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Mirddes
19-10-2013, 04:10 AM
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A little project i have in my future, Focusing on the ASUS e35m1-m PRO my dad bought me before he died.

I would like the system to focus on Storage and 4xMultiseat

obviously going to use linux (windows and a thirdparty multiseat solution would only have its appeal if i was working with an i7)

the harddrives alone costing almost $1800

i know its not going to be a gaming rig, not even a contender for SteamOS. it will be something 4 people can watch videos on, browse the web, youtube, facebook. all the while hosting up a vast media collection, documents, email, personal website etc, and probably have quite a lot of fun emulating MANY old systems.

there are a lot of ports; 28 USB, 3 of which are internal and 6 of which are USB3; 2 6pin firewire400 ports; 14 SATA ports, 2 of which are eSATA; this is designed to be a central hub of computing activity. one box for my entire house hold.
2 sets of card readers is bound to come in handy

enough usb for mouse,keyboard,headset,webcam for each user ( 16 ports gone right there) and PLENTY of ports left over for many other devices to be attached, gamepads (gotta love emulation),printerscanner,charge cables, etc




The RAIDs

3 drive SSD Raid0, 120GB drives http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=2074412 $140 each
2 drive HDD raid1, Hotswap 2.5" 1TB 2.5" drives; 2 drives located off site; 4 drives total http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=1702739 $140 each ; 7200rpm
5 drive HDD Raid5. 4TB drives, 5+ year warranties http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=1487471 $336 each ; 7200rpm
2 Optical Drives, bluray/DVD $90/45
2 eSATA front+rear

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The Rest


E35m1m pro
5 SATA3 + 1 eSATA
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/E35M1M_PRO/

5 port SATA2 Port multiplier
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-5-5x1-Internal-SATA-II-Port-Multiplier-PM-Dip-Switch-RAID-Bracket-Mounting-/400327495528

4 port SATA1 PCI card
http://dx.com/p/silicon-image-4-port-sata-pci-expansion-card-4660

1GB HD6450
http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=868335

Modular PSU with support for 10 SATA devices
http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?e=1372035

4GB of ram, spare slot for another 4GB dimm (might actually need it if i ever implement multiseat)

removable 4x 2.5" drive bays
http://dx.com/p/compact-swap-4-quadruple-internal-2-5-sata-hdd-ssd-mobile-rack-enclosure-black-146287

front card readers
http://dx.com/p/5-25-pc-chassis-front-panel-card-reader-with-3-usb-ieee1394-esata-2-3-5mm-audio-34063
http://dx.com/p/3-5-internal-pci-e-to-usb-3-0-host-all-in-1-card-reader-combo-82792

optical drives

Bluray
http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=1225125
DVD
http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=1153495
5.25 bezel
http://www.digistor.com/Home/Bezel-Kit-Solutions/Combo-Kit-for-Dual-Slimline-Blu-ray-DVD-Drive-Black-Bezel


USB header multiplier
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811997024&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Accessories%20-%20Case%20/%20Rackmount-_-NZXT-_-11997024&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=3630615&SID=
USB2 PCI card
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEC-Chipset-4-external-1-internal-USB-2-0-ports-PCI-Card-plug-play-all-OS-/131017787657


Case
http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=952618 (i do have something else, very not fancy, i simply run out of space for mounting the final SSD and will use velcro)

Bay Converter 3.5 to 2x2.5
http://dx.com/p/orico-ac325-2s-2-bay-2-5-to-3-5-ide-sata-ssd-hard-drive-aluminum-rack-black-144745 (http://dx.com/p/orico-ac325-2s-2-bay-2-5-to-3-5-ide-sata-ssd-hard-drive-aluminum-rack-black-144745)


tl;dr

over the top? is there a linux that makes multiseat easy?
hopeful this inspires someone.

Mirddes
20-10-2013, 03:35 AM
i can't be give pause to the notion that there may be more than enough usb ports and the USB PCI card is wasteful. (not to mention the internal port is shared with an external port, ew)

without it we have 19 external usb ports, 2 internal

+4x4port USB hubs attached at rear IO, 1 per user (makes assigning devices easier) a total of 31+2

this leaves 15+2 usb ports for various devices along with freeing a PCI slot. and suggestons on what to use it for? was thinkgin TV tuner or FM transmitter. tv transmitter would be cool



my earlier calculations were incorrect.

a hdaudio Y splitter will also come in handy mirroring the 2 front mic/heaphone jacks.

my current case is suitable for this project and its 4th 5.25" drive bay would allow for a fan controller. however with only 5 backplanes in use (2xUSB, GPU, SATA1, SATA2, TV/FMTUNER)

this fan controller looks ideal http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=695501
plenty of sensors for the raid arrays

how much power are these many drives in raid going to consume?

what to use the last slot for i wonder?


ultimately these modifications makes the rear of the pc decidedly rear and the front very tidy. accessing rear firewire/esata wont be the easiest

wainuitech
20-10-2013, 06:37 PM
To answer the last question, post #1 http://www.userful.com/products/userful-multiplatform

I've done multiseat with Windows when playing about one day - but never with Linux. ( have a look through that site: :)


For Windows based, I actually used MS's Multiseat software, there is also softxpand (http://www.miniframe.com/technology/softxpand.html) Downloaded it, but never tried it.

SolMiester
21-10-2013, 08:16 AM
Im not sure I understand what you are trying to achieve here?...4 PCs in one, but 1 display?

Mirddes
21-10-2013, 04:06 PM
Im not sure I understand what you are trying to achieve here?...4 PCs in one, but 1 display?

4 PCs in one; 4 displays

kinda like a mainframe

SolMiester
22-10-2013, 10:27 AM
Each to his own I guess, personally, I dont think a budget dual core going to be much fun for 4 PCs, Id rather use the system as a media
File server with maybe VDI Virtual machines for tablet connectivity...however let us know how you go.

Mirddes
22-10-2013, 11:47 AM
Each to his own I guess, personally, I dont think a budget dual core going to be much fun for 4 PCs, Id rather use the system as a media
File server with maybe VDI Virtual machines for tablet connectivity...however let us know how you go.

1.6ghz dual core with 2 directx11 GPUs

i remember how hard i used to push my 1.9ghz athlonXP 2600+ barton back in the day.


this is more than enough for web browsing, a software raid and watching videos.

even with multiple users.

and considring the unique for factor it definitely wasnt budget. the board cost ~$300


just gotta figure out how to consistently offload video processing to the gpus

Mirddes
22-10-2013, 11:51 AM
maybe i am open to using windows instead of linux. i have downloaded windows multipoint server 2011

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/multipoint/

consider with adequate hardware and license up to 20 clients are supported with one host, i am sure my hardware is more than capable for 4 clients.

an i7 would be enough for 20.

it really doesnt take much.

Mirddes
24-10-2013, 11:25 AM
ive got a problem

none of the video outputs show anything.

Mirddes
24-10-2013, 11:29 PM
seriously though how do i troubleshoot the lack of video?

Speedy Gonzales
24-10-2013, 11:41 PM
So what are you plugging the monitors into? The card you installed or the onboard inputs? And what CPU is on it?

Mirddes
25-10-2013, 12:07 AM
ive tried VGA onboard and VGA on the hd6450

its 1 1.6ghz amd e350 APU intergrated onto a uATX motherboard

Speedy Gonzales
25-10-2013, 12:13 AM
Try the ram in the other slot. ?? See if the slot is dead. Or try another stick the stick you've got maybe dead

Mirddes
25-10-2013, 12:54 AM
i wonder it its a dead powersupply, i have quite a few spares lying round.

i also have spare ram to test with.

what else could be causing this issue?

i shall also test without the graphics card. i have a hd4850 id rather not use but can if need be. sure raises the power consumption of the system though.

Mirddes
25-10-2013, 01:58 AM
seems it's still in warranty
i even still have the box

Mirddes
25-10-2013, 02:26 AM
http://support.asus.com/Troubleshooting/detail.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=E35M1-M%20PRO&p=1&s=40&os=30&hashedid=qSoDxhM5mAk1F607&no=978

Mirddes
28-10-2013, 02:32 PM
no beeps, cpu fan spins.

does anyone have an positive experience with warranties and dragonPC?

i have also decided a tv card is be best option for the spare PCI slot as it will provide composite in. this will allow for backing up of VHS and using my atari520STFM (my son can use my first computer as his first, in a few years, if it still works)

Mirddes
28-10-2013, 03:16 PM
dragon has informed me that it is 2 years into a 3 year warranty; to bring the board and the box in for testing.

can they charge me money if no fault is found?

Mirddes
06-11-2013, 10:42 PM
motherboard works fine, took it to dragonpc and they were unable to find any faults.

so a $40 service fee later i'm looking at a new psu (the only other culprit i can think of)


looks like ill be getting this one
http://www.pp.co.nz/products.php?pp_id=AA45868

SilverStone ST60F-PS - Power supply ( internal ) - ATX12V / EPS12V - 80 PLUS Silver - AC 100-240 V - 600 Watt - active PFC

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AA45868
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SST-ST60F-PS
Warranty Period:
3 Years



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