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skeptile2
18-11-2011, 11:12 AM
I have a bad computer, (see signature) and I want to max out my GPU. I cant upgrade, so please don't tell me "just get a new computer", as i cant. I would like some suggestions on some GPU overclocking software, or perhaps some BIOS menu that could help. I'm relatively new to overclocking, but i have done a small amount on my current CPU.
thanks, Skeptile

icow
18-11-2011, 12:47 PM
ATiTool: http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/

Agent_24
18-11-2011, 12:57 PM
I wouldn't bother, I doubt you will get much of a performance increase out of it to be of much use. You certainly won't magically be able to run Crysis just because you increased performance by 5% or something.

But if you do try, you should probably get a better cooler for it to make sure it lasts longer.

pctek
18-11-2011, 01:45 PM
I have a bad computer,

It's not bad - well depends how often it misbehaves - just old.
Its the best method for your GPU.

You could look at second parts...?GPForums have some now and then, better pricing usually than TRademe.

icow
18-11-2011, 02:02 PM
Yeah if the only reason you can't upgrade is you're strapped for cash you should try TM. You can pickup a 9600XT for $30: http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/components/video-cards/agp/auction-423372687.htm That should be a considerable performance boost over your 9600. Yeah you could stick a WTB on GPForums.

1101
18-11-2011, 03:10 PM
huh, replace a 9600 with a 9600 ??

How about a 9800 ??
http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/components/video-cards/agp/auction-423651254.htm

icow
18-11-2011, 11:32 PM
9600 =/= 9600XT.

Agent_24
19-11-2011, 10:42 AM
A 9800 would be even better

A 6600GT or higher better still.

But as we went over in the previous thread, the price will probably be stupidly high.

skeptile2
20-11-2011, 05:26 PM
yep. thats what i thought. just so I dont have to start another thread, looking at my computer, (signature) can you think of any other ways that i could inprove it?

CaptainVincent
20-11-2011, 05:30 PM
A Radeon 9600, so cute.

icow
20-11-2011, 05:50 PM
yep. thats what i thought. just so I dont have to start another thread, looking at my computer, (signature) can you think of any other ways that i could inprove it?
You're wanting to play modern games right?
ON a budget maybe on of these: http://www.playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139234/CATID=648/Upgrade-Bundles.html and a decent graphics card around the $200-250 mark.

What's your psu like? If it's bad you could go for a non-powered card like the 9800GT (which is non-powered iirc).

mrlooneyman
21-11-2011, 02:42 PM
So from what you have said I going to say that you dont want to spend any money at all on this PC?
What are you trying to get it to run?

You definiatly wont get much of a perfomance boost out of overclocking the stuff you have.
Just do a search for info on google
http://www.devhardware.com/forums/video-card-overclocking-26/ati-radeon-9600-overclock-90394.html
http://www.forumapex.com/video_card_oc/51828-ati_radeon_9600_overclocking.html

I think another major problem is that your overclocking old hardware, I mean its close to the end of its life and overclocking is going to put more presure on the chip to fail.
If you dont have money to upgrade you most likely then can replace a part if it fails.

Another option mabye slim down your operation system to get the most out of it. Get rid of all the junk from it.

I hope some of this helped.

skeptile2
21-11-2011, 07:33 PM
So from what you have said I going to say that you dont want to spend any money at all on this PC?
What are you trying to get it to run?

nothing in particular. The computer is my dads old one, before I came along it was last upgraded in... 2003? i think. it was A LOT worse then. I've probably spent about $150 on it. (new cpu, triple ram, new PSU, new/old HDD)my dad won't let me upgrade the motherboard, but everything else I can do whatever I want, so I just wondered if I could get anything else out of it.


I think another major problem is that your overclocking old hardware, I mean its close to the end of its life and overclocking is going to put more presure on the chip to fail.
If you dont have money to upgrade you most likely then can replace a part if it fails.

Another option mabye slim down your operation system to get the most out of it. Get rid of all the junk from it.

I hope some of this helped.

it's already on XP, cos of that exact reason. thanks for the links, shall be helpful depending on what I decide to do. I have cleaned out the computer so many times, do frequent defrags, I just want to see just how good I can get it to go. Thanks everyone, help is appreciated.

skeptile2
21-11-2011, 07:38 PM
You're wanting to play modern games right?
ON a budget maybe on of these: http://www.playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139234/CATID=648/Upgrade-Bundles.html and a decent graphics card around the $200-250 mark.

What's your psu like? If it's bad you could go for a non-powered card like the 9800GT (which is non-powered iirc).

And I dont mean to be rude, but will people please READ my posts??? I CAN'T UPGRADE!!! end of story. If an upgrade involves a new Motherboard, then NO. anything else, perhaps. but NO new motherboards. BTW, I have a ... 350W PSU? and would that card really make much of a difference?

icow
21-11-2011, 08:11 PM
are you agp or pci-e?

Agent_24
21-11-2011, 08:23 PM
Re: overclocking AGP Radeon 9600 GPU

are you agp or pci-e?

:lol: and I thought I couldn't read!

icow
22-11-2011, 05:07 AM
:lol:

Anyway I think we've found your problem. Your not going anywhere fast (gfx wise) until you get onto pci-e which = new mobo. Which of course you can't do. Is there a particular reason why you "can't" upgrade?

Agent_24
22-11-2011, 07:43 AM
I think he would get a noticeable performance boost with one of the last made AGP cards, but it may be overpriced for the performance.

Overall performance would then probably be limited by the CPU and the lack of RAM.

AND a new PSU might be needed to power the thing.

icow
22-11-2011, 10:43 AM
Like these?:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/components/video-cards/pciexpress/auction-424923529.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/components/video-cards/pciexpress/auction-425034554.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/components/video-cards/agp/auction-423992356.htm

Agent_24
22-11-2011, 11:03 AM
Ok, maybe the price isn't so bad.

mrlooneyman
22-11-2011, 11:40 AM
Only one of those cards are AGP but the 6600GT is a really nice card

If you can go further i have this card in 256mb and PCI express but its a really good card and ive had no problems gaming of it on my spare machine that very similar to yours
Athlon X2 4000+ with 1.5Gb DDR2
http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/components/video-cards/agp/auction-424135035.htm

skeptile2
22-11-2011, 08:22 PM
that card looks good, but once again, it costs too much for a 15 year old trying to max out his first computer.I just dont have that much money. well, I do, but I'm not prepared to pay that much for it, as it wouldn't improve that much over my current one.

Snorkbox
22-11-2011, 09:51 PM
So keep procrastinating then.


http://pressf1.pcworld.co.nz/showthread.php?121556-Best-AGP-Graphics-Card&p=1058316#post1058316

Sheesh.

jareemon
22-11-2011, 11:30 PM
A Radeon 9600, so cute.
This coming from someone with an 8800GTS? :lol:

icow
23-11-2011, 11:22 AM
Only one of those cards are AGP but the 6600GT is a really nice card

If you can go further i have this card in 256mb and PCI express but its a really good card and ive had no problems gaming of it on my spare machine that very similar to yours
Athlon X2 4000+ with 1.5Gb DDR2
http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/components/video-cards/agp/auction-424135035.htm

Any of the 6600 GT's i listed would beat the crap out of that.


that card looks good, but once again, it costs too much for a 15 year old trying to max out his first computer.I just dont have that much money. well, I do, but I'm not prepared to pay that much for it, as it wouldn't improve that much over my current one. They were going for like $40...

When I was 14 I worked all through all of the holidays I had (I even missed a family vacation) and used all of the Christmas money and birthday money I had saved for ever to buy a decent computer. Problem: No money. Solution: Get a job.

skeptile2
26-11-2011, 02:37 PM
I'm not allowed to upgrade becuase dad says so. apparently I spend too much time on the computer as it is, so much so that he changed my password so that only he can log me in. also, I would like a (better) job, but the only thing I can get is a paper run which pays pretty rubbishly (thats what I have now). also, I was reffering to The $120 one, not your suggestions.

PPp
26-11-2011, 08:11 PM
Lets face it your options are virtually nil, The only way to increase your options in the short term are get a better paying job. In the long term get a better education(don't spend too much time on computers) and the options are awesome.
From an oldie who spends too much time on computers!

Agent_24
26-11-2011, 08:16 PM
Lets face it your options are virtually nil, The only way to increase your options in the short term are get a better paying job. In the long term get a better education(don't spend too much time on computers) and the options are awesome.
From an oldie who spends too much time on computers!

Pretty much.

The only significant increase in speed you will get is if you buy the fastest AGP card possible, and that will clearly be more than you can afford right now, if you get extra cash maybe you can afford it, but it will still be a waste of money overall.


Perhaps a better strategy would be to forget about playing the latest games now, and invest in some older games (there are lots, and a lot of them are very good, and 2nd hand they will be cheap too) and start saving towards a big upgrade for later when you're actually allowed to do so.

jareemon
27-11-2011, 11:17 AM
In the long term get a better education(don't spend too much time on computers) and the options are awesome. He's in a great school and will go to uni afterwards, unlike his big bro, so soon enough he'll have a real nice rig I'm sure.But anyways Will, dad's got a good point, computers can suck up a lot of your time and if you limit how much time you spend on the computer now, you'll be less likely to end up as a fat blob gamer in the future :P

icow
27-11-2011, 01:37 PM
unlike his big bro, so soon enough he'll have a real nice rig I'm sure.

Hey your comp is pretty good. You're doing better than :p WOOOOOO INTERGRATED GFX!

jareemon
27-11-2011, 02:06 PM
Yea but look at my wishlist, that's over $1000 worth of parts that I can't afford :(