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JJJJJ
07-05-2012, 09:48 AM
I'm looking to upgrade or buy a computer.

I have a 980x cpu and 2 x 480 vid cards and a colusas ssd hdd. Running smoothly at 4.4.

What is reccomended ?

Jack

inphinity
07-05-2012, 09:58 AM
Are you wanting to upgrade just for the sake of upgrading, or are you having performance issues with something in particular?

dugimodo
07-05-2012, 11:41 AM
I reccomend more information and more complete specs.
Hard to imagine that actually needs upgrading though, if you want to go crazy chuck a 680 or two or a 690 in it.

Trev
07-05-2012, 01:04 PM
Something like I have should do you fine.
:)

pctek
07-05-2012, 02:06 PM
are you having performance issues with something in particular?

Don't be silly, this is JJJJJ we are talking about here.

I recommend a new GPU, the latest Nvidia is out soon, why not dual of those?

JJJJJ
07-05-2012, 04:33 PM
I'm just looking for more speed and more processing power. At present my cpu is often running at 100%. Loading times have increased to an unacceptable level.
People are telling me that Sandy Bridge is a better CPU, but I refuse to believe a cpu at under half the price I paid for the 980 can be better.
I'm getting two thirty inch monitors which wont help either.

dugimodo
07-05-2012, 05:38 PM
The size of the monitors doesn't matter, only the resolution. What are you doing that uses 100% CPU ? and I'm afraid sandy bridge is better no matter how much yours cost. It is after all 2 generations newer for a start.

You are not very forthcoming with information, which leaves us to guess what you need and why. If you want the best right now go for a 6 core sandybridge-e and be happy that it will cost enough to feel like an upgrade.
Are you sure your machine doesn't just need a clean-up and some SSD maintenance to make it feel faster again?

JJJJJ
07-05-2012, 06:09 PM
My machine is used almost exclusively to run MS Flight Simulator. I have about 50 gigs of addons that take a lot of power and as their numbers increase the available power decreases

Trev
07-05-2012, 06:48 PM
Jack runs FSX.
:)

stormdragon
07-05-2012, 07:01 PM
I know budget doesn't really worry you JJJJJ but one thing to keep in mind is replacing the CPU will mean a new motherboard and possibly cooling system as well.

Metla
07-05-2012, 07:46 PM
You want your cpu to be running at 100%....

This should always be the case when doing anything intensive, Just as the software should be using every ounce of ram it should also be using every single available cpu cycle in order to do the work.

Chilling_Silence
08-05-2012, 01:35 AM
Metlas right.

I'll echo the sentiments, upgrade your GPU, flag the rest for now. How much RAM in the box too?

Slankydudl
08-05-2012, 05:57 PM
Yeah you wan your cpu running at 100% but if your cpu is not all that great then that is not going to help. Also sandy bridge or ivy bridge is much better because it is newer. A product that was $200 3 years ago will probably not be as good as a product that is $100 and new.

Metla
08-05-2012, 06:17 PM
Yeah you wan your cpu running at 100% but if your cpu is not all that great then that is not going to help. Also sandy bridge or ivy bridge is much better because it is newer. A product that was $200 3 years ago will probably not be as good as a product that is $100 and new.

Right, Fire up google, Do a search for "informed comment".

Then click this and get informed.

http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=980x+cpu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs

Slankydudl
08-05-2012, 06:28 PM
I dont believe you really understood what I was saying. Never mentioned your cpu just stating the reasoning behind the argument that a good i7 ivy bridge will out perform. Also those cpus althoguh awesome are kinda slow and the 12 virtual cores are useless for games.

Metla
08-05-2012, 06:43 PM
I dont believe you really understood what I was saying. Never mentioned your cpu just stating the reasoning behind the argument that a good i7 ivy bridge will out perform. Also those cpus althoguh awesome are kinda slow and the 12 virtual cores are useless for games.

What?

Of course you never mentioned my CPU, You have no idea what I'm running, and its 100 percent irrelevant to this thread.

Now, The reason I mentioned "informed comment" and referred you to Google is because this thread is specifically about the upgrade path from an i7 980X cpu, The answer is that their isn't anything on the market to make the so called upgrade a viable option, The latest round of i7 cpu's is a big gust of warm fluff and the 980x is capable of holding its own.

icow
08-05-2012, 07:13 PM
980x is still to be considered very very powerful. I do believe the 3770k out does it though (not by much).

Slankydudl
08-05-2012, 09:41 PM
heck yeah. but considering general wear and tear it could be performing below the expected mark. But this would have no effect on gaming as you hardly even need a i5 2500k

plod
08-05-2012, 09:53 PM
heck yeah. but considering general wear and tear it could be performing below the expected mark. But this would have no effect on gaming as you hardly even need a i5 2500kI do believe the game jjjj plays is as much CPU intensive as it is gpu.

Chilling_Silence
08-05-2012, 11:11 PM
Yeah Flight Sim is pretty intense all around ... Probably one of the most punishing games in fact.

Also, CPU's dont "wear and tear". They either work at capacity, or they don't work at all. No ifs, no buts, it's all or nothing. The CPU will work or it won't ....

JJJJJ
09-05-2012, 09:43 AM
Yeah you wan your cpu running at 100% but if your cpu is not all that great then that is not going to help. Also sandy bridge or ivy bridge is much better because it is newer. A product that was $200 3 years ago will probably not be as good as a product that is $100 and new.

Yeah. And a CPU that cost $1600 six months ago and is still the most expensive on the market should still be better than a new one that costs $500.

DeSade
09-05-2012, 10:20 AM
Jack
Buy yourself 2x 690's and SLI them (thats 4 GPU's) which will give you blistering power.
Also get a new z77 motherboard and the brand new (may have to wait a month or two) Ivy Bridge CPU from Intel
Add some ram, say 32GB 4x 8GB chips and you are done :)

dugimodo
09-05-2012, 10:20 AM
http://www.pp.co.nz/products.php?pp_id=AA33559 is a little faster than the 980X, but honestly the difference is small and not worth nearly $1500 + the price of a motherboard etc. Price is not the best indicator of what's better, technology changes. In this case however it hasn't changed all that much since the 980X was released.

I don't know about your particular game, but in general games don't benefit from 6 cores so in that respect an i7 2700K or 3770K ends up performing better than a 980X for gaming rigs, in fact most review sites have been reccommending the i5 2500K as the best all round gaming option due to the lack of perfomance gains in gaming from an i7. The new ivy bridge chips may or may not be better depending on how far you overclock the sandy bridge ones as they seem to have more headroom so can match the newer processors by clocking higher.

Honestly from the specs you gave the only significant upgrades available are in Video hardware and if the game isn't installed on your SSD or doesn't fit then maybe a new SSD would improve the load times.

Iantech
09-05-2012, 10:28 AM
Yeah. And a CPU that cost $1600 six months ago and is still the most expensive on the market should still be better than a new one that costs $500.Sadly, the 1366 socket cpu's were old technology six months ago as it had already been out several years (your 980x was released Q1 2010). It not the most expensive on the market as its not on the market any more, you shouldnt be able to find a 1366 anywhere unless someone is selling old stock. The 3960X is the new equivalent which are way over priced and over rated as they only just pip the 3770k in most bench tests. One thing you havent mentioned is how much RAM you are running and what type/speed. FSX is a resource hungary game especially with a heap of add-ons.

Trev
09-05-2012, 10:41 AM
Just a side note. My i5 2500K system I have just bought is at least 50% faster in games than my old 3 1/2 yo Intel Core 2 Duo 6850 system which cost the same as my new system. My old GF 8800 GTS cost me about $560 3 1/2 years ago but my new GF 560 TI cost $200 less. Games that I had to run at med settings I can now run at max settings, eg Crysis 2.
:)