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Geek4414
26-08-2016, 04:56 PM
I've not a gamer, so have not been keeping up with the advances in Video cards. A friend wants to build a gaming rig, probably budget around $2K and no more than $3K. I guess fancy cases are around $300 to $500? i7 cpu around $500 to $700? 16GB DDR4 $150? Any recommendation on the best parts for Power Supply, Motherboard and Video card? Is Watercooling really necessary or just purely for 'looks'?

pctek
27-08-2016, 08:01 AM
Fancy cases? Quality aluminum can be.
Blingy steel, far cheaper.

Cases don't matter, just get what is big enough and what appeals to you. Just don't get it bundled with PSU, get a quality PSU separate.

Watercooling is not necessary, it's a preference, some people like it, some don't. me I never liked the idea of water and electricity together.

The most important component is the GPU and that can cost you up to $1400 for the latest high end.

Mine recently died....can't afford even mid rang now, so I bought an older high end card 2nd hand.

Last years high end car can be cheaper - it's not always this years is better performance wise either, look up some Ranking charts for GPUS and compare properly before deciding.

chiefnz
27-08-2016, 08:01 AM
How long is a piece of string?

It's probably best to come up with a list of potential candidates you/he are likely to buy and where you can't make up your mind for whatever reason post back here with the "contender" components and I'm sure there will be loads of advice on what to buy or not to buy.

For me... given you've been out of the gaming scene for a while...


Asus or Gigabyte motherboard - my personal preference here I've never bought anything else for any of my rigs make sure you get one with at least 4 RAM slots and 6 SATA connectors
i5 CPU at a minimum if you have the money to spend get an i7 but it doesn't have to be top of the line i7 in my opinion.
GeForce 970 or 980 (I don't see the sense in getting a Titan or 1080)
16GB RAM
500GB SSD
2-3TB drive for data
Decent 500W (maybe even 650W) PSU - Thermaltake, Corsair, etc. BUY A QUALITY PSU. Probably the one thing in your rig you should spend good money on.
This is just something I'd add personally.... Water cooling unit for the CPU. Certainly not a must but I like the extra bit of quiet it gives especially when your graphics card fan is screaming away during a massive CoD firefight.


If all else fails pop into your local computer store and see if they have any gaming rigs setup in store and take a look at what's on offer. PBTech (https://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=c&p=gaming-desktops&fs=630499) has a pretty decent collection of gaming rigs.

Hope that helps.

Geek4414
29-08-2016, 02:07 PM
Thanks for the reply PCTek and ChiefNZ. Yes, I know this is kind of "How long is a piece of string" type question, have not actually look at any options yet, so thought might just put it out there and see if there are suggestions to narrow down what to look at.

In this case, the 'case' does matter a bit, as it's for a teenager who wants the rig to look cool, have seen a few very cool cases that he might like. I do agree about mixing electricity and liquid, but a lot of the cool looking gaming rigs seems to be all bling up with some sort of water cooling system.

http://i63.tinypic.com/15pixhf.gif


I do understand the GPU and the PS are the key part of the equation, are the GTX 1060 or 1070 a good contender to start with for a rig between $2000 to $3000? Or would it be an overkill? This is where I don't know where to start looking. The PS required is dictated by how hungry the GPU is, but a grunty PS means it can handle future GPU better, right?


Asus or Gigabyte motherboard are probably where I would start, just that there are gazillions of options out there and it's extremely tedious to sort through the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. Obviously I can start on the expensive MBs but then I wouldn't know which one would give the best bang for the bucks.The 4RAM slot and 6 SATA suggestion is good idea, more scope for expansion to future proof it a bit.

wratterus
29-08-2016, 03:20 PM
Have a look at computerlounge.co.nz builds and the parts lists. That will give you a good starting point. You'll be able to build a beast for 3k. Don't bother with water cooling in that price range, an enclosed loop CPU cooler is not a bad option, but not some custom loop. you'll spend 3k just on watercooling parts.

Don't bother with anything other than Asus or Gigabyte for the mainboard.

Air cooled can still look awesome. This a pic of my PC currently - about 6 years old, still goes hundy.

7381

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/systems/systems.asp

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/systems/systemdetail.asp?sysid=211&systypeid=3

Geek4414
29-08-2016, 10:28 PM
Have a look at computerlounge.co.nz builds and the parts lists. That will give you a good starting point. You'll be able to build a beast for 3k. Don't bother with water cooling in that price range, an enclosed loop CPU cooler is not a bad option, but not some custom loop. you'll spend 3k just on watercooling parts.

Don't bother with anything other than Asus or Gigabyte for the mainboard.

Air cooled can still look awesome. This a pic of my PC currently - about 6 years old, still goes hundy.

7381

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/systems/systems.asp

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/systems/systemdetail.asp?sysid=211&systypeid=3

Thanks Wratterus, will have a look at their build list to get some ideas. Your rig looks cool! :punk

Driftwood
30-08-2016, 07:46 AM
The flowers are a nice touch.

pctek
30-08-2016, 07:51 AM
....but a lot of the cool looking gaming rigs seems to be all bling up with some sort of water cooling system.

are the GTX 1060 or 1070 a good contender to start with for a rig between $2000 to $3000? .

Cool looking means nothing. As I said, you don't NEED watercooling. Up to him though.

Graphics:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gpu-hierarchy,review-33383.html

Geek4414
01-09-2016, 08:59 PM
Cool looking means nothing. As I said, you don't NEED watercooling. Up to him though.

Graphics:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gpu-hierarchy,review-33383.html

Thanks PCTek, that's a good source of comparison, will have a look at it this weekend, been too busy all week to check out all the info.
Thanks again for everyone's suggestions! :clap

Chilling_Silence
02-09-2016, 07:32 AM
$2K!?! I managed to build my girlfriend a Gaming PC for 2K, with dual 24" monitors for that price... You can do a lot if you're wise with the money :D
EDIT: Like this! http://imgur.com/a/SUwaP

dugimodo
03-09-2016, 12:03 AM
short version.
i5
16GB RAM
Quality PSU
Best single graphics card you can afford - use speedies link.

Yes you can go i7, watercooling, Dual graphics cards, etc, but that increases the price much faster than it increases the gaming fun.
The resolution is a big factor as well. A 1060 is all you need for 1920 x 1080 and a 1070 is good enough for or 2460 x 1440 so buying a 1080 to play at those resolutions is a bit of a waste. (Same for AMD cards I'm just less familiar with which models)
An i7 may be worth having, but up until now has not helped with games enough to be noticeable.