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kioti
07-06-2019, 12:14 PM
Hi. I am getting low on available space in both the Corsair Force MP300 M.2 SSD. C Drive and the Samsung Evo 860 500GB SSD Storage D Drive. 73GB and 117GB respectively so I thinking about adding in another drive, 1TB capacity. The new addition will have to be Sata 3 because the Motherboard has only 1 x M.2 NVMe Socket 3.
Thinking about getting one of these 2, a Seagate FireCuda 1TB 64MB SATA3 Solid State Hybrid Drive 1TB SSHD $130..or the 2TB $180.
Or this: Samsung 860 Evo 1TB SSD $245 (non-NVMe)
The other option gets pricey and would entail my cloning all C Drive to a new 1TB M.2 NVMe drive, using that as C drive and still have the 500GB Samsung Evo 860 500GB SSD as D Drive.
That option is to get one of these: Samsung 970 PRO 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD $549.00...or... Intel 760P Series 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD $349.00 ( Intel $200 cheaper than the Samsung?? wonder why that is)
I could free up space in both the drives I now have by moving data to an external USB HDD but I will consider that later. I have a lot of stored programs and installers/game installers and lots of other data stored on the external HDD's I have that which are now,basically out of date. So I could spend a few hours going through the 4 external HDDs and deleting a lot.
But the thread is about getting Hybrid HD.

Thanks

Asus Prime B450M-A./ AMD Ryzen5 2400G./ GSkill FlareX DDR4 16GB 2933 (@2400MHz.)/ Radeon RX580 Nitro+ 8GD5./ Corsair Force MP300 M.2 SSD./ Samsung Evo 860 500GB SSD./ Corsair HX750 PSU./ W10 x64 Pro v1903

Bryan
07-06-2019, 12:36 PM
Other than access speed of the SSDs why have so many. Personally, I think (and I stand to be corrected) you would be better off to get mechanical HDDs to store your programs on within the PC. For quick read and writing sure use the SSD, but if the programs do not need access often, they are better stored on the slower HDDs.

piroska
07-06-2019, 02:37 PM
Seagate FireCuda 1TB 64MB SATA3 Solid State Hybrid Drive 1TB SSHD $130..or the 2TB $180.
Or Samsung 860 Evo 1TB SSD $245



Seems easy to be.
The 2TB for $180.

Or better yet:
https://pricespy.co.nz/shop.php?f=23707

$152.

dugimodo
07-06-2019, 03:10 PM
The hybrid drives are pretty good if you want to install frequently accessed programs on the drive, if it's just for storage and media files then get the 2TB.

Where the hybrid drives really shine is when you can only afford or fit a single drive and can't afford an SSD large enough. They boot almost as good as an SSD for a fraction of the cost.
When it comes to copying files on and off though they are not better than standard hard drives. Only frequently accessed content ends up cached on the SSD portion.

For me personally I have an NVME SSD as a boot drive with a few games also on it, a 1TB SSD for my Steam library, and a 2 TB WD Blue for anything that doesn't fit on those 2.
The games I play off the WD Blue are just fine, it's really not an issue.

Plus they are not much over $100 https://www.pbtech.co.nz/category/components/hdd-internal?fs=8971917&o=lowest_price

kioti
07-06-2019, 08:50 PM
piroska,
yep I go for that 2TB option myself.
your link to pricespy didn't show any drives, was only a page of accolades and comments saying how awesome and speedy service pricespy is. I will google pricespy shortly and see what comes up.
cheers

kioti
07-06-2019, 09:29 PM
dugimodo
hi. thanks. that 2TB WD Blue looks a good price indeed.
yeah I use the Corsair M.2 NVMe as boot drive and the Samsung SSD as a storage device, originally meant to be for instal Games and Programs. I have one game I play daily, called Sniper Elite 4. It uses 67GB Data space on the NVMe drive... that's a massive amount of size for a computer game! I have yet to instal MS Office 2019 and that will be a large space user if it is anything like the MS Office Pro I had before, from memory it was 2016..or 2018. That was 50GB - 70GB.
Prior to my using SSD's I was all mechanical HDD's and had Sata 1TB Boot drive for all apps/games/ movie editing compiling files, and for downloads and all sorts. Also I had at least 1x2TB and 1 x 3TB Sata HDD's all internal. They acted as working drives for digital work editing movies/creating H264 .mkv's and adding subtitles in English and Spanish and videos from webcams etc to be compiled and transcoded and burned to DVD So, the 250GB NVMe I have is limited and I need some other intermediary HDD storage/working drive/s.
I do have 3x Sata HDD's here and I could be connecting them to see what's on them. I only had 4 Sata data ports on previous Motherboard .1 for Boot drive, 1 for Optic drive, other 2 for HDD's. As it stands now I have 6xSata3 ports, 2 used and 4 available on my motherboard. Room to move.
cheers

kioti
07-06-2019, 09:35 PM
bryan. hi..I agree totally. that is why I thinking I need a 1TB or 2TB drive.Strictly for installing Programs that are used at times but I will be using them as drives to which I can have downloads sent to / move the Documents/ Pictures/Videos folders/editing- compilations of webcam, camcorder vids I work on and turn into DVD format and burn to disc instead of to the SSD NVMe boot drive or the 500GB SSD. I want the M.2 NVMe and the 500GB SSD drives solely for the Op System and the most used games/progs and apps.
cheers

kioti
07-06-2019, 10:37 PM
Seagate Firecuda 2TB cheapest price in the link below. Only thing I don't like about it is the 2.5inch form factor. I use a PC and not laptop and all the bays in my tower are 3.5inch so I have to start buying mounting brackets to secure the drive. Even on trade me the cost of the mounting bracket is $35-$40.
The Samsung 500GB SSD I have is Sata and that is hanging from its sata power cable inside the tower
https://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=3926811

dugimodo
07-06-2019, 11:17 PM
I haven't compared prices but the firecuda drives are available in both 2.5" and 3.5", normally the 2.5" drives cost more for the same capacity.

kioti
08-06-2019, 01:51 AM
[QUOTE=dugimodo;1289509]I haven't compared prices but the firecuda drives are available in both 2.5" and 3.5", normally the 2.5" drives cost more for the same capacity.[/QUO
dugimodo
hi. ummmm I only showed the link for the price of the Seagate Firecuda because it is cheaper than the 3.5 inch drive I was looking at in Computer Lounge......but on 2nd look at Comp Lounge it is a 2.5inch SSHD as well.
https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/shop/components/storage/hard-drives/seagate-firecuda-2tb-128mb-25-sata3-solid-state-hybird-drive
I will phone the Lounge tomorrow and ask if they have the 2TB Firecuda in form factor 3.5 inch

They do have a nice WD Blue 2TB 3.5 inch for $109 :D
https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/shop/components/storage/hard-drives/western-digital-blue-2tb-35-sata3-hard-drive

cheers

piroska
08-06-2019, 09:15 AM
your link to pricespy didn't show any drives, was only a page of accolades and comments saying how awesome and speedy service pricespy is.

Sorry, that was the cheapest shop, they had it for $152.

kioti
08-06-2019, 09:55 AM
piroska
hi. All good. I googled pricespy and went had a look myself. There is a 2TB Firecuda shown and it is $158, but it is 2.5inch Form Factor. I would prefer a 3.5inch because it fits in the bays of my PC. If I can't find a 3.5 inch I will settle for a 2.5 inch
thanks
Garry

https://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=3926811

There is a 3.5inch at the shop shown in the link...difference is that this has 64MB Cache and the 2.5 inch has 128MB Cache

https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/shop/components/storage/hard-drives/seagate-firecuda-2tb-64mb-sata3-solid-state-hybrid-drive

wainuitech
08-06-2019, 11:00 AM
You can just use a 2.5" if the price is right, and buy a Mounting try, which fits a 3.5: slot. Thats what I do when changing a persons ( or my own) HDD's to SSD.

The ones I get from a local supplier are ADATA 2.5 To 3.5 Mounting Tray with Screws ( approx $6)

9695

Heres the actual tray as you get them, with screws, as well as a standard 2.5 Drive just put on top to get the size ( dont have any spare SSD'd at the moment).

9696 9697