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nedkelly
18-09-2014, 08:31 PM
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/09/apple-expands-data-encryption-under-ios-8-making-handover-to-cops-moot/

This should be interesting.
Apple now "reportedly" is unable to un-encrypt your data even if they are given a warrant, hmm.

R2x1
18-09-2014, 11:07 PM
- - - unless they are offered money, then new rules apply - - -

;)

Speedy Gonzales
18-09-2014, 11:41 PM
Thats if it'll fit now lol. Its like 5.8 GB!

nedkelly
19-09-2014, 01:16 AM
Thats if it'll fit now lol. Its like 5.8 GB!

Yup, massive install.

R2x1
19-09-2014, 06:57 AM
That is big indeed, how long before you need an external HD on your phone? ;)

dugimodo
19-09-2014, 12:13 PM
Meh some kid will probably break it a week after release.
As for a HDD on the phone - never . Micro SD's are tiny and are currently available commonly at 128GB size with 256GB starting to show up.
all they need to do now is speed them up a bit.

Agent_24
19-09-2014, 01:24 PM
That just means the police will resort to tougher measures to get your passcode out of you... meanwhile Apple can wash its hands clean of the whole mess by being unable to do anything to help.

Win for Apple, lose for the consumer, as usual.

R2x1
19-09-2014, 07:39 PM
It is apparently not that simple to crack the code. It is using the same algorithm that was used to find an address in Apple Maps, and the teams trying to crack that are still lost. ;)

DeSade
19-09-2014, 08:24 PM
That just means the police will resort to tougher measures to get your passcode out of you... meanwhile Apple can wash its hands clean of the whole mess by being unable to do anything to help.

Win for Apple, lose for the consumer, as usual.

What a crock of ****, "lose for the consumer"

How the hell is better encryption a loss for the consumer?
It means your data is more secure and if you do have something incriminating on it for whatever reason they can't get it unless you are stupid enough to provide the password.

inphinity
19-09-2014, 09:26 PM
What a crock of ****, "lose for the consumer"

How the hell is better encryption a loss for the consumer?
It means your data is more secure and if you do have something incriminating on it for whatever reason they can't get it unless you are stupid enough to provide the password.

Remember that a significant portion of the userbase are fools, who want completely secure encryption, BUT it will all be Apple's (or some other corporates) fault if they forget their passcode and lose all their stuff.

R2x1
19-09-2014, 11:18 PM
iPhans would sooner lose a limb than iNsult their beloved aPple. They will just have to buy a new unit whether it is a simulated phone, a simulated computer or a mock-up watch. Remember, the spending is a major part of the aPple eXperience, they are used to it, and they demand it.
At least it keeps them off the streets. ;)

Agent_24
20-09-2014, 12:58 AM
How the hell is better encryption a loss for the consumer?
It means your data is more secure and if you do have something incriminating on it for whatever reason they can't get it unless you are stupid enough to provide the password.

If you have something incriminating and they know it, who's going to be on the receiving end of whatever methods they use to get your password? Won't be Apple, if their encryption is as good as they claim.

Plus, there will certainly be a fair few idiots who lose their files, as inphinity said.

DeSade
20-09-2014, 01:54 AM
If you have something incriminating and they know it, who's going to be on the receiving end of whatever methods they use to get your password? Won't be Apple, if their encryption is as good as they claim.

Plus, there will certainly be a fair few idiots who lose their files, as inphinity said.

There is still the law and evidence obtained by "strong arm" tactics is still inadmissible in court
All you need to do is exercise your right to remain silent and wait for your lawyer.



You have the right to remain silent. You do not have to make any statement. Anything you say will be recorded and may be given in evidence in court. You have the right to speak with a lawyer without delay and in private before deciding to answer any questions. Police have a list of lawyers you may speak to for free.


But you are right about the morons that lose their passwords.

Agent_24
20-09-2014, 11:23 AM
There is still the law and evidence obtained by "strong arm" tactics is still inadmissible in court
All you need to do is exercise your right to remain silent and wait for your lawyer.

That might be true here, but I imagine it may not be the same in all countries.