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Tony
25-03-2015, 11:24 AM
I'm considering upgrading my desktop kit and a friend who works at PB Technologies has suggested this as a set of upgrade bits:





PART #

PRODUCT




CPUIT4460 (http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=CPUIT4460&name=Intel-Haswell-Core-i5-4460-3.2GHz-6MB-LGA1150--(H8)

Intel Haswell Core i5-4460 3.2GHz 6MB LGA1150 (H81,B85, H97,Z97 Motherboard Required) (http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=CPUIT4460&name=Intel-Haswell-Core-i5-4460-3.2GHz-6MB-LGA1150--(H8)











MBDASR1905 (http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=MBDASR1905&name=ASRock-Fatal1ty-H97-Peformance-Socket-1150-Intel-H)

ASRock Fatal1ty H97 Peformance Socket 1150, Intel H97 Chipset,ATX Form, 4 X DDR3 DIMM, DVI/VGA/HDMI, 6 X SATA3, USB3 ,Intel Gigabit Lan, Support AMD CrossFireX (http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=MBDASR1905&name=ASRock-Fatal1ty-H97-Peformance-Socket-1150-Intel-H)











VGAGBV00731 (http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=VGAGBV00731&name=Gigabyte-GV-N730SL-2GL-Geforce-GT730-2G-GDDR3-PCI-)

Gigabyte GV-N730SL-2GL Geforce GT730 2G GDDR3 PCI-E Video card , DVI+HDMI+VGA ,Fanless , Low profile , 3 Years warranty (http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=VGAGBV00731&name=Gigabyte-GV-N730SL-2GL-Geforce-GT730-2G-GDDR3-PCI-)











MEMCRU048192 (http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=MEMCRU048192&name=Crucial-8GB-DESKTOP-DDR3-1600Mhz-DIMM-240pin-Non-E)

Crucial 8GB DESKTOP DDR3 1600Mhz DIMM 240pin Non ECC PC3-12800 Desktop RAM (http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=MEMCRU048192&name=Crucial-8GB-DESKTOP-DDR3-1600Mhz-DIMM-240pin-Non-E)






Any comments about the selection?

pctek
25-03-2015, 11:59 AM
http://www.gpforums.co.nz/threads/297771-Experiences-with-Online-Retailers

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PB Tech (www.pbtech.co.nz)

** (2 stars):

These stores are generally unrecommended. They are at times problematic when it comes to RMA services taking very long.

CPU is OK.
RAm is OK
GPU is OK.

Asrock. No. Get ASUS or Gigabyte.

dugimodo
25-03-2015, 12:03 PM
What will you use it for?
All good parts but the graphics card is too weak to game seriously on and you might as well leave it out and use the integrated HD graphics if that's not an issue and save the cash. Plus you can always add one later if integrated isn't up to the task.

Edit: I like Asrock personally, they tend to have more features for the same price. Originally it was part of Asus I believe but it now seperate. I have an Asrock and an Asus machine myself and both are good.

Tony
25-03-2015, 12:41 PM
I've used PBtech on and off for a long time for all sorts of bits and pieces and never had a problem with them. My (young) friend would if necessary do his best for me I know. I do usually use Ascent though.

I'd never heard of Asrock - interesting to get two opposing views.

I'm not a gamer so you may be right Dugimodo about the need for a graphics card. However I do do a bit of graphics/photo manipulation stuff so it may still be worth shelling out for a separate card.

linw
25-03-2015, 02:21 PM
Like Dugi said, postpone the graphics card till you know you need it. Onboard graphics are pretty good for non-gamers these days.

Tony
25-03-2015, 05:27 PM
Like Dugi said, postpone the graphics card till you know you need it. Onboard graphics are pretty good for non-gamers these days.I think that's what I'm going to do.

BBCmicro
26-03-2015, 12:10 PM
Onboard graphics are pretty good for non-gamers these days.

I would have agreed until I got my Z3 Compact phone at Christmas with 4k video. I was sceptical about 4k but have found it to be really good. (It effectively shoots a 30fps stream of 8 MP stills, great for extracting photos or zooming into the video)

But it takes a LOT of processing. (3840 x 2160 @ 57Mbps) My i5-3570k @ 4.1 GHz with HD 7750 is not really up to it. My next rig needs to be 2x faster at least.

I'm thinking (in a year's time):

i7-6770k (Skylake LGA1151 14nm 20xPICe3)
Sunrise Point MB Z170
16GB DDR4 2133MHz
GTX970
Windows 10, USB3.1, USB-C

wratterus
26-03-2015, 12:46 PM
What PCTek said. Get either Asus or Gigabyte for the board/graphics card. Stay away from AsRock. Other than that it look sweet. What PSU are you currently running?

Edit - just read the whole thread.

There is a reason AsRock are cheaper - they use cheaper components. Also they only have a 1 year warranty vs 3 years for Asus and Gigabyte. That alone should tell you all you need to know.

For just a couple of $$ more, you'd be crazy not to go with Asus or Gigabyte. ;)

http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=MBDGBM2907&name=Gigabyte-H97-Gaming-3-Intel-H97-Chipset-for-LGA115

Tony
26-03-2015, 12:52 PM
What PCTek said. Get either Asus or Gigabyte for the board/graphics card. Stay away from AsRock. Other than that it look sweet. What PSU are you currently running?I'll talk to my friend at PBTech and find why he recommends Asrock. It seems to be aimed at Gamers - which would suit him but is not of much interest to me. My current mobo is ASUS.

The PSU is a Corsair TX650M.

wratterus
26-03-2015, 12:57 PM
PSU is good. I've just added a link to an appropriate motherboard in my previous post. You could go cheaper if you wanted and probably not lose any performance - those boards are aimed at 'gaming' users, but will still work perfectly for a normal build.

http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=MBDGBM2901&name=Gigabyte-GA-H97M-D3H--Socket-1150Intel-H97-Chipset

A mATX board like that will do everything you need too.

Tony
26-03-2015, 01:05 PM
I don't think I want a micro-ATX board. I've got a tower case, so I have the space, and I find those boards just a bit too cramped.

Any preference between Intel and AMD? I've tended to have AMD up till now, mainly because of price, but I could easily be persuaded to change.

dugimodo
26-03-2015, 01:42 PM
Intel are better in terms of IPC and efficiency but for many people that doesn't matter. Myself I'd go intel but AMD is fine too.
Intel - more performance and better efficiency
AMD - Lower price and better integrated GPU in the APU's

If you go for an APU you definitely won't need a graphics card but in every other respect I would still recommend intel.

Tony
21-04-2015, 10:15 AM
I haven't posted for a while because I didn't want to be accused of being indecisive. :)

This is what I have ended up with:

Mobo:
http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=429746

CPU:
http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=429743

Memory:
http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=MEMCRU048192&name=Crucial-8GB-DESKTOP-DDR3-1600Mhz-DIMM-240pin-Non-E

All I have to do now is put it together.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions.

wratterus
22-04-2015, 02:19 PM
That will be fine. :)

Tony
22-04-2015, 02:55 PM
That will be fine. :)

I think so.

Speedy Gonzales
22-04-2015, 03:18 PM
Hopefully its got BIOS 2003 on it, thats the BIOS you need for that CPU

bk T
22-04-2015, 04:23 PM
I've used PBtech on and off for a long time for all sorts of bits and pieces and never had a problem with them. ...

They used to be good but had quite a nasty experience with their Penrose branch about a month ago. Won't go back to them again, at least the Penrose branch.

Are they franchised? They seem to be individually managed.

Tony
22-04-2015, 04:58 PM
They used to be good but had quite a nasty experience with their Penrose branch about a month ago. Won't go back to them again, at least the Penrose branch.

Are they franchised? They seem to be individually managed.I've never had a problem with them, but I usually deal with Henderson these days. For this exercise I actually went through a young friend of mine who is working in their support area, so it was all done online. He got me a good price and free delivery, too.

Tony
22-04-2015, 05:01 PM
Hopefully its got BIOS 2003 on it, thats the BIOS you need for that CPUWell, I guess I'll find out when I press power on...