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IT illiterate old guy
17-09-2012, 04:43 AM
Do any of you smarties know how I can get my Hi-8 movies into my computer which has a Windows 7 OS. I have just bought a SONY digital Hi-8 camera with all the cables and a couple of cards. I downloaded the latest USB software from SONY so I could copy my analog tapes thro' the digital camera straight to my computer, but when I tried to install it, it said it couldn't download with this version of Windows.......... stupid thing !

kingdragonfly
17-09-2012, 08:47 AM
This is very simple, once you know the key words.

There's two variations. You could install a memory card reader in your PC. Often this will work.

But there's an alternate that always works, even with BetaMax cameras (I'm showing my age). Remember the days when you hooked up your camera to the TV?

You would hook your camera up to it via RCA (OK quality) or "S"-video connectors (better quality), and hit the "play" button on your camera to see it. You'd usually need RCA audio cables also, to hear the video.

First I'd suggest getting comfortable hooking your camera up to your TV first, so you can get the cabling sorted.

With some very USB cheap hardware, you can do this same to your PC. "USB" is that square connectors on the front and back of your PC. The cable will have "USB Standard Type A plug". It's probably already connected to your keyboard and mouse.

This shows the various connectors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RCA_connector
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S_video
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usb

Any computer store can help you.

If you want to buy it on-line, try here

Ascent, DV & video capture

http://www.ascent.co.nz/category.aspx?majorcatID=19

On product filter, choose "USB 2.0"

Trev
17-09-2012, 10:08 AM
As I have already mentioned in another post you could connect it up to a DVD/Hardrive recorder, record to the hardrive then burn to DVD.
:)

BBCmicro
17-09-2012, 10:08 AM
Are the analogue tapes 8mm? To be replayed on the digital camera?

(or are they VHS tapes/8mm analogue tapes to be replayed externally and fed 'through' the digital camera?)

Not all (possibly hardly any?) Sony tape-based digital 8mm videocameras can replay analogue tapes. Some can take in analogue video via connectors and record it to tape, which, when replayed, provides digital video to a computer's Firewire port. (I've got a 13-year old Sony camera that will do both of these functions)

Alternatingly, you could do what I think kingdragonfly is saying - replay the analogue tapes any way you are able to, and capture with a USB analogue video capture stick plugged into your computer. Sticks cost about $100 and come with their own cables and software - no need for Sony software

Speedy Gonzales
17-09-2012, 01:41 PM
Does it have firewire on it?

IT illiterate old guy
17-09-2012, 07:03 PM
Yes Sir, it does ...........

Speedy Gonzales
17-09-2012, 07:05 PM
Use that instead. All you need is a PCI firewire card (if its a desktop). And a program that can transfer the video from it to the computer. It'd be better than USB

BBCmicro
17-09-2012, 09:04 PM
Sony's Firewire importing software, which also dubs as a media organiser (called PictureMotionBrowser), can be fussy about the source of the video. If it thinks the video wasn't taken on a Sony camera it might refuse to import it. Sometimes it refuses even if the camera is Sony

The answer is to use Pinnacle or (that other common one whose name escapes me). I use Adobe

IT illiterate old guy
18-09-2012, 04:42 AM
Firstly thanks to all for trying to help me. It is very much appreciated.

After all the suggestions and questions I have learned a lot and this is the updated situation .....................
1. I am trying to get analog HI-8 film tapes to DVD.
2. I have just bought a Digital Hi-8 Sony camera (DCR-TRV340E) WITHOUT a firewire connection.
3. The connections on the camera are: S Video out, A/V out, DV out and a USB connector (a little one).
4. My DVD player does not record.
5. The latest SONY USB sofware on the SONY website does not allow me to use my Windows 7 OS.

I suppose I could find a computer with an earlier version of Windows OS. The documentation says it is good for 98SE,Me, 2000 Professional & XP. However, now you know the truth about my situation should I be considering another solution ?

Best Regards from a little wiser IT ignorant old git ...

kingdragonfly
18-09-2012, 09:49 AM
As you've mentioned, the USB connection is useless for Windows 7 till Sony updates the driver.

Using a USB stick is the easiest and cheapest solution, since it doesn't involve opening your computer case. It's also considerably cheaper than buying a DVR with a DVD recorder.

As with many cheap and easy solutions, it doesn't create the best results. However it's certainly "watchable"

To break down the project,

1) GET COMFORTABLE WITH CAMERA AND AUDIO/VISUAL CABLES

You first need to get comfortable with playing a video from your camera and the audio/visual cabling. This is why I suggested hooking it up to a TV as a first step.

See previous post.

2) RECORD VIDEO TO YOUR PC

Once you're comfortable getting the audio / video out of the camera, it's simple to use a USB device to record it. Any computer store can help you.

If you want to buy it on-line, try here

Ascent, DV & video capture

http://www.ascent.co.nz/category.aspx?majorcatID=19

On product filter, choose "USB 2.0"

3) "BURN" VIDEO TO DVD

I'm not going to cover this here, but it's pretty simple to "burn" (copy) the video to DVD, once it's on your computer.

Just drop us a line here once you've gotten the video onto your computer.

Hope this helps.

linw
18-09-2012, 10:28 AM
There is no reason that you can't use this camera for recording from the HI8 analog tapes. It is just a matter of the connection to the computer.

I would run Windows Movie Maker and plug the camera into the computer via the USB cable and see if WMM will see the output. It may not need a driver at all.

It can't do any harm trying the simple route as it will only take a few minutes.

If that doesn't work, other physical connections will be needed. I have also used an A/V to USB device to record from a VCR but try the above suggestion first.

linw
18-09-2012, 10:46 AM
Mmmm, looks like the USBDRVEN is needed Found (http://www.designstudioschool.com/dcr-trv340e-usb-driver-not-working-windows-t207698.html) where a guy has uploaded a Win 7 (32 bit only) driver to Driver guide.

Also, have you tried installing the driver in compatibility mode (choose XP)?

IT illiterate old guy
18-09-2012, 10:14 PM
Many thanks M8.

IT illiterate old guy
19-09-2012, 05:47 AM
Hi again guys, I am learning fast, (for me that is). What do you think about using Pinnacle software ? It claims to be able to capture my video's thro S-Video.

kingdragonfly
19-09-2012, 08:28 AM
I've used Pinnacle before. Perfect for your needs.

http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/Dazzle/Dazzle+Video+Archiving/Dazzle+Video+Creator+Plus+HD.htm

KarameaDave
19-09-2012, 10:14 AM
The camera has DV out you say? That should be firewire IEEE 1394, 4 conductor (small square hole that looks squashed in on the top or bottom)?
Then all you would need is a $3 usb to firewire adapter cable off trade me.

IT illiterate old guy
19-09-2012, 10:34 PM
It is as you say, a small square connector that loooks squashed on the bottom. So exactly what cables do I need to get to my computer ?:stare:

Speedy Gonzales
19-09-2012, 11:07 PM
Something like this (http://www.dicksmith.co.nz/dsnz/search/dsnz_search_results.jsp), but I think there is also a 4 pin cable. So, you may have to find out how many pins are in this dv connection. If its got firewire on it


If it looks like this its firewire / 1394 (http://simplydv.com/info-base/pages/about_firewire.html). Take the cam into whatever shop to see which cable, you should get

KarameaDave
19-09-2012, 11:41 PM
It is 4 pin on DV cameras
http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/cables-adaptors/usb/auction-513903477.htm
as an example.
Sorry it says not for SONY?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/cables-adaptors/usb/auction-513562013.htm
Might work.
Or as Speedy suggests try taking the camera to a Dick Smith or someone to check if it will work.
What sort of computer are we talking about as some have a firewire connector built in or can have one fitted.