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Driftwood
28-10-2011, 06:21 PM
Comparing Seagate ST3500320AS with ST3500413AS
I have looked at the specs for both & see the differences.
Not sure how they would compare in use.

icow
28-10-2011, 07:11 PM
If you're looking at buying an HDD now isn't really the time to be doing so.

Driftwood
28-10-2011, 07:30 PM
Interesting reply.
Why would that be?

pcuser42
28-10-2011, 07:33 PM
Interesting reply.
Why would that be?

http://pressf1.pcworld.co.nz/showthread.php?121439-Worldwide-hard-drive-shortage

Driftwood
28-10-2011, 08:12 PM
Fair enough, but it dosent answer my original question.
Lets put it another way.
If I am puting a system together & have a choice of those 2 drives to to install the os on, which would be better for office work & light gaming?

icow
28-10-2011, 08:41 PM
I'm guessing the ST3500413AS is the newer drive. It supports 6gb/s SATA (the other one supports 3) so it should be faster (if your motherboard can handle it). Whereas the other drive (assuming your getting the 500gb version) has double the cache of the ST3500413AS.

Driftwood
28-10-2011, 10:12 PM
Yep thats what I came up with.
So is faster better than having a larger cache?

Agent_24
30-10-2011, 10:05 AM
Probably, although I think one could argue if the drive can even sustain speeds necessary to warrant the use of a 6Gbps link.

autechre
31-10-2011, 09:07 AM
Generally, if they're about the same price, get the one with the bigger cache.

Now's a great time to buy hard drives - get in before the prices go up :D

pcuser42
31-10-2011, 10:29 AM
get in before the prices go up :D

Too late for that...

autechre
01-11-2011, 08:42 AM
Too late for that...
Yep, oops. I bought one a couple weeks back, must have just got in before the hike.

Greven
01-11-2011, 07:37 PM
DSE doesn't seem to have heard about the hard drive shortage. I picked up a 2TB external drive for $130

autechre
02-11-2011, 08:43 AM
DSE doesn't seem to have heard about the hard drive shortage. I picked up a 2TB external drive for $130
Externals are still cheap (at the mo'), hence why people are pulling them apart to see if they can install them internally.

The price has shot through the roof for the internal ones.

Renegade
03-11-2011, 10:07 AM
Dang, I need one to replace a bricked Seagate. Look at those prices. :eek:
Supplier has absolutely none in stock.

3343

Agent_24
03-11-2011, 01:06 PM
Dang, I need one to replace a bricked Seagate.

Is it bricked from the Seagate firmware bug? Because those are recoverable most of the time.

Renegade
03-11-2011, 04:53 PM
Yep, that's the one! Tried the firmware update on the unrecognised drive but no go. Looks like the other option is hack into it with some cables and hyperterminal?

Agent_24
03-11-2011, 04:59 PM
Yep, that's the one! Tried the firmware update on the unrecognised drive but no go. Looks like the other option is hack into it with some cables and hyperterminal?

Yeah you can't upgrade the firmware once it's bricked itself until you recover it using an RS232-TTL level shifter and Hyper-terminal.
Many people have done it, and I have too, on a drive for a friend. That was a while ago, and as far as I know the drive is still going fine.

Even if you need to buy the hardware, it's much cheaper than a new drive, and not very difficult to do.

Renegade
04-11-2011, 08:54 AM
Should I just buy this kit instead of trying to piece all the parts together?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FT232BM-BL-Seagate-Barracuda-7200-11-Firmware-Fix-tool-complete-USB-powered-/280748167812?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415de51284

Agent_24
04-11-2011, 10:22 AM
Looks good, albeit a bit expensive. A straight serial based (not USB) level shifter would cost less, but if you have no serial ports, then this one would be good for you - And of course you can keep it for use with all sorts of things.

Although mine was very cheap, since I built it myself.


By the way, their tutorial doesn't show it but most people say you need to isolate the HDD board from the motor contacts with a piece of card. You may or may not need to do this.

There is a good website somewhere which has a better set of instructions, I'll find it for you.

Zippity
04-11-2011, 10:36 AM
Are more platters better than less??

Agent_24
04-11-2011, 11:59 AM
Are more platters better than less??

More platters mean less areal density per platter, making the read\write head's job easier (and maybe making the whole thing more reliable)

But more platters also mean more weight, more size, higher cost, more power consumption, heat and noise.

Also you end up with more heads, which increases chances of failure (more things to fail).


What actual amount of difference in all these areas between drives with more or less platters is though, I have no idea.