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ruup
18-12-2012, 02:44 PM
Need a caption for this photo...

4595

"Did I tell the one about the brighter future?"

pcuser42
18-12-2012, 02:47 PM
The opposite of the Three Wise Men

kenj
18-12-2012, 02:51 PM
Potential new mods for this forum.

Ken

Gobe1
18-12-2012, 03:04 PM
John, "Obesity is a problem in NZ"
Jerry "hmmmmmmm"

Gobe1
18-12-2012, 03:05 PM
Pouble Dost

ruup
18-12-2012, 03:09 PM
How about...The Good ,The Bad and The Ugly (you choose which is which) or the "Three Stooges" except it's not a joke is it?

Chilling_Silence
18-12-2012, 03:39 PM
Potential new mods for this forum.

Hey! I resemble that ;)

pcuser42
18-12-2012, 04:18 PM
The Good

Can't be that...

Gobe1
18-12-2012, 04:20 PM
"we can afford an extra 9 cents per litre why cant everyone?"

QW.
18-12-2012, 04:23 PM
Jerry Brownlee - When is lunch.
John Key - Well we are giving more money to..........
Steven Joyce - Zzzzzzzzzzz

CYaBro
18-12-2012, 04:28 PM
Duh...

B.M.
18-12-2012, 04:30 PM
Need a caption for this photo...

4595

"Did I tell the one about the brighter future?"

Your one and up one. :D

4597

Suckers. :banana

Billy T
18-12-2012, 05:19 PM
Yes, I'm aware of the allegation that Gerry just farted, but I have no recollection of that event...........

Billy *<8-{)=

ruup
18-12-2012, 06:54 PM
[QUOTE=B.M.;1137243]Your one and up one. :D

4597

Mine doesn't stink!

prefect
18-12-2012, 07:00 PM
The three hard working and clever politicians who rescued NZ from recession and 9 years of commie rule.

Bobh
18-12-2012, 08:00 PM
Look you guys. My chief concern is not how the NZ public feels about the extra tax on petrol. My main concern at the moment is how I am going to spend the extra money that I will get from my pay rise.

pcuser42
18-12-2012, 08:14 PM
Look you guys. My chief concern is not how the NZ public feels about the extra tax on petrol. My main concern at the moment is how I am going to spend the extra money that I will get from my pay rise.

Paid for by the petrol tax hike. ;)

KarameaDave
18-12-2012, 08:25 PM
The three devious and criminal nest-featherers who plunged NZ into recession following 9 years of labour-led record growth.Fixed

zqwerty
18-12-2012, 08:28 PM
LOl prefect, that's so funny.

My caption "the beagle boys 2012 version".

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=the+beagle+boys&hl=en&client=firefox-beta&hs=91Y&tbo=u&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=kSbQUKqLOYq0iQfEpYH4Dg&ved=0CDsQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=893

B.M.
18-12-2012, 08:37 PM
[QUOTE=B.M.;1137243]Your one and up one. :D

4597

Mine doesn't stink!

Ok, up another.:D

QW.
18-12-2012, 09:13 PM
Ok, up another.:D

Am I that bad looking?

ruup
19-12-2012, 05:57 AM
[QUOTE=ruup;1137265]

Ok, up another.:D

The Ugly face of Politics!...Thank God for airbrushing!

gary67
19-12-2012, 07:41 AM
"This won't hurt John" says Jerry

"Oh that's not as big as I thought Jerry"

as Brownlee gives John Key the same shafting as he has given the country

zqwerty
19-12-2012, 08:47 AM
Very funny gary67, lol, lol, lol.

Also BM, very good picture alteration, very effective.

bk T
19-12-2012, 11:40 AM
The three hard working and clever politicians ...

They maybe clever but definitely NOT hardworking, otherwise, they wont't be sitting in the beehives warming their b$%^%^ a%^^&!

Chilling_Silence
19-12-2012, 01:30 PM
"we can afford an extra 9 cents per litre why cant everyone?"

At the risk of derailing the thread, I can't believe people are honestly crying about an increase in what amounts to $1.20 a week increase (For a full 40L tank, one tank per week). Geez the price fluctuates more than that much in a 12 month period regardless...

Not aimed at you Gobe1, just saying in general ;)

ruup
19-12-2012, 01:59 PM
At the risk of derailing the thread, I can't believe people are honestly crying about an increase in what amounts to $1.20 a week increase (For a full 40L tank, one tank per week). Geez the price fluctuates more than that much in a 12 month period regardless...

Not aimed at you Gobe1, just saying in general ;)

It's not just the $1.20 it's all the flow on costs re transport in particular.They in my experience have NEVER gone down again,once they have risen,correct me if I'm wrong.Cheers

QW.
19-12-2012, 02:59 PM
At the risk of derailing the thread, I can't believe people are honestly crying about an increase in what amounts to $1.20 a week increase (For a full 40L tank, one tank per week). Geez the price fluctuates more than that much in a 12 month period regardless...


The ones that will really suffer are the transport operators and the consumers. Food prices will rise yet again and everything else will go up because the cost of fuel has.

bk T
19-12-2012, 03:29 PM
When petrol price is up, everything will just follow up. It's going to be very tough years ahead.

Of course, we don't expect those millionares and multi-millionares to understand the hardships of an ordinary wage earner.

Do you think that those multi-millionare politicians care about us? Yes, they are very clever, very clever indeed in looking after their own pockets and interests.

I dislike (to be more precise, HATE) POLITICIANS. I look down on them, especially the present bunch in the beehives.

zqwerty
19-12-2012, 04:06 PM
$3.60/40L not $1.20

Chilling_Silence
19-12-2012, 04:34 PM
$3.60/40L not $1.20

per-year... it's 3c per-year, so $1.20 more this year, then an additional $1.20 the year after, and another $1.20 the year after.

I remember prices plummeting a few years back. I think it was down around 70c per-litre or something?

gary67
19-12-2012, 07:03 PM
I remember prices plummeting a few years back. I think it was down around 70c per-litre or something?

Not in the eleven years I have been here

bk T
19-12-2012, 07:04 PM
... around 70c per-litre or something?

70c/l ? That sounds like when I was first arrived in NZ 20+ yrs ago! :D

plod
19-12-2012, 07:13 PM
per-year... it's 3c per-year, so $1.20 more this year, then an additional $1.20 the year after, and another $1.20 the year after.

I remember prices plummeting a few years back. I think it was down around 70c per-litre or something?right chill, when I was a petroleum transfer technician back in 1991, 91 was from memory 79.9, it hasn't been that price in at least your adult life. How many 3 cent increases will you tolerate, don't forget to add gst to that 3 cents. Then the bottom of our dollar falling out. Just wait till you have kids and all that disposable income of yours has gone.

Erayd
19-12-2012, 08:17 PM
Just to put this in context for those whinging about the tax increase, assuming petrol costs $2.089/L:
The tax component of petrol is currently 44.3%, or $0.92 ($0.61/L fixed costs plus 15% GST).
An increase of $0.03/L is an additional 1.4% of the total cost ($0.03 / $2.089)...
An increase of $0.03/L is an additional 3.2% of the tax component ($0.03 / $0.92).
NZ's average inflation for the last five years (i.e. during the recession) has been 2.73%.
An increase of $0.03/L is less than 0.5% more than inflation.
0.5% of a 40L tank is $0.42 (0.2L * $2.089).
Assuming 40L per week, that's $20.42 of 'real' increase per year.
The corresponding increase in general freight cost is, per taxpayer, negligibly small, and dwarfed by normal market activity.

What all this means is that you're all whinging about what, for a typical petrol user, is the annual equivalent of a single box of cheap beer (dozen tui cans).

While complaining about box of cheap beer may be satisfying, there's a lot more of your money going down the gurgler in other areas - so shouldn't those areas be correspondingly more worthy of your attention?

pcuser42
19-12-2012, 08:20 PM
Unfortunately with the rise of fuel costs (as insignificant as it seems) comes a rise in transportation costs and therefore pretty much everything, so the pain is not only at the pump.

Erayd
19-12-2012, 08:25 PM
Unfortunately with the rise of fuel costs (as insignificant as it seems) comes a rise in transportation costs and therefore pretty much everything, so the pain is not only at the pump.Yep, but a 3c/L annual rise is negligible in the context of normal market activity - unless you buy a hell of a lot of shipped goods (and by that I mean orders of magnitude more than your typical individual), you won't notice the change.

plod
19-12-2012, 08:37 PM
My gripe is that the excuse for the increase was to fund roading projects, fair enough. Now we are being told it is so the government will make surplus in 2015, by 66million. I thought that was the reason behind the sale of the SOE. Is it really worth it just so the government can say they made sulus when who knows what will happen the following year. Interestingly is that the tax take on petrol has dropped over the last couple of years as the public have been wiser where we drive and also what we drive. Buying more fuel efficient cars.

plod
19-12-2012, 08:39 PM
Yep, but a 3c/L annual rise is negligible in the context of normal market activity - unless you buy a hell of a lot of shipped goods (and by that I mean orders of magnitude more than your typical individual), you won't notice the change.supermarkets buy a lot of shipped goods, soon the whole store will be loss leading

Erayd
19-12-2012, 08:41 PM
My gripe is that the excuse for the increase was to fund roading projects, fair enough. Now we are being told it is so the government will make surplus in 2015, by 66million.The former is the reason (and that's where all the extra income is being directed), the latter is a happy side-effect.

The same side-effect could just as easily be achieved through other means, and by the same token can also be attributed to any cost-cutting measure you care to point a finger at. The petrol tax change is just the latest to hit the spotlight - in a couple of weeks it'll be something else.


supermarkets buy a lot of shipped goods, soon the whole store will be loss leadingThey do, but they also sell a lot of shipped goods. If you look at the actual cents-per-grocery-cartload, you won't notice the change.

While the actual dollar figure involved may be large for something like a supermarket chain, the percentage is still extremely small, and it's the percentage that counts here. Claiming that a change this small will cause the stores to run at a loss unless they noticeably hike their prices is ludicrous - the proportionate cost of the tax increase is negligible.

pcuser42
19-12-2012, 08:42 PM
My gripe is that the excuse for the increase was to fund roading projects

Despite falling traffic levels :rolleyes:

Chilling_Silence
20-12-2012, 12:35 AM
supermarkets buy a lot of shipped goods, soon the whole store will be loss leading
You've also got to remember that while they ship in all their goods, so does everybody. Shipping is only a small fraction of the cost. Where I work, shipping good in is around 2%, say $2,500 worth of goods costs $50 to get shipped.
Lets say the price increases a grand whopping total of 5% as a result of the *raw* gas prices. That means what was $50 is now $52.50.
Market prices go up and down, exchange rates go up and down, sometimes more than that in a day. Not worth bothering with.