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ianhnz
19-08-2011, 10:02 AM
Hi all. thumbs:
I have Windows XP running on two computers.
Desktop is a 2.3 GHz system with 1 GB (Non shared ram) , other is laptop, about same system speed but only 512 shared ram.
Both computer are quite slow, either on line or not.
Is there any way of stripping them down, to run faster?
Desktop can't take any more ram and can't afford to buy desktops.
:thanks:

wainuitech
19-08-2011, 10:15 AM
Click start/ Run , type in msconfig In the startup tab disable any programs not required. Also could need a damn good clean out.

Over time windows get bogged down with crap, corrupted files etc which will cause slowness. Crap programs that hog memory like Nortons will slow thing down.

Sometimes there is nothing you can do to speed it up any more other than save all the data, wipe the drive do a fresh install and put the data / programs back. That alone will increase speed :)

1101
19-08-2011, 10:38 AM
how slow is slow ?? (seriously) what programs are running slow
are you running Norton ?? do you have a multifunction printer
are you sharing files on a local network ??

ignoring startup times...
how slow to start word , in seconds
how slow to start IE?? (start IE, not load webpages)

go contol alt del , click task manager, count how many processes are running & let us know, also look & see if any are using alot of 'cpu' in task manger
Download & run malwarebytes, to check for malware

They may also be stuck in CPU power save mode: goto control panel,system-general & see what speed they are actually running at

linw
19-08-2011, 10:59 AM
Like WT says, check the startups. In my experience most 'slow' systems can be sped up remarkably by stopping lots of startups (not unusual to stop 8-10).

Many systems even come crippled from the manufacturer. You can make these run the best they have ever run!

ianhnz
19-08-2011, 11:15 AM
how slow is slow ?? (seriously) what programs are running slow
are you running Norton ?? do you have a multifunction printer
are you sharing files on a local network ??

ignoring startup times...
how slow to start word , in seconds
how slow to start IE?? (start IE, not load webpages)

go contol alt del , click task manager, count how many processes are running & let us know, also look & see if any are using alot of 'cpu' in task manger
Download & run malwarebytes, to check for malware

They may also be stuck in CPU power save mode: goto control panel,system-general & see what speed they are actually running
at
Anything up to 30 sec to a min to start a program
Done ;alwarebytes and no thing
CPU process 0, pf usdage 749
30 processes, mostly windows

ianhnz
19-08-2011, 11:16 AM
Like WT says, check the startups. In my experience most 'slow' systems can be sped up remarkably by stopping lots of startups (not unusual to stop 8-10).

Many systems even come crippled from the manufacturer. You can make these run the best they have ever run!

Cleaned out all but important stuff in start up

ianhnz
19-08-2011, 11:17 AM
Click start/ Run , type in msconfig In the startup tab disable any programs not required. Also could need a damn good clean out.

Over time windows get bogged down with crap, corrupted files etc which will cause slowness. Crap programs that hog memory like Nortons will slow thing down.

Sometimes there is nothing you can do to speed it up any more other than save all the data, wipe the drive do a fresh install and put the data / programs back. That alone will increase speed :)
Inside last month both computers have had a format recover, desk top by professional Microsoft certified tech.

Speedy Gonzales
19-08-2011, 11:17 AM
Get teamviewer and I can see whats in startup...Defragging the hdd may help too

ianhnz
19-08-2011, 11:20 AM
Get teamviewer and I can see whats in startup...Defragging the hdd may help too
wHATS TEAMVIEWER? bEEN DEFRAGED

Speedy Gonzales
19-08-2011, 11:26 AM
This (http://teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx)

1101
19-08-2011, 11:42 AM
seems rather unusual that both are so slow.

try , as a diag test

start-run-msconfig
disable ALL startup items, services -tick hide MS, then disable all the NON MS services
(they can all be restarted/turned on after testing)
restart & see how it runs then.

Speedy Gonzales
19-08-2011, 11:56 AM
Dont disable services under msconfig. If you want to disable any, disable them under services

pctek
19-08-2011, 02:41 PM
Over time windows get bogged down with crap, corrupted files etc which will cause slowness. Crap programs that hog memory like Nortons will slow thing down.

Sometimes there is nothing you can do to speed it up any more other than save all the data, wipe the drive do a fresh install and put the data / programs back. That alone will increase speed :)

Yes.

If the usual cleanups don't help much, wipe it and start over.

wainuitech
19-08-2011, 05:33 PM
Inside last month both computers have had a format recover, desk top by professional Microsoft certified tech. Big deal :rolleyes: I've seen some people all the quals in the world, and while they can do things on paper actual real life they are hopeless.

It was a month ago you mention ??


If the installs were from factory recovery CD's or partitions all the OEM junk would be loaded back.

I never use factory recoveries, I do it from scratch that way no "extra" rubbish from the OEM (HP, Dell) are added, and there is a noticeable difference in speed.

Was it OK then or was it bad right after this so called "tech" fixed it -- if it was bad after the fix, then its obviously not fixed correctly ??

It takes a few seconds for a XP computer to be change from running good to a bucket of sh1t :D if something goes wrong, or some corruption occurs.

EDITED: Just courious, clcik start /run type in eventvwr go to the system logs, look and see if there are a whole bunch of errors saying "side-by-side"

If there are, then that will slow down windows (xp) and the fix is very simple as well.

What AV is on these ????

PPp
19-08-2011, 09:58 PM
Go here to checkup on your startup programs:http://www.techspot.com/startup/ and go here http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml for a tiny machine coded program in your control panel to give you full control of startups. Disable MSOffice startup & indexing disable Adobe PDF reader startup (common)

PPp
19-08-2011, 10:11 PM
Have a look here http://www.blackviper.com/2008/05/19/black-vipers-windows-xp-x86-32-bit-service-pack-3-service-configurations/ for some services advice.

ianhnz
20-08-2011, 08:58 AM
Big deal :rolleyes: I've seen some people all the quals in the world, and while they can do things on paper actual real life they are hopeless.

It was a month ago you mention ??


If the installs were from factory recovery CD's or partitions all the OEM junk would be loaded back.

I never use factory recoveries, I do it from scratch that way no "extra" rubbish from the OEM (HP, Dell) are added, and there is a noticeable difference in speed.

Was it OK then or was it bad right after this so called "tech" fixed it -- if it was bad after the fix, then its obviously not fixed correctly ??

It takes a few seconds for a XP computer to be change from running good to a bucket of sh1t :D if something goes wrong, or some corruption occurs.

EDITED: Just courious, clcik start /run type in eventvwr go to the system logs, look and see if there are a whole bunch of errors saying "side-by-side"

If there are, then that will slow down windows (xp) and the fix is very simple as well.

What AV is on these ????

There are only 5 enteris and they don't say much... Both systems have Comodo firewall, latest and MSE
:banana

ianhnz
20-08-2011, 09:02 AM
Thanks guys. Sorry got called away, yesterday. Will have a good look through and report back, latter. Ian

PPp
20-08-2011, 10:01 AM
Found this site http://www.grownups.co.nz/read/lifestyle/technology/speed-up-slow-computer while Googling.

ianhnz
20-08-2011, 10:39 AM
Found this site http://www.grownups.co.nz/read/lifestyle/technology/speed-up-slow-computer while Googling.

Disable file indexing. Done that all 5 drives. Zap the Windows Pre-fetch folder every week every day. Optimise Display Settings, yep. Remove the Desktop Picture tried that, makes no difference. Speedup Folder Browsing ,yep. Rest Iíll try. :thanks for this.

wainuitech
20-08-2011, 11:15 AM
There is one thing to keep in mind as well, last year MS brought out some updates that really hit the performance of Windows XP, it has brought a lot of PC's to a crawl, slower performance. Generally if the PC is not to flash in power it is more noticeable.

You would find that if a fresh install was done,(standard XP OEM CD) without using recovery CD's or partitions from the manufacture, with no updates it would really fly.

Throw in a few programs, Comodo (will slow it down) as well as MSSE, Windows updates and you will notice the performance drop.