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mookster1
15-10-2011, 04:48 PM
Hey all,

A while since I've been on here (by the way kudos to the site designers... this looks great! :thumbs:) but I have an issue. I think that my power supply may be stressing out under load and consequently shutting down during inopportune occasions. It's a 400W SuperPower power supply (not too sure if this is a brand to steer clear of) and when I do any rendering in Blender, it konks out halfway through (the symptoms are exactly the same as pressing and holding the power supply button; kerCHun... as the fans shut down, and the monitor turns off along with the Power light on the front.) I have recently installed a graphics card (works really well... it's a Gigabyte GeForce 8500GT which I got at a garage sale for the princely sum of $65, and it beats integrated graphics hands-down!) but the same issues were occurring beforehand. This only really occurs during times of high load (before I posted this I was about to buzz someone in a little Cessna with my Mustang on Flight Simulator X and the power supply died) and as I say only happened before when I was rendering a fairly complex scene in Blender. The machine has 2GB of DDR2 RAM, a 2.8GHz AMD Athlon 64 X2 processor and a Gigabyte GA-something-a-rather motherboard (I'll have to take the cover off to have a look, I had a bit of paper with it on but I cannot find it.) I don't really want to go out and buy another power supply if I don't have to, hence why I am asking.

Thanks! :)

jareemon
15-10-2011, 05:55 PM
and the monitor turns off along with the Power light on the front
Is the monitor power cable plugged into the PSU?

linw
16-10-2011, 09:13 AM
It would be useful to check your temperatures as well. Here's a good article to read http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/take-your-pcs-temperature-for-free/#story1

Report back your temps.

mookster1
16-10-2011, 12:07 PM
Yup, will do. BTW the monitor power cable is plugged directly into the power board (i.e. not thru the power supply unit) and as I undusted everything not too long ago dust doesn't seem to be the problem. Thanks for your help, and I'll get back on here when I run the test.

mookster1
16-10-2011, 12:09 PM
Oh yeah, what I meant to say about the monitor turning off is that it goes into standby as if the computer is shut down... sorry about not being too clear about that! As for the Power light on the front of the computer that goes out, so it's definitely shutting down for some reason.

pctek
16-10-2011, 12:10 PM
Hey all,
400W SuperPower power supply
2GB of DDR2 RAM, a 2.8GHz AMD Athlon 64 X2 processor

Rather underpowered for rendering.

More RAM< More CPU.

As for the PSU, ick, most brand are to be avoided, some good brands are:
Corasir
Enermax
Antec


And dust - did you get it all out of the fins in the CPU heatsink? Did you get it out of the inside of the PSU?

Most people don't even look at those places.

Agent_24
16-10-2011, 12:19 PM
Could be CPU temperature but "SuperPower" doesn't sound like any PSU I've ever heard of that was any good, so it's not a bad choice to point the finger at it.

mookster1
16-10-2011, 12:25 PM
Hello again

Yes I did clean out the fins on the CPU heatsink, and I looked in the power supply (I didn't open it of course) and it didn't appear to have much dust and stuff in it. SuperPower does sound like a fly-by-night, gone-by-morning brand (pcworld certainly haven't touched their stuff AFAIK) so that's the first thing that came to my mind.

Agent_24
16-10-2011, 12:38 PM
Borrow a better one if you can, if that solves your problem, buy something decent, a Corsair if you need something cheap.

mookster1
16-10-2011, 01:30 PM
That's what I was thinking of doing and I have access to a bigger, better 600W power supply, but unfortunately it's not sufficiently new enough to have an ATX12V plug to give 12 volts to the processor, which sucks (it was out of a defunct server that got replaced in 2005). I'll run those temperature checks and see if that tells me anything.

Agent_24
16-10-2011, 01:36 PM
If you know what you're doing, you could remove that cable from the old PSU and use it on the other one, if you're lucky there will even be some space free on the board to solder the new cable in easily.

mookster1
16-10-2011, 02:36 PM
That thought did cross my mind, and while arguably I may just know what I am doing (I have a bit of electronics background but NOT switchmodes and mains stuff), I'm really not game to open up a PSU and even if I was game, the impossible always happens to me so I would probably make my motherboard into magic toast (or set the house on fire...) Think it may just be better to get a shiny new PSU, if that's what the issue is.

mookster1
16-10-2011, 03:36 PM
Okay, I ran Flight Simulator X for a while, taking a log with that software that was in the link, and here it is: (sorry, it was going to be an attachment but the site didn't like it so it's a bit long):

Seconds,GPU,GPU,Temp1,Temp2,Temp3,HD1,HD0,Core
54123,0,54,34,35,32,27,30,16
54126,0,54,34,35,31,27,30,13
54129,0,54,34,35,31,27,30,21
54133,0,54,34,35,40,27,30,21
54136,0,54,34,36,33,27,30,15
54139,0,54,34,36,32,27,30,18
54142,0,54,34,36,38,27,30,19
54145,0,54,34,36,38,27,30,22
54148,0,54,34,36,35,27,30,23
54151,0,54,34,36,44,27,30,26
54154,0,54,34,37,32,27,30,14
54157,0,54,34,36,32,27,30,13
54160,0,54,34,36,44,27,30,29
54163,0,54,34,37,46,27,30,30
54166,0,54,34,38,46,27,30,31
54169,0,54,34,39,48,27,30,32
54172,0,54,34,40,47,27,30,32
54175,0,54,35,40,48,27,30,31
54178,0,54,35,41,48,27,30,32
54181,0,54,35,41,47,27,30,33
54185,0,54,35,41,49,27,30,34
54188,0,54,35,42,48,28,31,33
54191,0,54,35,42,50,28,31,34
54194,0,54,35,42,51,28,31,35
54197,0,54,35,43,50,28,31,34
54200,0,54,35,43,51,28,31,36
54203,0,54,35,43,53,28,31,36
54206,0,54,36,44,55,28,31,36
54209,0,54,36,44,54,28,31,38
54212,0,54,36,44,56,28,31,39
54215,0,54,36,45,57,28,31,40
54218,0,54,36,45,57,28,31,40
54221,0,54,36,46,57,28,31,40
54224,0,54,36,46,58,28,31,41
54227,0,54,36,46,59,28,31,39
54230,0,54,37,47,58,28,31,38
54234,0,54,37,47,56,28,31,39
54237,0,54,37,47,57,28,31,39
54240,0,54,37,47,56,28,31,41
54243,0,54,37,47,61,28,31,43
54246,0,54,37,48,61,28,31,43
54249,0,56,37,48,59,28,31,42
54252,0,57,37,48,63,29,31,42
54255,0,57,37,48,62,29,31,41
54258,0,60,37,48,61,29,31,38
54261,0,63,38,48,62,29,31,43
54264,0,65,38,49,63,29,31,43
54267,0,65,38,49,63,29,31,40
54270,0,63,38,49,62,29,31,35
54273,0,65,38,49,60,29,31,37
54276,0,65,38,49,59,29,31,37
54279,0,65,38,49,57,29,31,36
54282,0,66,38,48,60,29,31,42
54285,0,66,38,49,51,29,31,37
54289,0,67,38,48,61,29,31,38
54292,0,67,38,48,62,29,31,38
54295,0,68,38,49,63,29,31,38
54298,0,68,38,49,62,29,31,38
54301,0,68,39,49,62,29,31,38
54304,0,68,39,49,62,29,31,38
54307,0,68,39,49,62,29,31,39
54310,0,68,39,49,65,29,31,45
54313,0,68,39,49,66,29,31,46
54316,0,68,39,50,67,29,31,46
54319,0,68,39,51,67,29,31,46
54322,0,67,39,51,67,29,31,47
54325,0,68,39,51,67,29,31,49
54328,0,68,39,52,68,29,31,48
54331,0,68,39,52,69,29,31,50
54334,0,68,39,52,70,29,31,50
54337,0,68,40,52,70,29,31,49
54341,0,68,40,53,70,29,31,50
54344,0,67,40,53,70,29,31,49
54347,0,68,40,54,71,29,31,50
54350,0,68,40,54,71,29,31,46
54353,0,68,40,54,68,29,31,49
54356,0,69,40,54,71,29,31,50
54359,0,68,40,54,71,29,31,49
54362,0,68,40,54,72,29,31,51
54365,0,68,40,54,72,29,31,50
54368,0,68,40,54,72,29,31,50
54371,0,68,40,54,73,29,31,51
54374,0,68,41,55,73,29,31,52
54377,0,67,41,55,74,29,31,52
54380,0,67,41,55,74,30,32,52
54383,0,67,41,55,74,30,32,54
54386,0,68,41,55,74,30,32,53
54389,0,68,41,55,75,30,32,53
54392,0,68,41,56,75,30,32,54
54396,0,68,41,56,75,30,32,54
54399,0,68,41,56,76,30,32,55
54402,0,68,41,57,76,30,32,55
54405,0,68,41,57,77,30,32,55
54408,0,68,41,57,77,30,32,54
54411,0,68,42,57,77,30,32,55
54414,0,68,42,57,77,30,32,55
54417,0,68,42,57,77,30,32,55
54420,0,69,42,57,78,30,32,56
54423,0,69,42,57,78,30,32,55
54426,0,69,42,58,78,30,32,54
54429,0,70,42,58,77,30,32,56
54432,0,70,42,58,78,30,32,56
54435,0,70,42,58,78,30,32,56
54438,0,69,42,58,79,30,32,56
54441,0,70,42,58,79,30,32,57
54445,0,71,42,58,79,30,32,57
54448,0,71,42,59,79,30,32,56
54451,0,70,42,59,79,30,32,58
54454,0,69,42,59,80,30,32,58
54457,0,69,42,59,80,30,32,57
54460,0,69,43,59,79,30,32,58
54463,0,69,43,59,80,30,32,58
54466,0,69,43,59,81,30,32,59
54469,0,69,43,59,81,30,32,59
54472,0,69,43,59,80,30,32,59
54475,0,71,43,60,82,30,32,60
54478,0,71,43,60,81,30,32,60
54481,0,71,43,60,81,30,32,59
54484,0,71,43,60,80,30,32,57
54487,0,70,43,60,81,30,32,58
54490,0,71,43,60,80,30,32,59
54493,0,71,43,60,81,30,32,56
54496,0,71,43,60,82,30,32,56
54500,0,71,43,60,81,30,32,59
54503,0,71,43,60,82,30,32,60
54506,0,71,43,60,83,30,32,61
54509,0,70,43,61,83,30,33,61
54512,0,71,44,61,83,30,33,60
54515,0,70,44,61,83,30,33,60
54518,0,70,44,61,83,30,33,61
54521,0,71,44,61,83,30,33,61
54524,0,70,44,61,84,30,33,61
54527,0,70,44,61,84,30,33,62
54530,0,71,44,61,85,30,33,63
54533,0,70,44,61,85,30,33,63
54536,0,70,44,62,85,30,33,63
54539,0,70,44,62,85,30,33,63
54542,0,70,44,62,85,30,33,61
54545,0,69,44,62,82,30,33,62
54548,0,71,44,62,83,30,33,58
54551,0,71,44,62,83,30,33,58
54555,0,71,44,62,82,30,33,60
54558,0,72,44,61,83,30,33,55
54561,0,71,44,61,77,30,33,51
54564,0,74,44,61,81,30,33,53
54567,0,75,44,61,80,30,33,53
54570,0,75,44,61,75,30,33,48
54573,0,74,44,60,79,31,33,53
54576,0,74,44,60,78,31,33,51
54579,0,72,44,60,83,31,33,60
54582,0,68,44,60,80,31,33,59
54585,0,66,44,60,74,31,33,38
54588,0,66,44,59,73,31,33,54
54591,0,66,44,59,56,31,33,50
54594,0,65,44,59,81,31,33,60
54597,0,65,44,59,82,31,33,61
54600,0,65,44,59,83,31,33,61
54603,0,65,44,60,83,31,33,62
54607,0,65,44,61,84,31,33,63
54610,0,65,45,61,83,31,33,64
54613,0,65,45,61,84,31,33,63
54616,0,65,45,61,84,31,33,54
54619,0,65,45,61,66,31,33,44
54622,0,65,45,60,52,31,33,33
54625,0,65,45,59,75,31,33,57
54628,0,65,45,58,79,31,33,59
54631,0,65,45,59,78,31,33,56
54634,0,68,45,59,82,31,33,57
54637,0,68,45,59,81,31,34,53
54640,0,68,45,59,79,31,34,54
54643,0,73,45,59,77,31,34,51
54646,0,74,45,59,81,31,34,54
54649,0,74,45,60,80,31,34,53
54652,0,74,45,60,78,31,34,51
54655,0,75,45,59,77,31,34,51
54659,0,75,45,59,77,31,34,50
54662,0,75,45,59,77,31,34,51
54665,0,75,45,59,77,31,34,50
54668,0,75,45,59,77,31,34,50
54671,0,76,45,59,77,31,34,51
54674,0,76,45,59,77,31,34,51
54677,0,76,45,59,77,31,34,51
54680,0,76,45,59,76,31,34,50
54683,0,76,45,58,75,31,34,51
54686,0,76,45,58,76,31,34,50
54689,0,76,45,58,77,31,34,51
54692,0,76,45,58,79,31,34,58
54695,0,77,45,59,81,31,34,60
54698,0,77,45,59,82,31,34,60
54701,0,77,45,59,83,32,34,61
54704,0,77,45,60,83,32,34,60
54707,0,77,45,61,84,32,34,61
54711,0,77,45,61,84,32,34,61
54714,0,77,45,61,85,32,34,63
54717,0,77,45,61,85,32,34,63
54720,0,77,45,62,85,32,34,63
54723,0,78,45,62,86,32,34,63
54726,0,78,45,62,86,32,34,63
54729,0,76,45,62,86,32,34,64
54732,0,78,45,63,82,32,34,55
54735,0,78,45,62,84,32,34,57
54738,0,78,45,62,82,32,34,60
54741,0,78,45,62,82,32,34,56
54744,0,78,45,61,84,32,34,61
54747,0,78,45,62,84,32,34,62
54750,0,78,45,62,81,32,34,62
54753,0,78,45,62,83,32,34,62
54756,0,78,45,62,85,32,34,63
54759,0,78,45,62,86,32,34,63
54763,0,78,45,62,87,32,34,63
54766,0,78,45,63,87,32,34,65
54769,0,76,45,63,87,32,34,65
54772,0,76,46,63,88,32,34,65
54775,0,75,46,64,88,32,34,65
54778,0,77,46,64,89,32,34,67
54781,0,76,46,64,89,32,34,67
54784,0,77,46,64,89,32,34,67
54787,0,77,46,64,90,32,34,67
54790,0,77,46,64,90,32,34,67
54793,0,77,46,64,90,32,34,67
54796,0,77,46,65,91,32,34,68
54799,0,78,46,65,90,32,34,66
54802,0,78,46,65,89,32,34,65
54805,0,77,46,65,88,32,34,65
54808,0,76,46,65,88,32,34,67
54811,0,76,46,65,89,32,34,65
54814,0,75,46,65,89,32,34,66
54818,0,76,46,65,91,32,34,67
54821,0,76,46,65,91,32,34,67
54824,0,76,46,65,91,32,34,68
54827,0,76,46,65,91,32,34,68
54830,0,75,46,66,92,33,35,68
54833,0,77,46,66,92,33,35,69
54836,0,76,46,66,92,33,35,69
54839,0,76,46,66,92,33,35,70
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54848,0,76,47,67,93,33,35,69
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54854,0,77,47,67,94,33,35,70
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54885,0,78,47,67,94,33,35,69
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54897,0,77,47,68,95,33,35,69
54900,0,77,47,68,95,33,35,71
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54906,0,77,47,68,96,33,35,72
54909,0,78,47,68,96,33,35,72
54912,0,77,47,68,96,33,35,72
54915,0,77,47,68,97,33,35,73
54918,0,77,47,68,97,33,35,73
54922,0,77,47,68,95,33,35,69
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54928,0,77,47,68,96,33,35,71
54931,0,77,47,68,96,33,35,71
54934,0,77,47,68,95,33,35,71
54937,0,77,47,68,95,33,35,72
54940,0,76,48,68,97,33,35,70
54943,0,77,48,68,97,33,35,71
54946,0,77,48,68,97,33,35,73
54949,0,78,48,68,97,33,35,73
54952,0,78,48,69,97,33,35,73
54955,0,78,48,69,98,33,35,73
54958,0,78,48,69,98,33,36,73
54961,0,78,48,69,98,33,36,72
54964,0,78,48,69,98,33,36,73
54967,0,77,48,69,98,33,36,74
54970,0,77,48,69,98,33,36,74
54973,0,77,48,69,99,33,36,75
54977,0,77,48,70,98,33,36,73
54980,0,77,48,70,98,33,36,75
54983,0,78,48,70,98,33,36,73
54986,0,77,48,70,99,33,36,75
54989,0,77,48,70,99,33,36,72
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55013,0,78,48,70,100,33,36,75
55016,0,78,48,70,100,33,36,76
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55023,0,77,48,71,100,34,36,75
55025,0,78,48,71,100,34,36,75
55029,0,78,48,71,101,34,36,76
55032,0,77,48,71,101,34,36,77
55035,0,80,48,71,101,34,36,76
55038,0,80,48,71,101,34,36,77
55041,0,74,48,71,96,34,36,60
55044,0,72,48,70,85,34,36,65
55047,0,72,48,68,83,34,36,52
55050,0,72,48,68,74,34,36,50
55053,0,72,48,66,78,34,36,42
55056,0,71,48,65,91,34,36,69
55059,0,71,48,65,94,34,36,72
55062,0,71,48,66,95,34,36,72
55065,0,71,48,67,96,34,36,73
55069,0,71,48,68,97,34,36,74
55072,0,71,48,68,97,34,36,74
55075,0,71,48,68,98,34,36,74
55078,0,71,48,68,97,34,36,74
55081,0,74,48,69,90,34,36,62
55084,0,77,48,68,91,34,36,61
55087,0,80,48,68,92,34,36,64
55090,0,80,48,68,92,34,36,64
55093,0,73,48,68,91,34,36,48
55096,0,71,48,67,77,34,36,42
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55102,0,71,48,64,90,34,36,69
55105,0,71,48,65,88,34,36,68
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55148,0,82,48,66,90,34,36,61
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Not too sure what temp3 corresponds to but it gets up over 100'C, so it's certainly cooking in there.

Agent_24
16-10-2011, 03:57 PM
Without some more knowledge of which sensor "Temp3" is - what it should be, and if it's accurate you can't really say much, unfortunately. Speedfan also often accesses sensors which are not connected or are not calibrated and which are completely wrong.

On one of my machines I get a "Temp2" which is constantly at -105 (Yes, negative!) Degrees.


Your Core (CPU) temperature does apparently get over 80 degrees, though - which seems rather high.

Is the CPU heatsink on tightly\correctly? Did you use fresh thermal paste\pad? Did you apply too much or too little?

mookster1
16-10-2011, 04:57 PM
I didn't build the system so I'm not entirely sure as to how much paste was used on the heatsink, but I'm now test running it with a resource-intensive game to see if it'll make the computer decide to curl its toes. As for temp3 this corresponds to my ending of a mission in Flight Simulator X because I crashed my FA18 Hornet and needed to start again, so I think it should be calibrated. As for gpu1 that is the integrated graphics, which are currently not in use.

Netsukeninja
16-10-2011, 06:14 PM
Yeah that computer is getting toasty, open up the case and give it a clean out.

mookster1
17-10-2011, 11:15 AM
I now feel like an idiot because I discovered something really stoopid (and blindingly obvious!) that may just be causing the problem. The CPU has a plastic duct that goes to the outside case, but the outside case is jammed up against under a computer desk! I've since moved the case to under the desk and am running something resource-intensive to see if the system attempts to catch itself on fire again.

PENTIUM
17-10-2011, 05:57 PM
Yeh, right. I see that from time to time on call-outs!

dugimodo
18-10-2011, 12:19 PM
Rather than log temps during a game, which is actually a pretty good real world test, you could run prime 95 and watch the temps yourself with realtemp or speedfan to prove the CPU. Although thermal shutdown occurs somwhere in the 90-100 degrees range I'm uncomfortable with any temps above 80 myself. Your PC will unceremoniously turn off if the CPU overheats so that could be it.

For the GPU furmark does a good stress test and graphs the temps as it goes. Both of these stress the components more than any normal use so will give you a worst case scenario.

Wether it proves to be the temperature or the PSU causing it most people I see posting on here, including myself, would still reccommend replacing the PSU with a quality one.

If you decide to take the heatsink off the CPU to check the paste make sure you have some new thermal paste available beforehand, clean both surfaces thoroughly with some isopropyl alcohol and a lint free cloth or paper towl. Do not touch the surfaces or the paste with your fingers, apply a small bead of paste to the centre of the CPU, attaching the heatsink will spread it sufficiently and usually works better than spreading it yourself. You can find guides on you tube, but ignore any that show the paste being spread, it has been shown this is not the best way.

mookster1
18-10-2011, 03:28 PM
Okay, I've done some more gaming and testing and the temperatures are far more manageable. Unlike when the case was jammed had up against the desk the temperature initially rises to about 60'C and stays there but over time rises to around 80'C at its worst. The computer hasn't spontaneously shut down since I moved the tower case so that may just have been the problem. The manual for my graphics card suggests a PSU with max power rating of at least 450W so it may cause issues in future and will probably be replaced. So yeah; I'll do yet more testing and see if moving the case solved the problem. Thanks for your help, guys! :thanks

mookster1
23-10-2011, 08:27 PM
Another update (long delay, sorry; been a bit busy lately): temp3 corresponds to the SYSTEM (not CPU) temperature on the motherboard, which (now that I have the part number) is Gigabyte GA-M61SME-S2. The CPU temperature problem no longer rises above 55-60'C, but temp3, which corresponds to the SYSTEM temperature, is frequently getting over 80'C. There was no case fan mounted so I mounted one (turns out its about as noisy as a hairdryer so it's not a permanent solution by any means) on the back of the case and decreased temp3 to a respectable 50-55'C. However, the way the graphics card goes in my slot seems to try and defy physics; the fins on the heatsink are mounted so they're pointing downwards and heat is rising into the card. The graphics card has passive cooling so I mounted a smaller fan below the graphics card on a makeshift stand. However while this keeps the GPU cool-ish (I've heard they normally run quite hot, in the order of the high 70's in use) the system temperature is suffering for it as there is only one socket on the mobo for a fan. What I would like to know is what on the motherboard is corresponding to temp3 (i.e. where the sensor is on the board so I know what's cooking) or how I would go about finding out. In terms of the one-extra-fan-only problem I was thinking of wiring the two fans in parallel (one of them doesn't have a speed output so obviously I'll just have the speed output of one going to the mobo, and the speed of the system fan is unable to be controlled via the BIOS.)

Agent_24
23-10-2011, 11:02 PM
What I would like to know is what on the motherboard is corresponding to temp3 (i.e. where the sensor is on the board so I know what's cooking) or how I would go about finding out. In terms of the one-extra-fan-only problem I was thinking of wiring the two fans in parallel (one of them doesn't have a speed output so obviously I'll just have the speed output of one going to the mobo, and the speed of the system fan is unable to be controlled via the BIOS.)

Probably northbridge for system temp

Don't run too many fans off a motherboard fan header, they aren't really designed for more than one each. Better to tap directly from the PSU itself with an adapter.

pctek
24-10-2011, 07:07 AM
However, the way the graphics card goes in my slot seems to try and defy physics; the fins on the heatsink are mounted so they're pointing downwards and heat is rising into the card. The graphics card has passive cooling
Yes, and they put pictures on that side too - why, when you mount it you don't see it, always thought they should have been installed the other way up...................passive cooling?? Terrible idea for GPUs.

dugimodo
24-10-2011, 07:22 AM
+1 for using an adapter for the second fan, also bear in mind that a case fan also helps the GPU by uncreasing airflow.

You can get quiet fans, obviously they tend to move less air but that's the trade off. What size fans does the case allow? an 8cm fan will always be noisy to shift a decent amount of air but 12cm ones can do the same airflow with almost no noise.
Unfortunately if you can't solve it to your satisfaction with that case the only options are to either mod it for better airflow or get a better case, most modern cases have a 12cm intake and 12cm exhaust fan by default. Mine currently has 3 12cm intakes + 1 12cm rear and 1 14cm top exhaust fans. It's very cool inside the case but not especially quiet :)

Agent_24
24-10-2011, 01:02 PM
Yes, and they put pictures on that side too - why, when you mount it you don't see it, always thought they should have been installed the other way up...................passive cooling?? Terrible idea for GPUs.

So buy one of those cases that puts the motherboard up-side down... But in any case who cares what's on the graphics card? My last one had some sort of transsexual fairy\elf on the box but I don't care, what's displayed on the screen is more important to me :lol: