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sahilcc7
25-08-2013, 06:12 PM
My laptop was stolen and I'm looking at building a computer around the $1100 mark. It will mainly be used for internet, some video editing/photoshop and a bit of light gaming.

I put the following system together on this site: 2moroit.co.nz and it came to $1138.67. These are the specs:

Intel Core i5 4570 Haswell 3.2Ghz Socket 1150
Gigabyte/Asus intel B85 chipset Motherboard
8GB(8Gb x1) DDR3-1600 High Performance
500Gb Reliable/Performance Harddrive
Gigabyte GZ-M1 Black MicroATX Case No PSU
60Gb SSD SATA3 High Performance
Samsung SH-224BB 24x SATA Dual Layer DVD writer
550W(Max) Efficient Power Supply
Logitech MK270 wireless Keyboard and Mouse combo
Samsung S22B300B 22" (21.5" Viewable) Full HD
TP-LINK TL-WN781ND Wireless N 150Mbps PCI-E Card

I might add in a graphics card later on but I think the Intel 4600 graphics should be fine for me.

Are there any things you would change? I am happy to build myself or just buy prebuilt like the above site.


I don't mind what the rest of the components are but it must have:

Intel Haswell i5
60GB SSD
6-8GB RAM
Full HD monitor



Thanks in advance.

Slankydudl
25-08-2013, 06:20 PM
Correct me if i'm wrong but you haven't listed a graphics card in your list.
If your looking at only very light gaming (E.g. TF2) and you want to keep price down you may want to consider a low end workstation GPU.
But if your looking for anything more than what would be considered light gaming then a 7850 (around $300) may be your cheapest bet whilst still being able to serve for a decent amount of time.

sahilcc7
25-08-2013, 06:39 PM
Correct me if i'm wrong but you haven't listed a graphics card in your list.
If your looking at only very light gaming (E.g. TF2) and you want to keep price down you may want to consider a low end workstation GPU.
But if your looking for anything more than what would be considered light gaming then a 7850 (around $300) may be your cheapest bet whilst still being able to serve for a decent amount of time.

I was thinking the Intel 4600 integrated graphics would be able to handle *some* gaming. I saw a video of Battlefield 3 running decently on a 4600 i5.


Maybe I should try buy all the parts separately to put the cost down and then add in a graphics card..

Slankydudl
25-08-2013, 06:51 PM
That's not a bad idea (then again I don't know allot about integrated GPU's) but if your running integrated graphics its probably worth getting a half decent cpu cooler as the stock one wont go too far.
The best bang for your buck would probably be a hyper 212 evo cpu cooler, cheap as chips as far as coolers go and respectable cooling power.

icow
25-08-2013, 06:55 PM
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-4600.86106.0.html

I wouldn't hold out on the 4600...

Also that case is horrible (had one and hated it), but then again everything else for its price is also horrible.

inphinity
25-08-2013, 08:10 PM
Intel integrated graphics suck for gaming. Sorry, they may launch the game, but they're not, imo, playable @ 1920x1080, unless you're talking about playing Doom 2 or something. Even the HD4600 will only pull something like 10 - 15 fps @ 1920x1080 in games like BF3 or Bioshock Infinite. Also, is there a reason it must be a 60GB SSD? 120 is much more practical imo (and far better $/GB too).

wainuitech
25-08-2013, 09:38 PM
Theres No Operating system listed -- unless you are using some form of linux, which from all accounts is not the best for gaming ( from what I have heard)

pctek
26-08-2013, 08:26 AM
500Gb Reliable/Performance Harddrive
550W(Max) Efficient Power Supply

I might add in a graphics card later on but I think the Intel 4600 graphics should be fine for me.



Reliable harddrive? Really? When it doesn't state the brand??
Efficient power supply? Ditto - no brand?

Make sure you use quality brands for both these components.

And onboard graphics and gaming are a fail. You will need a proper graphics card - which one all depends on what games you intend to play. For gaming the graphics card is the single most important component in the entire build.

SolMiester
26-08-2013, 09:33 AM
60GB SSD?...really, I would get a bigger spindle and load up on RAM, its so cheap...you could have a RAM drive if you need a scratch drive for editing....

dugimodo
26-08-2013, 10:04 AM
The specs are fine apart from the concerns mentioned regarding the brands not listed. I agree a 60 GB SSD is difficult to manage also. I ran a 120 for a while then upgraded to a 256 and still could use a bit more at times.

Never heard of that website either, Do a comparison on ComputerLand and or pp.co.nz and see if they are competitive, both have a proven service track record with me.

For graphics, I'd build it as listed and see how it goes, just be prepared for the possibilty of adding in a graphics card later.

Slankydudl
26-08-2013, 10:29 AM
I had a 60gb SSD for my C drive at one stage, it was fast but it filled up so quickly.

sahilcc7
26-08-2013, 06:27 PM
What graphics card would you all recommend for my budget? Don't really mind if games don't run with full ultra graphics and stuff coz I'm definitely not a huge gamer...

I will definitely find out what brand the PSU/HDD/SSD's are. And probably get a 120gb or more SSD.

Do you think I'm being realistic getting a Haswell i5, 128/256gb SSD, 8GB RAM, Full HD monitor, 'Branded' PSU, 500gb HDD, Graphics Card for my budget of $1100? Or am I pushing it a bit?

I don't mind buying from different places to put the price down.

Slankydudl
26-08-2013, 06:30 PM
Well any gpu will work with most builds..... what is your budget for a gpu?

sahilcc7
26-08-2013, 06:38 PM
Probably $150-$200 if I can find other parts cheaper.

wainuitech
26-08-2013, 06:39 PM
A larger SSD will cost you plenty, so the price of $1100 WILL be pushing it if impossible. You would be better off forgetting about the SSD and putting the money towards a Graphic Card.

Really rough figures, depending on brands, a 128GB SSD + will be around $200, with 250GB $300.00 +.

So with the 250GB thats around 1/4 + of your budget on the SSD alone.

sahilcc7
26-08-2013, 06:44 PM
Alright, I'll probably get the SSD later then.

Slankydudl
26-08-2013, 07:39 PM
SSD's aren't necessary.... just nice. I would suggest an amd 7770 for your gpu
imho amd is better for low price gpu's atm

dugimodo
27-08-2013, 09:44 AM
From computerlounge's website as a reference/suggestion $1,190.07 with no OS

Combo Deal: $560.32
Combo: ASUS B85M-E Intel B85 mATX Haswell LGA1150
Combo: Intel Haswell Core i5 4570 3.20GHz 6MB LGA1150
Combo: Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 CL9 (KHX16C9T3K2/8X)

CoolerMaster HAF 912 Combat USB3.0 Mid Tower (RC-912-KKN2) 119.95
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 64MB Cache SATA3 $99.95
Seasonic SSP-550RT 550W 80Plus Gold Power Supply OEM (SSP-550RT) $159.95
ASUS DRW-24D3ST Green DVD Writer SATA $49.95
ASUS HD7770-DC-1GD5-V2 Radeon HD7770 Direct CU II 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E3.0 $199.95

sahilcc7
27-08-2013, 01:51 PM
From computerlounge's website as a reference/suggestion $1,190.07 with no OS

Combo Deal: $560.32
Combo: ASUS B85M-E Intel B85 mATX Haswell LGA1150
Combo: Intel Haswell Core i5 4570 3.20GHz 6MB LGA1150
Combo: Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 CL9 (KHX16C9T3K2/8X)

CoolerMaster HAF 912 Combat USB3.0 Mid Tower (RC-912-KKN2) 119.95
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 64MB Cache SATA3 $99.95
Seasonic SSP-550RT 550W 80Plus Gold Power Supply OEM (SSP-550RT) $159.95
ASUS DRW-24D3ST Green DVD Writer SATA $49.95
ASUS HD7770-DC-1GD5-V2 Radeon HD7770 Direct CU II 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E3.0 $199.95

That sounds pretty good. But a monitor and OS will probably go a bit out of the budget.

Has anyone ever bought from this site : http://alphacity.co.nz/ ?

COOLER MASTER G500 Series 500W
*Haswell Core I5-4670 3.4GHz*
Asus B85M-E Intel B85
WD Caviar Blue 1TB 64MB 7200rpm
Wifi Card
Powercase PA923 Mid Tower
Keyboard/Mouse Wireless
AOC E2260Swda 21.5 Full HD LED
Crucial 8GB DDR3 1600MHz
Sapphire HD7750 2G GDDR3
OS


For around $1200.

Driftwood
27-08-2013, 05:58 PM
http://pricespy.co.nz/forum/index.php?showtopic=464

Does seem to be a year old though

ChazTheGeek
27-08-2013, 06:54 PM
If you want a better case but under 100 bucks and has a bit more expansion room I'd go for the Cooler Master k280 or the Antec One.
They have more expandability than Powercase PA923. Just in case you want to add more HDD's or dual GPU's.

For PSU's go for Corsair, Antec, Silverstone or Enermax. I think FSP are pretty good as well.

If you look around you may be able to find a GTX 650 ti under $200. I think they are slightly better than the HD 7770.
On the other hand if you don't mind going second hand you could pick up a GTX 560 well under $200. The 560 will smash the HD 7770 and GTX 650 ti. In most cases.
E.g. http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/components/video-cards/pciexpress/auction-631451052.htm
Though you have to consider the danger of no warranty or an irresponsible seller.

Ebay is also an option. I bought my CPU and RAM from there and I saved over $100. Just don't buy second hand or from dodgy looking traders from Hong Kong with super cheap prices. Buy from actual Ebay stores. Shipping is a big deal also.

It's your choice.

icow
27-08-2013, 07:05 PM
If you look around you may be able to find a GTX 650 ti under $200. I think they are slightly better than the HD 7770.
On the other hand if you don't mind going second hand you could pick up a GTX 560 well under $200. The 560 will smash the HD 7770 and GTX 650 ti. In most cases.

Yeah the 650ti is slightly better than the 7770. From memory it goes: 650ti Boost > 7790 > 650ti > 7770

You should be able to get a 7790 for $200 (the direct CUII ones are $220) and you should easily be able to get a 650ti ($170?). I think the 650ti Boost is around $250. You probably won't get a gpu with 2gb VRAM for under $250 (keep that in mind, it's becoming more and more important to have over 1gb vram).

sahilcc7
28-08-2013, 06:52 PM
Would I be better off going with an AMD CPU and getting a slightly better gfx card + SSD instead? If so, what is the closest AMD equivalent to the i5 4670?

Or is the i5+GTX560/7770/650 the way to go?0

ChazTheGeek
28-08-2013, 07:20 PM
AMD is cheaper. But I'm not really too sure on the equivalent AMD CPU. I'd expect the i5 4670 to be about as good as the top AMD chips. But I'm not actually sure.
I'll leave that to the other members to answer.
You will definitely save money if you go AMD. As far as I know the motherboards are cheaper and so are the CPU's

Chilling_Silence
28-08-2013, 09:42 PM
I'd skimp on the CPU a little and get an AMD one. The HDD should be 1TB+ for the cost of a couple of bucks.

SSD, agreed, 120GB+ unless you want just one or two essentials on the SSD and can manage manually reconfiguring your OS to use the HDD for Desktop / Docs etc...

Definitely a brand name PSU, if you're going to run a graphics card later on.

Add the graphics card later and just expect to "not game" until you can save a bit. Its a harsh reality really...

inphinity
28-08-2013, 09:45 PM
Would I be better off going with an AMD CPU and getting a slightly better gfx card + SSD instead? If so, what is the closest AMD equivalent to the i5 4670?

Or is the i5+GTX560/7770/650 the way to go?0

For gaming, there isn't really an AMD equiavlent of the Ivy Bridge or Haswell i5s yet. An FX-8350 won't be *too* far behind, but they're only about $20 cheaper, so imo it's not worth the loss. If you think the difference is worth it, then the i5-4570 is probably a better choice. If you can streth for a GTX660, it would make a difference, especially at higher res.

Alternately, drop down a bit on CPU - AMDs FX-6350 is surprisingly good for it's price, and could get you an extra $80 or so towards a GPU upgrade.

sahilcc7
28-08-2013, 11:05 PM
Ordered the following from Alphacity. Will get a case (probably K280/Antec one as mentioned above) from pbtech locally to save on shipping. Then get the GFX card possibly from Trademe. There is a EVGA 570 for $220 and the other 560 you listed above. Might get one of those or get a new 7770 from pbtech.

1 x Asus B85M-E Intel B85 mATX Haswell Socket 1150 4x DDR3-1600 PCI-E3.0 CrossFireX USB3.0 SATA3 Onboard VGA/DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort (B85M-E)
1 x Crucial 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Non-ECC (CT102464BA160B)
1 x TP-LINK TL-WN881ND 300Mbps Wireless N PCI-E Express Adapter (TL-WN881ND)
1 x Intel Latest processor Haswell Core i5-4670 3.4GHz 6MB LGA1150 (B85, H87,Z87 Motherboard (BX80646I54670)
1 x Logitech MK270 Wireless Desktop Kit (920-004498)
1 x Seagate BARRACUDA 1TB SATA 3.5" 7200RPM 64MB (ST1000DM003)
1 x Cooler Master Thunder 600W ATX12V PSU Retail Box (RS600-ACABD3-AU)
1 x AOC e2260Swda 21.5 Full HD LED Monitor - Full HD1920 x1080p, 20,000,000:1 Contrast (DCR), 5ms, DVI+VGA, Speakers VESA (e2260Swda)

ChazTheGeek
29-08-2013, 07:58 PM
A solid Intel choice. Nice to see you saved a bit of dough on a mATX board. Hope the build goes well for you :).

ChazTheGeek
29-08-2013, 08:16 PM
You can save money on the case if you buy a k280 from PC Online Shop. Their one is 76.00 including shipping. I have bought from them and they have good service.
Or you can get an Antec One from Ktech for $71.00 including shipping.

The difference between the two is that the k280 can fit bigger GPU's and holds up to seven HDDs and three 5.25 drives. But can only support 3 120mm fans.
The Antec One supports 5 HDDs. 5 120mm fans. The HDD drive bay is also facing the back so you won't get HDDs blocking the MB.

They both have basic cable management.

sahilcc7
29-08-2013, 11:20 PM
Bought the K280 from pbtech for $90. Would you recommend getting this: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=630126342 ?

ChazTheGeek
30-08-2013, 06:04 PM
Well, If you don't mind having no warranty. Yeah. Go for it. Seems like a responsible trader. If you buy second hand PC components always ask for bubble wrap, anti-stat bags and a box. This seller will already do it so that's a bonus. Some sellers don't have a clue about packing highly sensitive equipment.

Depending on how old the card is and weather the card still has the serial number sticker, you still you may be still able claim warranty from EVGA direct if you have problems.
But you shouldn't have problems as the card seems to be in good condition.

icow
30-08-2013, 06:25 PM
Bought the K280 from pbtech for $90. Would you recommend getting this: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=630126342 ?

Not when you can get a (new) 650ti Boost which is of comparable performance, newer, cooler, quieter and less power hungry for only $30 more.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/831?vs=782

http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=1779207

icow
31-08-2013, 08:40 AM
Not when you can get a (new) 650ti Boost which is of comparable performance, newer, cooler, quieter and less power hungry for only $30 more.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/831?vs=782

http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=1779207

Just noticed it isn't actually cooler and is just as quiet. But you get the idea.

ChazTheGeek
31-08-2013, 12:05 PM
Not when you can get a (new) 650ti Boost which is of comparable performance, newer, cooler, quieter and less power hungry for only $30 more.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/831?vs=782

http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=1779207

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