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NZHawk
09-05-2014, 01:28 PM
I rebooted a Windows XP computer with a usb flash drive plugged in
and now the computer will only boot to "Plop Boot Manager"????
and won't let me get into Windows.

any help would be appreciated.

Rod J
09-05-2014, 01:40 PM
http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html

NZHawk
09-05-2014, 01:48 PM
Thank you Rod ~
although what I want it to bypass plop on the boot up

Rod J
09-05-2014, 02:06 PM
From the Plop documentation (http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/full.html):

"2. Uninstall

When you installed the boot manager to the MBR, then you can remove the boot manager in the same way that you used to install the boot manager, but you have to use the option 4 or 5 in the install program.

When you don't want to use the install program to remove the boot manager, then you can use any other program that writes a new program to the MBR. Example FIXMBR, or "fdisk /mbr" and so on. Or you install another boot manager to the MBR."

I suggest the bold text would be the easiest way to remove Plop if you don't have the Plop boot manager install CD. But you may still not be able to boot WinXP after doing that.

NZHawk
09-05-2014, 02:19 PM
Again Thank you Rod ~

1] how did this get started when it wasn't visible before ~ before it would just boot to the hdd
2] when it boots to plop I only have 3 options: SETUP, ABOUT, SHUTDOWN ~ I was under the impression that it would allow me other boot options ie: hdd, cdrom....
3] I changed the setting to allow CD boot, but it wont boot from the likes of Hirens or Seagate

NZHawk
09-05-2014, 02:32 PM
If I pull the cmos battery
& reset the bios would that clear the MBR and allow me to boot normally?

Rod J
09-05-2014, 02:50 PM
(1) Not sure, possibly you have only one OS installed so the boot manager didn't appear and it just booted to XP. Maybe your XP install is damaged in some way and that is why the boot manager is now showing up.

(2) Have you tried the SETUP option to see if Plop can find the XP install? Maybe Plop itself is damaged and therefore just resetting the MBR might be the best way.

(3) I don't know why.

Removing the CMOS battery and resetting the BIOS will have NO effect on clearing the MBR. The MBR is on the first sector of your hard drive and isn't connected to the BIOS at all.

Rod J
09-05-2014, 02:51 PM
What USB flash drive did you boot with? (in your first post). Did you install Plop from that?

NZHawk
09-05-2014, 03:00 PM
again thank you Rod J ~ much appreciated your support
I thought I had it ~ I had the cmos battery out ~ put it back in ~ and the computer booted!!
reboot though returns me to plop ~ bugger

I didn't install plop
the usb drive isn't bootable ~ it just a standard usb drive with files & programs I use (ie: antivirus installs....)

Speedy Gonzales
09-05-2014, 03:02 PM
Or as it says here (http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/plpbt.bin.html#runwin)

To remove the entry from the windows boot menu run the program c:\plop\plpbt4win. Use "l" to list all entries. Remove the entry with "r ID". ID is the number you have seen with "l". See here for more info's to plpbt4win.

What version of plop is it?

NZHawk
09-05-2014, 03:13 PM
5.0.14 20120211

Speedy Gonzales
09-05-2014, 03:14 PM
Try what posted in the previous post. See if it works

NZHawk
09-05-2014, 03:23 PM
haven't been able to boot to windows again ~ just that once.
now just to plop

Speedy Gonzales
09-05-2014, 03:26 PM
Does it boot into dos or something?

NZHawk
09-05-2014, 03:27 PM
If I reset the mbr
will that wipe plop and allow me to boot normally to xp?

NZHawk
09-05-2014, 03:28 PM
no it boots to a screen that give me 3 options: SETUP, ABOUT, SHUTDOWN

Speedy Gonzales
09-05-2014, 03:29 PM
And what does setup have in it?

NZHawk
09-05-2014, 03:45 PM
Partitions
Profiles
Boot Manager

NZHawk
09-05-2014, 03:48 PM
Ok ~ I've tricked it to boot to windows
how do I get plop uninstalled?

Speedy Gonzales
09-05-2014, 03:48 PM
Have you tried what it says on the site??

When you installed the boot manager to the MBR, then you can remove the boot manager in the same way that you used to install the boot manager, but you have to use the option 4 or 5 in the install program.

NZHawk
09-05-2014, 03:51 PM
I didn't install plop ~ I will try the website

Speedy Gonzales
09-05-2014, 03:53 PM
I think that means to the mbr not to the hdd.

NZHawk
09-05-2014, 04:20 PM
tried to run the program c:\plop\plpbt4win.
brings up error ~ can't find c:\plopbt4win

NZHawk
09-05-2014, 04:24 PM
could I delete something from msconfig boot.ini
if so what?

[boot loader]
timeout=3
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)D
[operating systems]
etc

Speedy Gonzales
09-05-2014, 04:28 PM
Nope. So is plpbt4win in C or C:\plop? They're different folders. If its in the plop folder that's why it cant find it on C. Copy / move it to C. If thats where its meant to be / where it's looking for plpbt4win

NZHawk
09-05-2014, 04:36 PM
This computer is realllllllly weird.
C: opens to only a D: directory
I believe D:\ contains programs; no Documents and Settings....etc; only D:\
in there there is no directory for plop or plpbt4win

Speedy Gonzales
09-05-2014, 05:49 PM
Yup so whoever has plugged removable drives into this scan them with a good AV program. Because it was (I would say) infected with this (http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/threat/encyclopedia/entry.aspx?Name=Worm:Win32/Vobfus.C#tab=2). Otherwise if you plug whatever into another PC it'll get infected with the same thing.

By the looks of it, it disabled task manager, regedit and the security centre. Even tho trojan remover reset the reg settings (so it says) I would do a clean install / format. But I wouldnt use the same cd, if whoever used Nlite to slipstream whatever.

NZHawk
09-05-2014, 05:51 PM
agreed ~ thanks for your help & have a great weekend ~ good nite :)

Speedy Gonzales
09-05-2014, 05:52 PM
No worries you too :)