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tigerj2
24-11-2012, 05:33 PM
I am looking for a graphics card available on pbtech.co.nz to buy for around the $150-$200 mark.

My PSU specs are:

The powersupply is this one http://www.aywun.com/ProductDetails.asp?ID=57
AC input: Voltage 230 v, Current 4.0 A, Frequency 50-60MHz
A1-3000 Max power 420W

My mother board is:

M4N68T-M v2 with AMD Athlon (tm) II x2 255 3.10ghz processor


Thanks for the help :D

Cheers

Cato
24-11-2012, 06:04 PM
For 150-200:
http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=VGAEVG2650&name=EVGA-GeForce-GTX650-1GB-128-bit-GDDR5-PCI-Express-

Seems reasonable.

I wouldn't trust your PSU.

The X2 255 will be your biggest bottleneck - if you have a decent-ish card right now, don't bother with the upgrade.

tigerj2
24-11-2012, 06:16 PM
For 150-200:
http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=VGAEVG2650&name=EVGA-GeForce-GTX650-1GB-128-bit-GDDR5-PCI-Express-

Seems reasonable.

I wouldn't trust your PSU.

The X2 255 will be your biggest bottleneck - if you have a decent-ish card right now, don't bother with the upgrade.

Is there anything under the 150 dollar price range that you can recommend? btw im using on board graphics right now and it's really annoying playing a low graphic mmo at 10 fps or less
I mean I am looking for a graphic card which can fit my specs and play a game at a reasonable fps without lag. E.g Skyrim or Call of duty modern warfare 3

cheers

icow
24-11-2012, 06:27 PM
Under $150 the 7750 is your best option, requires no external power. If you're going up to $200 I'd try and get a 7770. As stated above though, I wouldn't trust your psu.

tigerj2
24-11-2012, 06:31 PM
Under $150 the 7750 is your best option, requires no external power. If you're going up to $200 I'd try and get a 7770. As stated above though, I wouldn't trust your psu.

Can you recommend me a psu on pbtech for me please?also what would happen if i try to use the 7750 with my current psu? what would be the consequences of this?

Cato
24-11-2012, 06:42 PM
E.g Skyrim or Call of duty modern warfare 3

cheers

Honestly, you will not see anything good from this. Will be a waste of money buying those games.
MW3's minimum specs are better than you CPU - not by much, but just points out that you will have a terrible experience.

Your CPU is just too old. Sorry.

tigerj2
24-11-2012, 06:44 PM
Honestly, you will not see anything good from this. Will be a waste of money buying those games.
MW3's minimum specs are better than you CPU - not by much, but just points out that you will have a terrible experience.

Your CPU is just too old. Sorry.

what if it was a game like dota 2? i dont even mind playing on lowest graphics

Cato
24-11-2012, 06:49 PM
http://dota.wikia.com/wiki/Dota_2#Official_System_Requirements

Based on that, you should be fine.

tigerj2
24-11-2012, 06:54 PM
http://dota.wikia.com/wiki/Dota_2#Official_System_Requirements

Based on that, you should be fine.

Can you recommend a psu that will fit the needs of the sapphire hd 7750 2gb? preferably a psu that costs around 100

Cato
24-11-2012, 07:06 PM
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=16811

PBTech is same price + GST... Tell them to match price or something, do that for everything you buy.

http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=PSUCLM0525&name=COOLER-MASTER-525W-eXtreme-Power2-dual-+12V-output

tigerj2
24-11-2012, 07:08 PM
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=16811

PBTech is same price + GST... Tell them to match price or something, do that for everything you buy.

http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=PSUCLM0525&name=COOLER-MASTER-525W-eXtreme-Power2-dual-+12V-output

thanks mate you have been extremely helpful :) i will get the 7750 and the cooler master 525W extreme power 2

icow
24-11-2012, 07:16 PM
Honestly, you will not see anything good from this. Will be a waste of money buying those games.
MW3's minimum specs are better than you CPU - not by much, but just points out that you will have a terrible experience.

Your CPU is just too old. Sorry.

It can pull 50+ fps in dirt2 on max. Games aren't really cpu intensive (for the most part), I think that there would be no problem playing mw3 on a 255. Considering it still uses the same engine from COD4. You can only try.

Consequences of using a dodgy psu with a gpu are basically the GPU may put more load on the PSU than it can handle (even though it technically should be able to handle it, cheap parts perform badly) causing the psu to die in a spectacular fashion. This could damage other components in your pc.

Cato
24-11-2012, 08:01 PM
Skyrim isn't as bad as oblivion, but it'll still be bad on lower end machine. It is quite CPU intensive.

I don't know about MW3, I was going by the requirements here: http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Call_of_Duty:_Modern_Warfare_3

pctek
25-11-2012, 01:36 PM
I am looking for a graphics card available on pbtech.co.nz to buy for around the $150-$200 mark.
The powersupply is this one http://www.aywun.com/ProductDetails.asp?ID=57


Forget the GPU, change the PSU immediately, they are the second worst next to Hyena.

Slankydudl
25-11-2012, 02:11 PM
Any game that uses alot of physics will use alot of cpu if your running an amd card as their is no physx support, but then again physx is only usefull on higher end nvidia gpu's

tigerj2
25-11-2012, 04:43 PM
Forget the GPU, change the PSU immediately, they are the second worst next to Hyena.

would this one http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=16811 recommended by Cato work? if not can you suggest a psu around the 100 dollar mark that would?

Slankydudl
25-11-2012, 05:04 PM
It will work for sure but to get a okay quality psu its around $180 for the 450w mark, however a 350w could probably easily run your rig if a 460w can run mine (as in description). But also brands make a difference. Corsair is my prefered brand as they are reasonably priced and all four of their OEMs are quality.

icow
25-11-2012, 05:22 PM
I'd go with any of these, all quality brands: http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=1207582 or http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=684670 or http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=1502635

dugimodo
26-11-2012, 03:05 PM
If you were building a new machine then sure the CPU is too weak, but as you have it already then adding a graphics card is not a bad Idea and will let you play quite a lot of games perfectly fine. I'm sure you are aware some new games will simply not play on that machine no matter what, but most will be ok.

Cooler master PSU's are ok in my opinion, they are not up to the standard of corsair or seasonic etc and tend to overstate the wattage rating, but they don't have the reputation Hyena does either.
I've owned several and never had one die on me, having said that Computerlounge and pp.co.nz have some good brands around the $100 mark.

Personally I'd agree with the 7750/ 7770 + new PSU recommendations and suggest if your games struggle you keep an eye on trademe for a cheap PhenomII x3 or x4 that'd fit on your motherboard - sometimes you get lucky and the combination is actually still a fairly competant gaming machine.