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hsvman12
20-07-2012, 09:31 PM
Hi,

My partner is looking at upgrading her old PC. She is looking to spend around $1500. She doesn't do any major gaming (does play the odd game on her 24inch - but not with all the eye candy turned on), but wants something that will see her through a few years to come.

She's asked for my advice and we've been looking at a ivy bridge i5 3550 or 3570K for the cpu and spending around $200-$300 on a cheap mid-ish range GPU.

So, any thoughts on the cpu - the 3550 vs the 3570K - will these be good, or overkill. Any any recommendations on a graphics card?

Cheers for your help.

Andrew

ChazTheGeek
20-07-2012, 09:57 PM
GTX 550 Ti or a GTX 560 Ti if you like the Nvidia side of things. If you prefer ATi an HD 7770 or HD 7750 would do the job too, these even give the enthusiast cards HD 7950 and HD 7970 a good run for their money. So these are a serious bang for your buck . These cards are mid range and will handle about anything. If you want to go to entry level there is the GeForce GT 520, GeForce GT 610, GTS 450 these cards aren't nearly as good as a mid range card.
The CPU's will do fine but the 3570K is a lot more power full and has an extra 4 virtual core when hyperthreading so basically a 8 Core and is great for overclocking. If you don't do too much CPU intensive work and multitasking the 3550 will be sufficient.

icow
20-07-2012, 10:47 PM
7770 or higher imo. Anything lower won't last.

ChazTheGeek
21-07-2012, 12:08 PM
Right you are.

Slankydudl
21-07-2012, 12:22 PM
and the 3570 does not have 8 virtual cores as it is an i5 processor thus does not support hyperthreading, that beign said 4 cores is plenty.

Iantech
21-07-2012, 12:48 PM
The CPU's will do fine but the 3570K is a lot more power full and has an extra 4 virtual core when hyperthreading so basically a 8 Core and is great for overclocking. What?? I think you better go do some homework because it doesnt. It is only a 4 core (with 4 threads). Its the i7 (3770k for example) that has 4 cores and 8 threads.

Slankydudl
21-07-2012, 12:54 PM
Well i did just say exactly that but the more the merryer :P

ChazTheGeek
21-07-2012, 03:17 PM
What?? I think you better go do some homework because it doesnt. It is only a 4 core (with 4 threads). Its the i7 (3770k for example) that has 4 cores and 8 threads.

Thanks for correcting me. Just need to think about what I'm saying. Yes the 3770k is the one with 8 threads and 4 cores.

McRuff
21-07-2012, 03:52 PM
The i5 3570 looks like a really nice CPU for the price, here is a cpu benchmark page. I don't think you would need the K variant unless you planned to overclock

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

Also just purchased a GTX560 (non TI) for my Home Theatre Computer. They seem to have had a price drop recently and is a good option.

ChazTheGeek
21-07-2012, 07:10 PM
Yeah the price has dropped a bit.

hsvman12
22-07-2012, 05:05 PM
Thanks for all the great advice. So, it seems worthwhile spending a bit more to get the 3570, but not the 'k' version. Any thoughts on whether its better to get the 7770 or GTX560?

Also, any thoughts on a motherboard - she won't be needing all the extras.

Nick G
22-07-2012, 05:47 PM
Thanks for all the great advice. So, it seems worthwhile spending a bit more to get the 3570, but not the 'k' version. Any thoughts on whether its better to get the 7770 or GTX560?

Also, any thoughts on a motherboard - she won't be needing all the extras.
Don't know brands, but do make sure the chipset is compatible with the mobo.

Driftwood
22-07-2012, 06:05 PM
Ah, motherboard, which brand & which chipset?
This has always been the hard part for me when building a new system.

pine-o-cleen
22-07-2012, 06:14 PM
Easiest way is to have a look at the motherboard, cpu and ram bundles that suppliers have and go from there.

Driftwood
22-07-2012, 06:42 PM
Thats where the confusion comes in for me.
Taking the i5 for example, you will get it paired up with mobos with a veriety of chipsets, p67, z68, x77, z77, x79 & z79.

dugimodo
22-07-2012, 07:10 PM
Go Z77, it's the newer one and combines features of the older ones. Don't worry too much though they all work fine, I have a P67 board and it's not missing anything important.
Asus and Gigabyte are popular, look for a combo deal as pine-o-cleen suggested it'll save you money and solve compatibility questions.
On the CPU front, any desktop i5 will perform much the same to the point where you'd struggle to tell the difference. (Considering an i3 can handle almost all current gen games perfectly well)
Even overclocking my 2500K to 4.1 honestly doesn't make the computer feel any different because the whole family has power to spare.

My 2c - Get an Asus MB, i5 CPU(any), 4 or 8 GB of RAM, and a GTX560, and you'll be happy. It all adds up to a solid mid-range machine with CPU horsepower to spare.

ChazTheGeek
22-07-2012, 08:16 PM
+1

Driftwood
22-07-2012, 08:47 PM
My appologees to hsvman12 for stealing the thread.

icow
22-07-2012, 08:52 PM
Thanks for all the great advice. So, it seems worthwhile spending a bit more to get the 3570, but not the 'k' version. Any thoughts on whether its better to get the 7770 or GTX560?

Also, any thoughts on a motherboard - she won't be needing all the extras.

The 7770 is basically a 460GTX (performance wise), but replaces the 6770/5770 which were the true entry level gaming cards. The 560 GTX is a tad bit better (seeing as it replaced the 460)

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/536?vs=543