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SurferJoe46
13-02-2018, 07:34 AM
Let's say that I have a legal copy of XP-P (I do) and I want to 'liberate' one of the drivers for a piece of hardware --- say, f'rinstance : a printer driver in XP and run it in a wrapper called 'WINE' on Ubuntu.

Would I have to extract just the driver (don't ask ME how - and please remember that this'll fall onto Press F1 heads if this gets a GO) - and load that up, er - somewhere/somehow in Ubuntu and just run it like a vestige of Linux but via WINE?

Have I got something going here? Or is it impossible?

i don't mind CUPS - not really.

What am I saying? I dislike CUPS as it is severely crippled for my use. I have to 'send' anything I want to print as a PDF to my Android toys and PRINT from there.

It works - but I am getting Frequent Flier Miles on my documents that way - and it takes a lot of extra finger poking and pointing and saving as a PDF on two operating systems - and sending as a file - and all that junk.

piroska
13-02-2018, 08:56 AM
Let's say that I have a legal copy of XP-P (I do) and I want to 'liberate' one of the drivers for a piece of hardware --- say, f'rinstance : a printer driver in XP and run it in a wrapper called 'WINE' on Ubuntu.

Would I have to extract just the driver (don't ask ME how - and please remember that this'll fall onto Press F1 heads if this gets a GO) - and load that up, er - somewhere/somehow in Ubuntu and just run it like a vestige of Linux but via WINE?

What am I saying? I dislike CUPS as it is severely crippled for my use. I have to 'send' anything I want to print as a PDF to my Android toys and PRINT from there.



What has windows got to do with a driver? You get drivers from the manufacturers website.
I guess you could try doing that, using a windows driver via wine but I doubt it will work in a practical way. How do you then get the program (Libre for instance) to print to wine?

Why not just use a proper Linux driver. I get there are issues with some printers.
I had an Epson, it worked, but 2 sided printing was a pita, I made it work via Boomaga, but still had to manually turn the paper.

So I bought an HP. HP has the best support for Linux of all the printer brands.

And it did, it's perfect.

SurferJoe46
13-02-2018, 09:48 AM
That would be a good idea and all - but I bought this Canon on the premise that it was supported by L-based distros - but it ain't.

Buying another printer for the, oh ---> next foreseeable millennium or so - is not in the tea leaves.

I do know that Libre runs on M$, Linux and (shudder!) iOS.

The M$ run-ability is what I'm making reference to for this idea of shuffling documents back and forth from there to L/Ubuntu via WINE. :waughh:

However, I do appreciate your input. It may not be what I want to hear, but I believe you.

Nick G
13-02-2018, 11:07 AM
What's the printer model?

SurferJoe46
13-02-2018, 12:34 PM
It's a Canon MF244dw.

Nick G
13-02-2018, 12:41 PM
I'm assuming you've tried the driver listed on the Canon USA website? https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/printers/black-and-white-laser/imageclass-mf244dw/imageclass-mf244dw?tab=drivers_downloads

Have you tried this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/855455/driver-to-print-from-a-cannon-imageclass-mf244dw-on-ubuntu-16-04-lts

piroska
13-02-2018, 01:54 PM
That would be a good idea and all - but I bought this Canon on the premise that it was supported by L-based distros - but it ain't.
.

But it is...what is the exact issue you get with it?

Rod J
13-02-2018, 11:51 PM
@SurferJoe46 - I'm sorry, but your idea of running the printer driver in Wine simply won't work. :( Wine just isn't designed to interface with hardware that way. Any Windows apps you might use in Wine if used to print, etc work through the Linux hardware drivers, not Windows. Wine is like a virtual machine running on the host OS (Linux) in regard to hardware access ... at least that's how I see it.

SurferJoe46
14-02-2018, 02:48 PM
But it is...what is the exact issue you get with it?


About the only way i can print to this printer is by saving it as a PFD.... but it still will not commit the data to a piece of paper.

I've tried opening the PFDs I've saved and then hitting PRINT and nothing happens although Linux says it happened. I do not believe that Ubuntu can tell if the print job got printed after the data was sent.

Somebody in my neighborhood is probably wondering where all these strange print jobs are coming from that spew from THEIR printer!

I know I have the correct IP address - 192.168.1.117. I can query the printer manually - I've confirmed the IP - so it can't be that as it's problem.

SurferJoe46
14-02-2018, 02:51 PM
@SurferJoe46 - I'm sorry, but your idea of running the printer driver in Wine simply won't work. :( Wine just isn't designed to interface with hardware that way. Any Windows apps you might use in Wine if used to print, etc work through the Linux hardware drivers, not Windows. Wine is like a virtual machine running on the host OS (Linux) in regard to hardware access ... at least that's how I see it.


Yeah - I thought I was treading on thin ice there (NZ= gently coagulated water).

I see your bird got a tattoo. Does he drink that much to get blotto enough to get a belly tat?

Or --- just maybe your penguin is a she. That would be a simpler and prolly more correct assumption.

Not being PC here at all tonight!

SurferJoe46
14-02-2018, 02:54 PM
I'm assuming you've tried the driver listed on the Canon USA website? https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/printers/black-and-white-laser/imageclass-mf244dw/imageclass-mf244dw?tab=drivers_downloads

Have you tried this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/855455/driver-to-print-from-a-cannon-imageclass-mf244dw-on-ubuntu-16-04-lts

I've run the gauntlet with both those 'suggestions' (the quotes are not in reference to your information - just that those ideas haven't worked for me so far).

There's always hope though.

SOMEwhere - SOMEhow - SOMEbody has an answer.

SurferJoe46
14-02-2018, 03:13 PM
There isn't any driver for my Canon MF244dw:
The following Canon printer models and series are supported by the Canon UFR II driver version 290

LBP6650/3470, LBP6670 UFR II, LBP7660C UFR II, iR1018/1022/1023, iR1020/1024/1025, iR1730/1740/1750, iR2002/2202, iR2016, iR2018, iR2020, iR2022/2025/2030, iR2318/2320, iR2420, iR2422, iR 2520, iR 2525/2530, iR 2535/2545 UFRII LT, iRC1021/1022, iRC1028/1030, L90/L160/L230, L100/L150/L170, L190/L410 Series, LC600 Series, LC800 Series, D400-450, D460-490, D500 Series, D530/D560, D1100/MF6600, D1300/MF6700,MY PRINTER MF244dw SHOULD BE RIGHT ABOUT HERE! MF3010, MF4100 Series, MF4200 Series, MF4200 Series, MF4320-4350, MF4360-4390, MF4400 Series, MF4500 Series, MF4500w Series, MF4600 Series, MF4700 Series, MF4800 Series, MF5800 Series, MF5900 Series, MF6100 Series, MF6500 Series, MF7200 Series, MF7400 Serie, MF8000 Series, MF8000C Series, MF8200C Series, MF8300 Series, MF8300C Series, MF8400 Series, MF8500C Series, MF9100 Series, MF9200 Series

With the Canon UFR II driver version 320 the additional printers supported are:

iPR C1PLUS, iPR C1, iPR C600, iPR C700/800, iR105PLUSII, iR1133II, iR1435II, iR2230, iR2270/iR2870, iR2830, iR3025, iR3030, iR3035/iR3045, iR 3180C, iR3225, iR3230, iR3235/iR3245, iR3530, iR3570/iR4570, iR4530, iR5055/iR5065, iR5075, iR5570/iR6570, iR 5880C/6880C, iR7086-7105, iR8070, iR85PLUS, iR9070, iR-ADV 400/500, iR-ADV 4025/4035, iR-ADV 4045/4051, iR-ADV 4225/4235, iR-ADV 4245/4251, iR-ADV 6055/6065, iR-ADV 6075, iR-ADV 6255/6265, iR-ADV 6275, iR-ADV 6555/6565, iR-ADV 6575, iR-ADV 8085/8095, iR-ADV 8105, iR-ADV 8205, iR-ADV 8285/8295, iR-ADV 8505, iR-ADV 8585/8595, iR-ADV C2020/2030, iR-ADV C2020i/2030i, iR-ADV C2020L/2030L, iR-ADV C2025, iR-ADV C2220/2230, iR-ADV C2225, iR-ADV C250/350, iR-ADV C3320L, iR-ADV C3320, iR-ADV C3325/3330, iR-ADV C351, iR-ADV C5030/5035, iR-ADV C5045/5051, iR-ADV C5235/5240, iR-ADV C5250/5255, iR-ADV C7055/7065, iR-ADV C7260/7270, iR-ADV C7280, iR-ADV C9060/9070, iR-ADV C9065/9075, iR-ADV C9270/9280, iR C1225, iR C1325/1335, iR C2380/2550, iR C2580, iR C2880/C3380, iR C3080/3480/3580, iR C3180, iR C4080/C4580, iR C5180, iR C5185, iR C5870, iR C5880/C6880, iR C6870, LBP251, LBP252, LBP253, LBP3360, LBP3370, LBP3460, LBP351/352, LBP5360, LBP5960, LBP5970/5975, LBP6680/3480, LBP6750/3560, LBP6780/3580, LBP7680C/5280, LBP7750C/5460, LBP7780C/5480, LBP8750, LBP8780, MF210 Series, MF220 Series,OR IT COULD BE HERE HERE! MF4010 Series, MF410 Series, MF4400w Series, MF510 Series, MF620C Series, MF7100 Series, MF720C Series, MF810/820

The following Canon printer models and series are supported only by the Canon UFR II LT driver version 120 and 130

LBP6030/LBP6040/LBP6018L, LBP6230/LBP6240, LBP7100C/LBP7110C, LBP8100 BUT IT'S NOT EVEN IN THIS LIST EITHER!

KarameaDave
14-02-2018, 03:35 PM
https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/printers/black-and-white-laser/imageclass-mf244dw/imageclass-mf244dw

Is where you go, you need version 3.50 Joe the same as the last time I showed you.

linux-UFRII-drv-v350-usen.tar.gz is the file name.

SurferJoe46
14-02-2018, 04:43 PM
https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/printers/black-and-white-laser/imageclass-mf244dw/imageclass-mf244dw

Is where you go, you need version 3.50 Joe the same as the last time I showed you.

linux-UFRII-drv-v350-usen.tar.gz is the file name.

I'll try that again - but it only worked one time - er, until I shut down for the night and the next day it didn't work and the IP had been reassigned (remember that I asked about that IP reassignment?) in the printer and from that moment on, I never got it to print again.

I could not get Ubuntu to 'see' the printer, scan for a new printer or anything---- all the time my Android tablets had no troubles at all.

If the IP moved, the tablets should have had troubles too --- no?

I'll give it another try though.

[blink]

I just went to that site, it detected my system and distro - and the DOWNLOAD button would not work.

I have seen that before - when I HAVE a driver already installed, it will not allow it to be downloaded again. The page somehow KNOWS I have it installed - and it won't activate the button again. It's pretty smart ;( but it's lousing me up!

I realize that the last time, I got this same driver - and it worked like I said - 1x.


Something went bad in the next 24 hours somewhere.

So - I have the 'correct' driver --- or a driver that worked 1x - but now it won't. 'Work' that is.

Here's another crazy --- the newest installation of Ubuntu Studio --- although THIS time it won't run on my WSKY USB "dongle" - it WILL run the Canon 244!

Just stranger and stranger and stranger.

KarameaDave
14-02-2018, 05:13 PM
So you clicked on select and then on download?
Note the date for this driver it is 02/13/18 which in your back to front yankie date format is the second of Feb this year, so you won't have that one will you?
You aren't using a script blocker?

piroska
15-02-2018, 06:37 PM
Have you tried Boomaga?
Download it and install it then print to it. Then print from Bomaga, it's fairly self explanatory, you'll see. Try it

SurferJoe46
15-02-2018, 09:23 PM
So you clicked on select and then on download?
Note the date for this driver it is 02/13/18 which in your back to front yankie date format is the second of Feb this year, so you won't have that one will you?
You aren't using a script blocker?

SELECT is blanked out. It's there to see, but my cursor never turns to a hand when hovering on it. .

Script blocker?


Have you tried Boomaga?
Download it and install it then print to it. Then print from Bomaga, it's fairly self explanatory, you'll see. Try it

Yeah - I tried Boomaga. Can't remember if it was the one that shot all my paper out of the tray with just one number/letter/symbol on it or not. I was getting confused by that time.

I've got to get some clarity on all this stuff. A good night's sleep might help.

KarameaDave
16-02-2018, 08:35 AM
Yeah script blocker, an add-on for your browser that stops scripts from running, unless you allow them.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/noscript/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/
Are common ones on Firefox.

SurferJoe46
16-02-2018, 12:04 PM
Yeah script blocker, an add-on for your browser that stops scripts from running, unless you allow them.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/noscript/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/
Are common ones on Firefox.

The fact that I had the opportunity to download them at one time, and now only the button for SELECT is greyed-out tells me that there was no interference from AdBlockers, et al originally.

N'est-ce Pas?

KarameaDave
16-02-2018, 12:46 PM
PM sent

SurferJoe46
16-02-2018, 01:04 PM
PM received.

Thanks.

(shhhh! secret stuff!)

bevy121
16-02-2018, 01:08 PM
Here's your driver for you if you still haven't got it - uploaded it to one one the sites have..

http://madmaks.co.nz/linux-UFRII-drv-v350-usen.tar.gz

Dave probably done that for you as well

KarameaDave
16-02-2018, 01:28 PM
Dave probably done that for you as well

Snap, yep that's what I did.