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Question
29-07-2011, 09:09 PM
So we just got put on a 10gb data cap with no warning (not sure whether its legal for them to do that...gotta check the contract)...im using a freeware bandwidth monitor. Apparently i can use around 200 mb of downloaded data every day, and this is without actually downloading anything specific(well except from the auto virus and windows updates).

So basically 200mb or so of data from browsing web pages only...seems a little high to me. Any idea on tracking wheres most of that data coming from?

GameJunkie
29-07-2011, 09:14 PM
who's your ISP??

what was your data cap before the 10GB cap?

pctek
29-07-2011, 09:52 PM
200mb isn't much at all.

Depends on the browsing too, this site for instance, rather a minimum of pics and video. Youtube on the other hand, could eat data faster depending how many you sit and watch.


And 200 a day? 200mb x 30 days (most caps are monthly), doesn't add up to 10GB.

ISPs can limit your data as they choose. Or not. So yeah legal.

Question
29-07-2011, 10:20 PM
Im staying at student accomodation. When we arrived nobody told us about a cap at all until management suddenly started telling us we had a cap, but refused to specify exactly how much or give us a way to track our usage. They backed down after all the resident got together and signed a petition to protest about it, and vaugely said that unless we were doing mass torrenting/downloading, we didnt have anything to worry.

This continued for several months until recently when some IT guys came down and shut off internet access to like half the flats here with no warning and management suddnely said we had a 10gb cap per month.

That 200mb figure doesnt factor in occasional downloads, viewing of university material or large program updates though.

The Error Guy
29-07-2011, 11:42 PM
Just out of interest is that 10gb per person or per flat?

If multiple people are using the same 10gb cap you could (depending on how internet is distributed) flash gargoyle or DD-WRT to a router and assign a data cap to each device or over all. That way you can see which one of you (or which device) is using too much data.

Alternatively you could could set up a proxying PC to keep track of usage and even run squid to chache. This is probably a bit extreme though

Snorkbox
29-07-2011, 11:49 PM
Try TUC. http://www.tuc.co.nz/

It wont tell you what but it will tell you how much.

Question
29-07-2011, 11:55 PM
Try TUC. http://www.tuc.co.nz/

It wont tell you what but it will tell you how much.

Well im already using something similar to track my usage.

Also its 10gb per person, but i dont think they have any way to track per person usage(at least, so far).

GameJunkie
30-07-2011, 12:02 AM
even 10GB a person, i wouldn't complain

decibel
30-07-2011, 05:56 PM
Unfortunately TUC won't help in your situation, it will only tell the account-holder the total download and that isn't you.

My guess is the manager has installed Gargoyle or something similar as the Error Guy suggested in post #5 and he is going to restrict you individually.

This no doubt has been brought about because one (or more) of your fellow students has killed the hen that laid the golden eggs.

gary67
31-07-2011, 02:08 PM
Need something here I blew the cap on Friday lucky SWMBO and the kid are away until tonight and the cap gets reset tonight, damn pain being on slowload for 2 days though

Paul.Cov
31-07-2011, 06:43 PM
I suspect their only way to track users is via the network hardwares MAC address.
If you switched your network plug over to a different adapter, or plugged in a different computer you might find another 10GB available to you... maybe.

On the other hand, if you all have different logins to the network, then you might be up the creek.

Question
31-07-2011, 07:50 PM
So anyone has any ideas on how to reduce the data usage? Again thats without any specific downloads.

pctek
01-08-2011, 09:10 AM
So anyone has any ideas on how to reduce the data usage? Again thats without any specific downloads.
Stop downloading stuff.

I have a 10GB cap. I use about 3Gb a month.
What are you doing on the net?

inphinity
01-08-2011, 09:26 AM
I suspect their only way to track users is via the network hardwares MAC address.

I'd have expected them to be tracking it by which network port you're plugged into.

dugimodo
01-08-2011, 11:02 AM
So anyone has any ideas on how to reduce the data usage? Again thats without any specific downloads.

Turn off auto updates for windows and any software you use and only do it manually as required.
Disconnect the network cable whenever you don't need to use the net. Use firefox with addblocker.
Turn off flash
Set your browser not to display images automatically.
Go to the library and use books.
Use a web based E-mail program.
Wait till your flatmates are asleep and use their PC.
Get a laptop and go find a free wireless hotspot.

Question
02-08-2011, 01:33 AM
Stop downloading stuff.

I have a 10GB cap. I use about 3Gb a month.
What are you doing on the net?

I guess you dont use the internet for much other than browsing this forum or checking your mail then.

Anything that involves viewing multiple images on the net would probably made you exceed that cap really fast. Could be anything ranging from viewing an online publication, to browsing for high resolution wall papers or a forum where people often post images such as artwork or drawings.

Want to view an occasional youtube clip or video on a news site? Screwed.

Even using google maps to find the route directions to a local hospital took a surprising large amount of bandwidth.

pctek
02-08-2011, 09:06 AM
I guess you dont use the internet for much other than browsing this forum or checking your mail then.

Anything that involves viewing multiple images on the net would probably made you exceed that cap really fast.
Actually I do.
What I don't do is download music or movies. I don't download games either much, have done but mostly I buy the disc.

I do watch youtube stuff, watched the new zombie thing on TVNZ online the other day as I missed it on TV.

I view a few sites with multiple pics.

I use the maps frequently.

The only thing I've seen eat data like crazy is downloading stuff like games and movies and playing online games.

Question
02-08-2011, 09:26 PM
Im not downloading games, movies or playing any online games so im confused why the bandwidth monitor is showing ~200mb per day....

zqwerty
02-08-2011, 10:24 PM
Post a HiJackThis log here

Question
03-08-2011, 12:29 AM
Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.4
Scan saved at 11:24:27 PM, on 2/8/2011
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Chilling_Silence
03-08-2011, 09:06 AM
I guess you dont use the internet for much other than browsing this forum or checking your mail then.

Anything that involves viewing multiple images on the net would probably made you exceed that cap really fast. Could be anything ranging from viewing an online publication, to browsing for high resolution wall papers or a forum where people often post images such as artwork or drawings.

Want to view an occasional youtube clip or video on a news site? Screwed.

Even using google maps to find the route directions to a local hospital took a surprising large amount of bandwidth.
The only thing that you've mentioned that will chew through your data will be the video. Depending on the quality of the video it could be 10MB for a 5 min video, it could be 100MB.
An average wallpaper (Even at full-HD resolutions) is still probably somewhere around 250 -> 400KB, depending on what sort of compression / file-type, so you can still go through 1,000 of them and not even hit half a gig.

Online gaming generally does piss all. 20MB an hour is a *very* safe bet, excluding patches, unless you're hosting the game, or playing Minecrafting.

It sounds like there's something you're omitting about your online travels.

That, or your mates are being included in your "cap" and they're doing pr0n at night.

zqwerty
03-08-2011, 10:35 AM
Skype uses quite a bit, about 45MB/hour, audio only.

Question
03-08-2011, 01:28 PM
Its supposedly 10gb per person, although i dont think they have any way to track per person usage at the moment.

I guess people on forums, etc dont always use the best compression methods...its not uncommon for me to see people posting 1mb+ images(that i dont go and expand). Part of it is also that i browse sites where people post images fairly frequently, although most of the ones that load are thumbnailed versions.

Chilling_Silence
03-08-2011, 02:17 PM
Well then you've just solved your issue, adjust your browsing habits.

I'd also find out exactly how they're policing that 10GB per-person too. By MAC address, by port-on-the-wall...

Question
04-08-2011, 06:55 PM
So theres nothing in the hijack this log?