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Morgenmuffel
28-04-2012, 02:51 PM
Exactly that, I am looking to purchase a new machine soonish and am waiting for Ivy Bridge builds to become available in shops.

Any ideas on when that will actually be?

My cunning plan was to get an ivy bridge build (provided the price isn't too much more than sandy) and use the onboard graphics which is better and should meet my needs, and then when the machine starts to feel slow in a few years get a graphics card.

Speedy Gonzales
28-04-2012, 03:00 PM
Looks like the CPU's have been released (http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/gadgets/6801254/Intel-launches-Ivy-Bridge-CPUs). Some sites say it was released 23rd April. Last week. But, I dont know if this includes systems. There are some mobos at computerlounge tho

icow
28-04-2012, 03:23 PM
Computer lounge have some of the ivy bridge cpu's in stock (just not for sale). They are doing a midnight release: http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/forum/yaf_postst5397_Computer-Lounge-Midnight-Release-Of-Intel-IVY-Bridge-Processors---Sunday-29th-April-from-12am-to-2am.aspx

stratex5
28-04-2012, 03:36 PM
Just for future reference, if you want to know when a cpu is released by intel go to ark.intel.com

Morgenmuffel
28-04-2012, 06:49 PM
Computer lounge have some of the ivy bridge cpu's in stock (just not for sale). They are doing a midnight release: http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/forum/yaf_postst5397_Computer-Lounge-Midnight-Release-Of-Intel-IVY-Bridge-Processors---Sunday-29th-April-from-12am-to-2am.aspx
Seem to need a login for that link, but that was one of the places i had looked




Just for future reference, if you want to know when a cpu is released by intel go to ark.intel.com

Its not about when Intel releases them for me as thats been all over the net at the moment, its when they are actually available for purchase to the end user in New Zealand, as sometimes things here take a while longer.

icow
28-04-2012, 10:32 PM
Computerlounge starts selling them on the 29th of April at 12am.

Iantech
28-04-2012, 10:48 PM
My supplier is listing them- but showing none in stock, so will probably order as required, unless they are going to wait for the 29th release date also before showing them as instock.

Thing is, is it all really worth it, Intel have already tested a new processor they have been working on and plan to release it June 2013, it will be a different socket (1150), so will make the Ivy Bridge processors pretty short lived.

stratex5
28-04-2012, 10:49 PM
Buy one now. the difference between cpus is so slim you might as well buy one now.

Slankydudl
28-04-2012, 10:58 PM
yeah if it ever gets old but a decent cooler and oc it it out perform the next one

icow
28-04-2012, 11:46 PM
I'm going to say at the mid level the difference between sandy and ivy will be slim. High level not so much, ivy should beat the pants off the old sandy bridge cpu's. Imo 2011 socket will still stay king (sandy-e?). This "new" cpu in 2013 should be like what the sandy bridge did to the bulldozer. Problem is AMD has pulled out of the high end cpu market so Intel has no competitors and therefore no reason to spend big on R & D like they have been.

stratex5
28-04-2012, 11:48 PM
The real difference im pretty sure is the intergrated graphics which support DX11 but anyway most people would get a descret gpu.

Slankydudl
29-04-2012, 12:29 AM
Does using your cpu as a gpu at the same time make it really hot?

stratex5
29-04-2012, 12:35 AM
Does using your cpu as a gpu at the same time make it really hot?

?

Iantech
29-04-2012, 02:16 AM
The real difference im pretty sure is the intergrated graphics which support DX11 but anyway most people would get a descret gpu. I think you will find the "real" difference is the microarchitecture leading to about a 20% increase in performance and 20% less power. Additionally it has a higher max memory bandwidth (resulting in faster memory access) and support for PCI Express Revision 3.0.

Iantech
29-04-2012, 02:32 AM
To Add - and about the onboard graphics.


Intel has made enhancements to the GPU engine to improve efficiency, but other factors help to mitigate the clock-rate differential, too. First, the new HD 4000 GPU contains 16 execution units, versus the 12 built into Sandy Bridge. Second, Ivy Bridge supports DDR3-1600 memory, as opposed to the Sandy Bridge memory controller, which officially supports only DDR3-1333. Ivy Bridge gains 25 percent more parallel compute power and higher potential throughput due to the added memory bandwidth.

What we like here is that beyond all the wonkiness, the new chips have some big, obvious improvements for users. There are two levels of GPU, the HD 2500 and HD 4000. The latter will allow gamers to play graphics-intensive games like the new Metro 2033 and Just Cause 2 at playable framerates--definitely something that wasn't possible before with onboard graphics. Both the 2500 and 4000 support DirectX 11 From benchmarks I have seen, they still arent that wonderful.

Cato
29-04-2012, 04:13 AM
^^ And to add to Iantech...

Whenever you look at the benchmarks, also look at what CPU is being tested.
Expect that HD4000 on a 3770K will perform substantially better than say on a 3470. Perhaps exponentially so.

stratex5
29-04-2012, 09:11 AM
Computer lounge have some of the ivy bridge cpu's in stock (just not for sale). They are doing a midnight release: http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/forum/yaf_postst5397_Computer-Lounge-Midnight-Release-Of-Intel-IVY-Bridge-Processors---Sunday-29th-April-from-12am-to-2am.aspx

This is a bit late but the link icow gave was about a midnight release from 12am - 2am this morning at the computer lounge show room in Auckland.

Iantech
30-04-2012, 09:49 AM
Just ordered a 3770K woohoo!! :)

dugimodo
30-04-2012, 02:17 PM
Me too :) except I went for the 3570K, I just can't see any real gain for the extra cash with my usage.

gonna sell my media PC and my LAN machine and use this to replace both. Decided 3 PC's for just me is excessive.

icow
30-04-2012, 04:57 PM
This is a bit late but the link icow gave was about a midnight release from 12am - 2am this morning at the computer lounge show room in Auckland.

hence


Computerlounge starts selling them on the 29th of April at 12am.

gary67
30-04-2012, 05:02 PM
Me too :) Decided 3 PC's for just me is excessive.

I thought 3 was enough for me so gave my 4th to a friend in need