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pottsy99
01-07-2012, 02:06 PM
Hi , I have a heap of files on my ( now deceased ) computer that were done in Microsoft Publisher 97 -- cause it was there !

As noted , my computer has died , and I have just purchased a new one ; also , I have lost the original CD with MSPublisher97 on it . I have literally over 1000 files that are saved to back-up -- I was just going to get the latest MS suite with Office , Publisher , etc on it ( and almost certainly will ) , but I understand that it won't open these 'old' files ?

I don't think I have a program to turn these into PDF's or similar , and even if I did , as I can't open these older files , don't think I'd be able to do anything anyway . Any suggestions ? I've never seen MSPub97 for sale ( think it's illegal to resell these ? ) and scan't find my original CD .

Thanks

Yorick
01-07-2012, 03:54 PM
I don't use publisher or it's godawful file format, but I am constantly asked by schools about this issue. My recommendation is http://www.k2pdf.com/

I haven't used it myself but I've had good feedback.

OpenOffice (http://openoffice.org) and LibreOffice (http://libreoffice.org) have a powerful layout editor: Draw, that exports to PDF and will also edit PDFs and is a low learning curve simple DTP.
Or if you want a proper Desk Top Publishing Software I would recommend Scribus (http://www.scribus.net) for publishing, it's up there with InDesign, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't handle .pub files

There a commercial product PDF Convert (http://www.pdf-convert.com/pub2pdf/index.htm), don't know whether it works or not, they don't do a linux version. Obviously it costs.

Agent_24
01-07-2012, 05:50 PM
I was just going to get the latest MS suite with Office , Publisher , etc on it ( and almost certainly will ) , but I understand that it won't open these 'old' files ?

I've never seen MSPub97 for sale ( think it's illegal to resell these ? ) and scan't find my original CD .

I don't see why the new version of Office wouldn't be able to open the older files. If it can't, then MIcrosoft are pathetic.

The CDs can be resold, I just don't think anyone has any for sale any more. You'd probably find one eventually, but it probably wouldn't work on anything higher than Windows XP.

EDIT: You can always find on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-Publisher-97-w-Product-Key-Full-Version-/170868735351
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-Publisher-97-CD-Deluxe-PC-CD-ROM-Full-Retail-Version-for-Windows-95-NT-/390435897626
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-Publisher-97-PC-CD-ROM-for-Windows-95-NT-1996-/360468810571

johnd
01-07-2012, 09:43 PM
I don't see why the new version of Office wouldn't be able to open the older files. If it can't, then MIcrosoft are pathetic.

It can't! One of hte many reasons why I now use open source at home and whenever I can at work.

mzee
01-07-2012, 09:44 PM
I have PUB 2002 and my brother has 2010. We swap files without a problem. I don't know if PUB97 files would be opened in the latest version, probably will as I can also open the old Exel97 files in Exel2010. Maybe Microsoft will tell you :-)

mzee
01-07-2012, 09:57 PM
Got this from Microsoft Support.

"Publisher 2010 can open most files from 2000 on up. There was a security update some years ago that keep some legacy files from opening. If you have 2000 the older files can be opened and resaved. I have no problems opening 97 and 98 files with 2010."

johnd
01-07-2012, 10:00 PM
OK - I am basing my statement on taking a pile of home files from I think Publisher 98 to work to try and convert them - must have been about 2003 but none would open.

inphinity
01-07-2012, 10:07 PM
Just opened a Publisher 97 doc in Publisher 2007. Quite why you'd still need support for a 15-year-old app is beyond me, though :P I could suggest you get the trial of Publisher 2010 and test to see if it opens your files...

Agent_24
01-07-2012, 10:22 PM
Quite why you'd still need support for a 15-year-old app is beyond me

Because the OP has 1000+ Pub97 files that he perhaps doesn't want to lose access to?

Agent_24
01-07-2012, 10:23 PM
Double post

mikebartnz
01-07-2012, 10:46 PM
It is not there yet but Libre Office is working on an import for Publisher files. Not sure when that will happen though.

linw
01-07-2012, 11:35 PM
If you purchased a new comp is it running Win7? I doubt Pub 97 is compatible with Win 7.

If you are running XP I can help you but you still seriously need to consider getting out of your dependance on a very old left behind program.

I do see, however, what a pain it would be to convert 1000 files and checking them for correctness!

Agent_24
02-07-2012, 12:09 AM
For future-proofing a copy of Publisher 97 and Windows 98 running in a virtual machine of your choice would probably work well.

No need to convert the files and no need to try running the old software on Windows 7 and above, but you still have access to them if you need them.

SP8's
02-07-2012, 11:14 AM
I have Office 2010 ... if I go to save a file it will only go back as far as '98 in save options. Having said that, I've never tried to open a '97 or earlier file in 2010.

Probably the easiest way to find out is to send the file to someone with 2010 and see if they can open it OK.

mikebartnz
02-07-2012, 11:21 AM
Probably the easiest way to find out is to send the file to someone with 2010 and see if they can open it OK.
Good advice.

Nick G
02-07-2012, 12:01 PM
I have Office 2010 ... if I go to save a file it will only go back as far as '98 in save options. Having said that, I've never tried to open a '97 or earlier file in 2010.

Probably the easiest way to find out is to send the file to someone with 2010 and see if they can open it OK.
+1, very good idea.

pottsy99
02-07-2012, 12:20 PM
Thanks for all the advice to date -- most a bit beyond my expertise though sorry . My new computer runs XP , not Windows 7 , and the old one did too . As far as updating Pub97 , I had the original disc and originally ran the program on a Windows 98 machine , then bought a laptop ( XP ) approx 2003 and ran it on that and updated my desktop to a new machine around 2005 that ran XP , had hundreds of files so just kept using Pub 97 as I know it well , had lots of files etc , plus could swap them ( USB drive ) between computers . To me , it's a bit like an old vehicle -- I have one company vehicle that is 20 years old , still tidy , done 540,000kms , does 20-30,000kms a year , costs around $1000 a year maintanence . I bought a new vehicle 2 years ago for $46,000 , has done 60,000kms and worth around $20k , and also costs around $1000 a year in maintanence !

Nick G
02-07-2012, 12:40 PM
Thanks for all the advice to date -- most a bit beyond my expertise though sorry . My new computer runs XP , not Windows 7 , and the old one did too . As far as updating Pub97 , I had the original disc and originally ran the program on a Windows 98 machine , then bought a laptop ( XP ) approx 2003 and ran it on that and updated my desktop to a new machine around 2005 that ran XP , had hundreds of files so just kept using Pub 97 as I know it well , had lots of files etc , plus could swap them ( USB drive ) between computers . To me , it's a bit like an old vehicle -- I have one company vehicle that is 20 years old , still tidy , done 540,000kms , does 20-30,000kms a year , costs around $1000 a year maintanence . I bought a new vehicle 2 years ago for $46,000 , has done 60,000kms and worth around $20k , and also costs around $1000 a year in maintanence !

I'm using office 2010, do you want to email me a copy of one of the files and I'll see if it will open?

mikebartnz
02-07-2012, 12:47 PM
I'm using office 2010, do you want to email me a copy of one of the files and I'll see if it will open?
If I remember correctly Publisher actually wasn't part of the Office programs but was an addon.

Nick G
02-07-2012, 01:02 PM
Could this (http://www.pdfonline.com/convert-pdf/)do it? I can't remember if it will covert .pub files,but its worth a go.

wainuitech
02-07-2012, 01:04 PM
Give Office 2010 a go ( the trial), there may be no problems at all.

I just installed Publisher97 onto a workshop XP computer, and loaded up a default template/flyer, saved it and then opened it with no problems on Windows 7 with Publisher 2010 - see pics below.

3955 and opened in Office 2010 3956

Agent_24
02-07-2012, 01:18 PM
Give Office 2010 a go ( the trial), there may be no problems at all.

I just installed Publisher97 onto a workshop XP computer, and loaded up a default template/flyer, saved it and then opened it with no problems on Windows 7 with Publisher 2010 - see pics below.

3955 and opened in Office 2010 3956


It can't! One of hte many reasons why I now use open source at home and whenever I can at work.

Well, it looks like it can. As I would expect, Hardly difficult to support older files with newer software. I would have been quite surprised if it couldn't.

mikebartnz
02-07-2012, 01:56 PM
If I remember correctly Publisher actually wasn't part of the Office programs but was an addon.
I see it is part of the Professional version.

mzee
02-07-2012, 07:58 PM
If I remember correctly Publisher actually wasn't part of the Office programs but was an addon.
Some had Publisher & others had Front Page. Front Page has been discontinued, so Publisher is included.

Greven
02-07-2012, 08:33 PM
I think Microsoft are trying to kill off Publisher by making it more & more expensive, but there is still a huge demand for it, so they keep updating it.

What is Publisher used for these days? (apart from opening old publisher files)

R.M.
02-07-2012, 09:27 PM
I write the Club Newsletter with it. :)

Unless anyone can tell me of something better?

mikebartnz
02-07-2012, 09:49 PM
I write the Club Newsletter with it. :)

Unless anyone can tell me of something better?
I don't know if it is better but Scribus is free so it can't do any harm to try it.

Yorick
04-07-2012, 02:44 PM
I write the Club Newsletter with it. :)

Unless anyone can tell me of something better?

I don't know if it is better but Scribus is free so it can't do any harm to try it.

Scribus is great, I use it a lot when OODraw isn't enough. However it's at Adobe InDesign level and the learning curve is steep. Worth the effort though and there are heaps of good tutorials

R.M.
04-07-2012, 02:55 PM
Ok - I'll have a look at it. :)

R.M.
11-07-2012, 09:18 PM
Right - I've been working with Scribus for the last few days. A bit slow to begin with, but I'm getting faster. :)

I am doing most of what I do in Publisher - but a few things aren't very intuitive to begin with - but that's the way with new things, isn't it?