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12-04-2002, 02:03 PM
i want to lay a small network between just computers, but they are quite far apart. Crossover cables are expensive and don't seem to be long enough is it possiable to make a crossover cable from standard 10BaseT Cat 5 cable?

if so how easy is it to get the cable into the 'RJ-45 Crimp Plug'?

12-04-2002, 02:17 PM
If you don't have access to a crimp tool for the RJ-45 connector, forget trying to fit your own, otherwise it is quite simple fitting the plugs. Have you looked at <www.trademe.co.nz> ? Use the search facility for 'crossover cables'. There are always cables upto 30m for sale - or can be made to your requirements.

12-04-2002, 02:17 PM
How far away are the computers?

There is a limit as to how far apart they can be.

All the gear to do it could probably be bought from DSE.

JM

12-04-2002, 03:19 PM
I just made one 20m long for the cost of 5 plugs (you buy them in fives for $10) I got the cable for free froma local electrician (When they get to the end of a roll, there nis always 10-50m of cable left which is too small to be of any use to them so they throw it away.

I borrowed a crimping tool from the IT technician at my local university.(I am a student however).

Getting the cable into the plugs takes all of 5 seconds as long as you prepare the cable first by aranging the wires in the correct order, and taking care to get the length of the unsheathed wires correct (about 1.5cm) and make sure the wires are cut perfectly level with each other. If you are going to ba\orrow a crimp tool, and need to take the cable to it rather than take the tool home, then crimp the plug onto the main cable using a screwdriver to press the plastic down. This will j\keep everything in place during transit. Don't try this with the brass pins unless you wnat to ruin your plug.

G P

12-04-2002, 04:35 PM
You don't need to do any crimping or make new cables. Simply get a normal utp cable of the appropriate length, then add a crossover converter to the end. Should be albe to get one from Dick Smiths - that's where I got mine.

12-04-2002, 05:31 PM
thanx for the help

i think at a guess the distance would be about 30m, goin under the house this weekend. Michael's idea sound the best and the least hassle, i did have a look at dse's website and the longest there cross over cable went to was 10m definatly too short, might have to make a trip into town to see what they have.

12-04-2002, 11:52 PM
<http://www.dragonpc.co.nz/pnet.htm>

cross over cable adapter $8.00

JM

13-04-2002, 11:48 AM
If you want to know how a cross over cable works or how to make one check out the following link... Real helpful

http://www.duxcw.com/digest/Howto/network/cable/cable5.htm

13-04-2002, 11:48 AM
If you want to know how a cross over cable works or how to make one check out the following link... Real helpful

http://www.duxcw.com/digest/Howto/network/cable/cable5.htm

15-04-2002, 08:31 AM
I had a look on the Dick Smith website for the crossover converter I mentioned - couldn't find it.

But just so you know they exist, found one at the Advantage Computers website (Based in Palmerston North, deliver Nationwide though). Try http://www.mallnz.co.nz/sites/advantage/ , under 'Cables and Accessories' and look for 'UTP Crossover Adapter' on that page. Cost is approx $8. Much more cost-effective than getting crossover cables made up every time you need one.