the socialising aspect of it. For instance, how many people play a game of rugby or golf or tennis and then bugger off home straight after the game instead of hanging around the clubrooms?

Very few, I bet.

The guys who have coached my son's rugby team over the last few years are quite vocal about the fact that Club Night is only every second Saturday. They say it's almost the best part of the whole coaching thing and wish it was every week.

And so the socialising is with us Press F1 regulars. When I first got internet access and Press F1 was a baby I spent a bit of time here, learning and trying to help, but after a while I found another (US) computer forum with excellent help along with a great camaderie amongst its members. Consequently I transferred my interest there instead of PF1.

At the end of last year I happened to look in on here again and discovered that things had changed a bit. Robo had taken over as moderator and it was now more friendly, less sterile and there were a great bunch of regulars who gave me a good laugh, so I came back.

A few of the wits have left but fortunately most are still here and have been joined by a few more. If you stick around long enough you'll find that a handful of the most knowledgable computer people on this forum are also the funniest (if your sense of humour is as warped as ours, that is).

You'll also find that the "chat" isn't at the expense of helping people - if someone's post isn't answered it's because no one has an answer. No one gets ignored on purpose. Also, I have found quite often that the chat starts up because it is quiet and there isn't anything to help with.

Anyway, the day these guys are gagged on this forum is the day you don't see me for dust. You know the saying: if you can't beat 'em, you gotta join 'em. :-)

Susan_B
09-07-2002, 10:06 PM
Oh yea, I'm also pretty verbose.

You see, I get offended when people like yadda yadda yadda ...

:^O

segfault
09-07-2002, 10:48 PM
To be honest, I don't like the new forum and didn't like the old one either. Can I recommend that PC World look at some pre-written BBS software such as YaBB? http://www.yabb.info/ I've used it on numerous sites and it seems very scaleable. Thats one problem I have with the existing forum software here - its not scaleable and already it seems that there are too many posts.

Susan B
09-07-2002, 11:11 PM
> Oh yea, I'm also pretty verbose.

Yeah, it was a bit, eh? Sorry about that, I got carried away...

tweak\'e
09-07-2002, 11:15 PM
actualy one of the other forums i frequent(tho its quiet at the mo) was using yabb. unfortunatly it seems the posts are stored as text files and the database keep getting corupt. they had to change it so it now running http://www.ikonboard.com/ don't ask me what the diff is between them but so far it hasn't crashed and is ment to easier to restore if it does (so i'm told).

-=JM=-
09-07-2002, 11:33 PM
> To be honest, I don't like the new forum and didn't
> like the old one either. Can I recommend that PC
> World look at some pre-written BBS software such as
> YaBB? http://www.yabb.info/ I've used it on numerous
> sites and it seems very scaleable. Thats one problem
> I have with the existing forum software here - its
> not scaleable and already it seems that there are too
> many posts.

ummm this is pre-written BBS software and has been modified suitably by the staff at IDG.

They did look at the yabb software as well as phpBB and others. If you were around in the old forums all that much you would have seen some threads about suggestions for the new software.

They chose this software for quite a few different reasons. One of which is the platform that it runs on.

segfault
10-07-2002, 01:56 PM
Bah, they need a real http server :P

Tweak'e, they were probably using the perl version of YaBB (Which is the original) I gave the link for thr MySQL/PHP version. All the posts are stored in a MySQL database so backups are easy an they don't get corrupted very easily. The MySQL/PHP version is also very very fast (When compared to the perl version)

Biggles
10-07-2002, 02:39 PM
> To be honest, I don't like the new forum and didn't
> like the old one either. Can I recommend that PC
> World look at some pre-written BBS software such as
> YaBB? http://www.yabb.info/ I've used it on numerous
> sites and it seems very scaleable. Thats one problem
> I have with the existing forum software here - its
> not scaleable and already it seems that there are too
> many posts.


Could you pelase clarify that. How do you know it is not scalable? What do you mean there are too many posts?

John W
10-07-2002, 05:47 PM
To Susan B, well no I don't play a Team Sport, (Glory by association but not any particular effort) For my exercise I prefer solo and group MTB rides where everyone take their turn equally in front while the others rest in the draft.

But, I'm also on my sons Soccer team committee, and school swimming pool committee, neither of which socialize that much, apart from the meetings themselves. From what I have seen at Rugby, Soccer, Squash & Motorcycle club socials over the years, its a great source of marraige disharmony/breakups, drunk driving convictions.

Still stick with my assertion, that there are too many off topics on this Site.

Cheers....John.

Graham L
10-07-2002, 06:05 PM
John, you don't have to read "off topics". Some of us like to leaven the mix with a little levity. ;\

It is a Bad Idea to take computers or their software too seriously. :_| That way lies madness. :p :D B-) ?:|

segfault
10-07-2002, 06:55 PM
> Could you pelase clarify that. How do you know it is
> not scalable? What do you mean there are too many
> posts?

Just look at what is happening now. I have to go through 4 or 5 pages of posts just to find the post I'm looking for. Now think of more people using PressF1 - It will be even harder to find the post your more interested in (Yes, I could keep bookmarks and all the rubbish but I don't have to with other forums) To best fix this with the current forum software, I would suggest splitting the whole forum into a number of different topics - You don't need off-topic stuff getting in the way of important questions.

-=JM=-
10-07-2002, 08:53 PM
> > Could you pelase clarify that. How do you know it
> is
> > not scalable? What do you mean there are too many
> > posts?
>
> Just look at what is happening now. I have to go
> through 4 or 5 pages of posts just to find the post
> I'm looking for. Now think of more people using
> PressF1 - It will be even harder to find the post
> your more interested in (Yes, I could keep bookmarks
> and all the rubbish but I don't have to with other
> forums) To best fix this with the current forum
> software, I would suggest splitting the whole forum
> into a number of different topics - You don't need
> off-topic stuff getting in the way of important
> questions.

umm there are watches which you can use to keep track of a certain thread. Also in your profile it is possible to adjust the amount of posts/threads per page.

I also recommend viewing in flat mode as this means that the most recent post in a thread is at the end of the thread.

Billy T
10-07-2002, 09:42 PM
Hi Seggy

No offence mate, but you'd be a bit of a loser if you have to wade back through that many posts to find what you want. Press F1 has a great search function so if you can remember what the post you want was all about, you can search for it. Strikes me that if you couldn't remember what a post was about, you wouldn't be looking for it anyway. :D

Now! Press F1'ers with the smarts copy the posts they want as soon as they read them then paste them in notebook. Some (like Susan B, maven of the organised brigade) use a cardfile format. Myself, being a somewhat disorganised male, I use Notebook and have a directory called F1-Advice into which I save each clip with an explanatory file name. Takes seconds. Sweatless. :)

I just don't understand your problem, however the solution is simple. If Press F1 offends you that badly, just go inhabit the forums that suit you best. We don't mind, honest. :D

Heck, we probably won't even miss you!

Cheers

Billy 8-{)

Elwin Way
10-07-2002, 09:59 PM
:^O

Once again your finesse shines through, Billy!

segfault
10-07-2002, 11:24 PM
> I just don't understand your problem, however the
> solution is simple. If Press F1 offends you that
> badly, just go inhabit the forums that suit you best.
> We don't mind, honest. :D
>
> Heck, we probably won't even miss you!

See ya.

You don't know what you've missed :P

Graham L
11-07-2002, 04:13 PM
Perhaps we do. ;\ I suspect he's a 1st year computer science student. :O