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G-Boy
26-11-2012, 06:32 PM
Hi there all,
Me eye sight is starting to get worse, but I do enjoy the odd bit of online gaming, I have at present, a Acer Aspire M391O Mother board, 8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz, ATI Radeon HD 5570 (Sapphire), Intel Core i5 650 @ 3.20GHz,(Clarkdale)
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. I have about $450.00 to spend on a graphics card and a power supply. Could any one suggest the best card and power supply for my money? And would I see a good gain? I mostly play Battle Feild3, It plays the game ok at present, but I do have the settings on low, A little more eye candy would be nice :) Thanks

Slankydudl
26-11-2012, 06:53 PM
gpu: http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=17904 or http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=16607
psu: http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=16992

my suggestions

dugimodo
26-11-2012, 08:54 PM
What's your current power supply?

Another suggestion;
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=16952
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=17903

Better Graphics card and cheaper power supply ends up about the same price. 500W should be enough but run your specs through http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp to check

icow
26-11-2012, 09:27 PM
http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=1207582 and a nVidia 660 GTX or a 7870. I think the 660 is better from memory.

If the psu isn't big enough go up to this: http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=884952 that will probably limit you to only a 7870 though, unless the 660's have come down in price.

Edit: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/548?vs=660 seems the 7870 is slightly better. Unless you are only going to play BF3, in which case you want and nVidia card anyway.

Slankydudl
26-11-2012, 10:06 PM
dude if my rig can easily run on a 500w psu then im sure his will be fine

G-Boy
27-11-2012, 09:43 PM
http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=1207582 and a nVidia 660 GTX or a 7870. I think the 660 is better from memory.

If the psu isn't big enough go up to this: http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=884952 that will probably limit you to only a 7870 though, unless the 660's have come down in price.

Edit: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/548?vs=660 seems the 7870 is slightly better. Unless you are only going to play BF3, in which case you want and nVidia card anyway.


Why would I want a NVidia if I played BF3?

Slankydudl
27-11-2012, 11:31 PM
Because typically nvidia cards get slightly better fps on bf3 but that is a null point when it comes to price for performance.

icow
28-11-2012, 11:42 AM
Because typically nvidia cards get slightly better fps on bf3 but that is a null point when it comes to price for performance.

Pretty much. In bf3 benchmarks the 7970 is compared to the 670 more often than the 680 (which it is usually compared to). I think the fps difference gets greater the higher up you go in card hierarchy. Not sure if it's such a problem with lower end cards. It appears the 7870 is about 8 to 10 fps behind the 660 in Bf3. Whether you'll notice those extra 8 fps and if you think the extra money is worth it is up to you. The other game this tends to happen in is portal 2 (you see a slightly bigger than normal performance gap between amd and nvidia). Probably worth noting that chances are bf3 benchmarks are done in campaign, hard to tell what the performance difference in multiplayer is if there is any.

Slankydudl
28-11-2012, 11:51 AM
Perhaps its due to the destructible terrain that bf3 has which takes better use of physx thus givig the nvidia card the better fps. But you can always get a lower end nvidia card and use it with your amd one to get physx.

icow
28-11-2012, 12:15 PM
I think it's just a driver optimization issue. The game was probably developed on nvidia cards. Physx doesn't do much. From what I've seen it just tends to break things.

Slankydudl
28-11-2012, 12:20 PM
Yeah but it certainly helps in benchmarks, i have a low end nvidia card from last year which beats my 7950 (i5 2500) in physics rendering by about 40fps.

G-Boy
28-11-2012, 01:41 PM
Ok, Im thinking maybe I could stretch to the HD 7870,.. Do the brands.. eg.. HIS ati, Gigabyte , matter at all?. Also is there a possibility having a "HD 5570" at the mo, that this "HD 7870" would not fit into my computer? Do the fans always sit to the bottom? Thanks

icow
28-11-2012, 01:50 PM
Asus and Gigabyte are the better brands. Sapphire is pretty good too. There aren't really any terrible brands. Unless you have a very small case the 7870 should fit. They aren't particularly big. Fans on GPU's almost always face the same direction (relative to the motherboard).

Slankydudl
28-11-2012, 02:27 PM
if you don't want to pay for asus/gigabyte then defiantly sapphire is great value for price, never had a problem with one of their products and a brand new asus 7950 was DOA sooooo, no it doesn't really matter.