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Roscoe
10-02-2012, 11:34 AM
Where did the idea of Valentine Day come from? It's a crappy idea so it must have come from America. Where else would such a sentimental soppy idea originate?

Actually, the Americans did not think up the idea but they certainly turned it into the soppy day that it is today.

Why would you want to buy a helium filled balloon shaped like a heart to give to "your valentine." Or chocolates? Or flowers? Or a card (a Valentine) with a poorly written message? Do you only love and show "your valentine" that you love him/her one day a year? What about the other 364?

Apart from being sick and perverse, the only people that really benefit from St Valentine's Day are the retailers who sell all the Valentine "gifts."

The Christian bashers, at least, should have nothing to do with the day as it honours the early Christian martyr, St Valentine. Or will they be as hypocritical as they accuse the Christians to be, and participate anyway?

What a load of rubbish!:annoyed:

wratterus
10-02-2012, 11:37 AM
Wasn't Valentine a Saint back in the day, like 1500 years ago? Think it's originally something to do with Christian martyrs back in Roman times, rather than in America, but not sure on how it became a romantic tradition. These days it's just another commercial money-making thing, rather like Easter and Christmas have become. Pretty sure we will be able to blame the commercialization on the yanks though. :p

Edit - did you just add that last bit on your post, or am I going blind? :D

Metla
10-02-2012, 11:40 AM
Saint Valentine's Day, commonly shortened to Valentine's Day,[1][2][3] is a holiday observed on February 14 honoring one or more early Christian martyrs named Saint Valentine. It is traditionally a day on which lovers express their love for each other by presenting flowers, offering confectionery, and sending greeting cards (known as "valentines").[1][3] The day first became associated with romantic love in the circle of Geoffrey Chaucer in the High Middle Ages, when the tradition of courtly love flourished. It was first established by Pope Gelasius I in 496 AD, and was later deleted from the General Roman Calendar of saints in 1969 by Pope Paul VI.

Can't see anything American in that history.

That aside, I may buy something, No skin off my nose if its infested with commercialism or christian poison, Neither delusion factors into my day to day activities.

PinoyKiw
10-02-2012, 11:57 AM
Re: You're Not Really Going To Buy Anything For "Your Valentine" Are You?

+1 I never buy anything on Valentines Day, never have, hope to never do.:devil

pctek
10-02-2012, 12:02 PM
Why would you want to buy a helium filled balloon shaped like a heart to give to "your valentine." Or chocolates? Or flowers? Or a card (a Valentine) with a poorly written message?
The Christian bashers, at least, should have nothing to do with the day as it honours the early Christian martyr, St Valentine. Or will they be as hypocritical as they accuse the Christians to be, and participate anyway?



Balloon? No.
Chocs? Flowers? For those who like that stuff - yes.

WHat has Christians got to do with it. Most holidays started off as a pagan festival and then got hijacked and mutated into some Christian thing. Who cares about that?

No Valentines day people think of dead religious people.

pcuser42
10-02-2012, 12:04 PM
Got no one to buy for, not now :(

Gobe1
10-02-2012, 12:10 PM
Got no one to buy for, not now :(

Best way to be, go and get on the piss

The Error Guy
10-02-2012, 12:28 PM
The missus would be on a killing spree if I failed to buy something nice but only because she'd feel left out since all her mates would be asking what did he get ya?? Nothing :( :P . I treat it as a nice little day of which I can return the favors expended on me on my birthday (12th) rather than a commercial venture.

Roscoe
10-02-2012, 12:30 PM
WHat has Christians got to do with it. Most holidays started off as a pagan festival and then got hijacked and mutated into some Christian thing. Who cares about that?

No Valentines day people think of dead religious people.

Perhaps if you read all of my post you will have noticed that it was originally a holiday to honour the Christian martyr, St Valentine.


Can't see anything American in that history.

Not in the history of the day, but the Americans have made it the crappy, sentimental, commercial day that it is.

pcuser42
10-02-2012, 12:52 PM
Best way to be, go and get on the piss

That's not quite what I had in mind... I don't drink :p

Gobe1
10-02-2012, 12:55 PM
That's not quite what I had in mind... I don't drink :p

well its about time you started. Go get plastered, find some tail and regret it the next day. all good :D

Metla
10-02-2012, 12:57 PM
Well, Whatever the yanks are up to on their side of the world it has zero impact on my day, I don't look to them for inspiration, Looks to me though like they have just adopted a tradition and expanded on it to suit their needs, which in itself is a long established christian trait.

Surely even the yank version is better then the christian version? as pctek has truthfully stated " No Valentines day think of dead religious people" And the day is better off for it.

gary67
10-02-2012, 01:15 PM
Never bought anyone anything for Valentines yet and not about to start now, partly because I'm not christian and partly because I'm too tight. SWMBO reckons I squeak when I walk yet she is worse, she is much tighter than I am with money

prefect
10-02-2012, 01:22 PM
Best way to be, go and get on the piss
Blardy good advice squire!

pcuser42
10-02-2012, 01:34 PM
well its about time you started. Go get plastered, find some tail and regret it the next day. all good :D

The reason I don't drink is because I don't see the point in any of that :p

prefect
10-02-2012, 01:37 PM
The reason I don't drink is because I don't see the point in any of that :p
Well you will have to find a non drinking chick
Good luck in your search, doubt there are many around.

SP8's
10-02-2012, 02:01 PM
Well you will have to find a non drinking chick
Good luck in your search, doubt there are many around.

I've got one if you want ... always on my back about not being able to carry out the bottle recycling bin ... other than that, she pretty well trained after 30 years ... :lol:

Gobe1
10-02-2012, 02:46 PM
I've got one if you want ... always on my back about not being able to carry out the bottle recycling bin ... other than that, she pretty well trained after 30 years ... :lol:

:lol: watch out sp8s behind you!!!!

pcuser42
10-02-2012, 02:49 PM
Well you will have to find a non drinking chick
Good luck in your search, doubt there are many around.

I was turned down by one just days ago...

Gobe1
10-02-2012, 03:04 PM
I was turned down by one just days ago...

Thats why its easier to find ones that drink.

Metla
10-02-2012, 03:11 PM
I was turned down by one just days ago...

Should have got her drunk....

pcuser42
10-02-2012, 03:23 PM
Should have got her drunk....

You do not want to see a drunk Christian. :p

And besides her not drinking was part of the deal... :stare:

prefect
10-02-2012, 03:58 PM
I had a Christian chick flatmate years ago, went to church twice on a Sunday in morning and evening. Most moralistic goody goody two shoes you ever did meet. But when she had a sniff of a wine gum or wine biscuit she would turn it up.

pcuser42
10-02-2012, 04:16 PM
Most moralistic goody goody two shoes you ever did meet.

She didn't like being thought of as that :p

Paul.Cov
11-02-2012, 04:21 PM
Valentines day has some traumatic memories for me now.

Suddenly found myself caught on her emotional tightrope... not a happy place.

She was drop dead gorgeous. Intelligent. Sweet. And more volatile than old dynamite.

pctek
11-02-2012, 04:31 PM
Perhaps if you read all of my post you will have noticed that it was originally a holiday to honour the Christian martyr, St Valentine.



Not in the history of the day, but the Americans have made it the crappy, sentimental, commercial day that it is.

I did read it.
Like I said, most christian days were pinched from pagan days. And who cares NOW? Even Xmas for most people is an excuse for eating drinking presents and holidays.
Not many people care about whatever religious thing they used to be.

Crappy, commercial day? Depends how you look at it or treat it I guess.
Doing something nice for you loved one that day can eliminate the commercialness.

Perhaps you'd prefer we did whatever they did when it was about the martyr, celebrate burning some religious person at the stake maybe?

beetle
11-02-2012, 04:34 PM
Hmmmmmmmmm been a long time since valentines has impacted on this house hold....

so nothing happens here for valentines, but the next day its a really nice day......... :)

QW.
11-02-2012, 04:35 PM
Nope. Far too commercialized as I am concerned.

ooh yeh
11-02-2012, 04:48 PM
Valentine's day is a day to be exploited.

A guy walks into a post office one day to see a middle-aged, balding man standing at the counter methodically placing "Love" stamps on bright pink envelopes with hearts all over them. He then takes out a perfume bottle and starts spraying scent all over them.

His curiosity getting the better of him, he goes up to the balding man and asks him what he is doing. The man says, "I'm sending out one thousand Valentine cards signed, 'Guess who?'"

"But why?" asks the man.

"I'm a divorce lawyer," the man replies.

Arnie
11-02-2012, 11:01 PM
No way do I honor it I have been married 44 years and no "Valentines prese. It is a day women are supposed to propose to men, and any way I am happy except no Grandchildren.

sam m
12-02-2012, 06:04 AM
@Arnie - Feb 29th, not Feb 14th. The rest, not sure anyone here can help you with.

tuiruru
12-02-2012, 02:20 PM
It's a totally revenue gathering exercise for the card companies, flower shops, chocolate sellers see here (http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/what-is-true-origin-of-valentines-day.html)

But in the spirit of "get over it", try this: "My wife told me I was no longer romantic so I booked a table for the two of us on Valentine's Night. Problem was she's not interested in snooker."

Look out for a "geeky" post from me tomorrow re the date. (Can somebody pre-empt me on that?)

Enjoy the rest of you weekend (pissing with rain here!)

rob_on_guitar
12-02-2012, 02:23 PM
Any excuse to spoil my woman is good enough for me.

paulw
12-02-2012, 05:28 PM
Guess Roscoe you don't have a valentine this year??

R2x1
12-02-2012, 05:40 PM
If we're going to revive old festivals, then we could do worse than martyr a few religious extremists every now and then. Any religion will do, we don't need more discrimination.

prefect
12-02-2012, 05:58 PM
I was in my early twenties and a single piss drinking chick rooting hua and I got an beautiful anonymous card. Never knew who sent it I kept watching the chicks in the pub afterwards to see if they were looking at me and laughing as chicks do, but alas I never found out. Over 30 years and it still bugs me, possibly a root I missed out on.

gary67
12-02-2012, 06:43 PM
I know where there is a working ducking stool

Contented
12-02-2012, 06:43 PM
The present giving is more an investment. Gifts and cuddles and general romance in exchange for hopefully something a bit naughty and 'experimental' once it's bedtime. A cold-hearted man might be able to get his rewards without financial outlay using the weapon of 'guilt' or the heavy artillery - 'hollow promises' but it only works for one year so best just to cough up for something half decent before someone else does.
Getting ingredients for fancy cocktails can be a winner, the ladies like 'em, it's seasonal and you can dig out a Hawaiian shirt to show a bit of effort. Romance, fun, and a tipsy lady - it's a result!
Once Valentine's is over, you can discard all the little umbrellas and nonsense and you still have a bottle or two of splendid spirits to both congratulate and reward yourself with on a job well done. The expensive liqueurs and suchlike will keep till next year so no worries there for the thrifty, or for those that may have to try their luck with someone else.
Bon Chance!

Metla
12-02-2012, 07:47 PM
I'm going to give her the jiggy that makes her scream.

plod
12-02-2012, 07:53 PM
I'm going to give her the jiggy that makes her scream.
By calling out someone else's name?

Metla
12-02-2012, 08:39 PM
By calling out someone else's name?

Plan A was to hold her down and tickle her.

plod
12-02-2012, 08:51 PM
Plan A was to hold her down and tickle her.Now you have a plan b

prefect
12-02-2012, 08:58 PM
Plan A the rodeo ride. :thumbs:

R2x1
12-02-2012, 09:32 PM
Regarding the topic, I'm blowed if I'll buy anything for somebody else's Valentine.

Roscoe
13-02-2012, 08:56 AM
Guess Roscoe you don't have a valentine this year??

You guess correctly. I love and honour my SWMBO every day of the year. Neither of us see any reason to have a day to remember what we do every day. I place much more importance on her birthday which is her day and is not commercialised.

Contented
13-02-2012, 11:38 AM
By calling out someone else's name?

For an unpredictable experience, try calling out 'Dave'

Contented
13-02-2012, 11:41 AM
You guess correctly. I love and honour my SWMBO every day of the year. Neither of us see any reason to have a day to remember what we do every day. I place much more importance on her birthday which is her day and is not commercialised.

Feel free to post again when she's not in the room watching you type :P